killer did not listen to talk radio.

#26
#26
DinkinFlicka said:
Because it's awfully convenient for a "friend" to come forth and defend the right (or the left, had the situation been switched around) when they're under fire from many sides. