Kiffin to Ole Miss

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JMSqb11 said:
Yup. If he is going 7-5 / 8-4 and constantly winning the Egg Bowl, he will be royalty there.
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That's really all it'll take at Ole Miss. It's historically a place coaches go to die. A look at their home run hires the last 25 years:

Tubberville: 25-20

Cutcliffe: 44-29

Ed O: 10-25

Nutt: 18-26

Freeze 39-25

Yeah, I think Lane can probably hang onto a job there for a while. They last won the conference in 1963
 
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Gandalf said:
I dont think anyone can declare him the next Saban or Swinney any more than we can declare Pruitt so at this point. What we can say is that Kiffin CAN coach and recruit some offense and he knows what it takes to be HC. With no handcuffs like he had at USC, no immediate marriage implosion, etc, Kiffin will have a real opportunity to put his mark on things.

People forget that Kiffin is only 44 and was (and still is) a very young HC. I suspect a lot of his assinine behavior has mellowed somewhat as the cockiness of youth got knocked out of him (like it does to us all eventually). Hopefully for OM, the swagger has matured a bit but not lost its power.

He is likely to do reasonably well at OMiss if they give him time and I suspect if he can bring Briles and a solid D coordinator then they will get dangerous in a few years. Between Ogeron at LSU, now Pittman at Arkansas, Gus at the Barn and of course Saban at Alabubba, the West is becoming as much of a murderers row as it has ever been. I have to think that Kiffin gives OMiss a better chance of recruiting in a very loaded SECW better than most anyone else that they could reasonably attract.
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I flipped the TV channel to the SEC network yesterday and Finebaum had Lane doing an interview. Lane looked puffy in the face liked he'd gained some weight or his body was retaining fluid. He looked tired too which is reasonable. He sounded good however and definitely knows the ropes. Reading between the lines, I think Lane is grateful and has learned from his past and it's behind him as far as he's concerned. I don't view him as cocky, publicity seeking, immature,etc....Of course with the SEC west being as competitive as it is, I wouldn't expect an overnight turnaround, but in time, I think he'll have OM playing some very competitive ball. jmho
 
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Kiffin never stays in one place long enough to really know how good he is as head coach, but I do see one pattern. His teams rarely meet expectations. They either exceed expectations or fall woefully short. At USC, he went 8-5, 10-2, 7-6, and finally 3-2 before USC had enough. At Florida Atlantic, he went 11-3, 5-7, and 10-3. I doubt that he will be at Ole Miss very long. I believe that the most likely scenario is that he exceeds expectations at Ole Miss and moves on to greener pastures in a couple years. The next school will eventually fire him for failing to meet expectations.
 
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Jaws said:
Eric Berry, Janzen Jackson, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Rico McCoy, Denarius Moore, Gerald Jones, Chris Walker and make fun of Crompton all you want but he had 28 TD’s that year and just shy of 3,000 yards passing. Tennessee has had less talented teams than that bunch.

And regarding “why hasn’t anyone done it before at FAU?” Well, they’ve all been no-name scrubs. I’d give you a million guesses at who coached FAU before Kiffin and unless he’s related to you, you’d never guess Charlie Partridge. Before Partridge, some guy named Brian Wright and before that, the vaunted Carl Pelini! So I guess I was wrong, I failed to heap massive praise on Kiffin for doing a slightly better job that his predecessors Partridge and Pelini. 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻
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Let's not forget that Howard Schellenberger brought that program into existence with an off-campus stadium to start. Your list of coaches is the entire existence of FAU football. It's not a terribly long existence. The only real success they have ever had is under Kiffin.
 
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Kiifin’s a$$ must be getting sore from the media kissing it. Seems like every time I check ESPN or Twitter there is another article about him, him being greeted at the tarmac, how much he’s matured, how he’ll be fun to have back in the SEC...etc etc. you’d think he was the only head coach recently hired and he was taking over Alabama instead of Ol Miss.
I get it. They are super excited to have a controversial figure like Kiffin who will undoubtedly stir up trouble like he did when he was coaching at Tennessee. But please, maybe wipe the drool off your mouth a little bit, it’s embarrassing!
 
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Jaws said:
Eric Berry, Janzen Jackson, Montario Hardesty, Bryce Brown, Rico McCoy, Denarius Moore, Gerald Jones, Chris Walker and make fun of Crompton all you want but he had 28 TD’s that year and just shy of 3,000 yards passing. Tennessee has had less talented teams than that bunch.

And regarding “why hasn’t anyone done it before at FAU?” Well, they’ve all been no-name scrubs. I’d give you a million guesses at who coached FAU before Kiffin and unless he’s related to you, you’d never guess Charlie Partridge. Before Partridge, some guy named Brian Wright and before that, the vaunted Carl Pelini! So I guess I was wrong, I failed to heap massive praise on Kiffin for doing a slightly better job that his predecessors Partridge and Pelini. 👏🏻 👏🏻👏🏻
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Kiffin's time at FAU was not slight better than the others..... Guy did more in 3 years than the program did in the 8 previous years. Sure its the CUSA and FAU, but I don't see people diminishing Bill Clark in the same tone people are with Kiffin in regards to his time at UAB.
 
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MurphyVol said:
That's really all it'll take at Ole Miss. It's historically a place coaches go to die. A look at their home run hires the last 25 years:

Tubberville: 25-20

Cutcliffe: 44-29

Ed O: 10-25

Nutt: 18-26

Freeze 39-25

Yeah, I think Lane can probably hang onto a job there for a while. They last won the conference in 1963
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I was always kind of surprised they fired Cut that quickly. He didn't have a single losing season until the year they fired him, and he had just lost Eli to the NFL. He had not only a winning record overall but a winning record in the SEC. Missed out on playing for the SEC title in 2003 because of a tiebreaker with LSU - not even Freeze got that close.
 
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landscapingvol said:
It's Kiffin's offense, that hire is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and he has been an OC for exactly one year.
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One year as an OC...yep but he is only a phone call away from Art and Kendal. That offense, much like Mike Leach's, is a game changer. You don't need 5* talent to run it.

Unless you have forgotten, Saban petitioned the NCAA for rule changes to slow those offenses down. Now he is running an RPO offense without hunh. Nick has seen the light... defense no longer wins champships. Ask Clemson (and soon to be LSU IMO).
 
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BUBear said:
One year as an OC...yep but he is only a phone call away from Art and Kendal. That offense, much like Mike Leach's, is a game changer. You don't need 5* talent to run it.

Unless you have forgotten, Saban petitioned the NCAA for rule changes to slow those offenses down. Now he is running an RPO offense without hunh. Nick has seen the light... defense no longer wins champships. Ask Clemson (and soon to be LSU IMO).
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How many championships have Leach and Briles won?
 
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Nerwen Aldarion said:
Kiifin’s a$$ must be getting sore from the media kissing it. Seems like every time I check ESPN or Twitter there is another article about him, him being greeted at the tarmac, how much he’s matured, how he’ll be fun to have back in the SEC...etc etc. you’d think he was the only head coach recently hired and he was taking over Alabama instead of Ol Miss.
I get it. They are super excited to have a controversial figure like Kiffin who will undoubtedly stir up trouble like he did when he was coaching at Tennessee. But please, maybe wipe the drool off your mouth a little bit, it’s embarrassing!
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I see literally one article about him from Chris Low, and basically everything you mention is in that one article. Seems like you took the time to read it in-depth and then came here to complain about how you can’t avoid it lol
 
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NashVol11 said:
How many championships have Leach and Briles won?
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They never had the talent that Kiffin can get ($$$) at Ole Miss.

How many champships does Clemson have (Chad Morris installed that offense). Stoops won a championship with the offense that Leach installed at Oklahoma.
 
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BUBear said:
How many champships does Georgia have have with 5* talent, ball control offense and Top 10 defenses?
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They’re certainly several steps up as contenders from schools like Texas Tech, Baylor and Washington State.

It’s funny to see you try to argue that Art Briles’ offense is the key to win championships when he never even made a playoff with it. Probably more accurate to say it’s a method for Bryce Pettys and Graham Harrells to rack up video game numbers and then get exposed in the NFL
 
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FSU won with a decidedly pro-style offense, OSU had Zeke Elliott running all over people, Bama built the greatest dynasty arguably in CFB history largely on NFL RBs and great defenses, but Baylor’s gimmicky junk offense is how you win. OK
 
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BUBear said:
They never had the talent that Kiffin can get ($$$) at Ole Miss.

How many champships does Clemson have (Chad Morris installed that offense). Stoops won a championship with the offense that Leach installed at Oklahoma.
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Oklahoma had the #7 defense in the country and won the title game by a score of 13-2. Clemson had the #1 defense in the nation last year. Good examples
 
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NashVol11 said:
FSU won with a decidedly pro-style offense, OSU had Zeke Elliott running all over people, Bama built the greatest dynasty arguably in CFB history largely on NFL RBs and great defenses, but Baylor’s gimmicky junk offense is how you win. OK
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How many years ago was that??? Why has Saban gone away from that offense? Why has Ohio St moved away from that offense? Why the NFL going more and more toward RPO offense?
 
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BUBear said:
How many years ago was that??? Why has Saban gone away from that? Why is the NFL going more and more toward it?
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Oh right, the NFL and its 13-3 Super Bowl and its current takeover by the most prolific rushing attack in history is definitely proof that five-wide spread passing offenses throwing 60 times a game are the key to success
 
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sona said:
Would having to endure that relentlessly stupid Hotty Toddy chant be sufficiently offset by the extreme coed talent at Ole Miss?
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If can handle the relentlessly stupid USCe "chicken call," I can handle Hotty Toddy
 
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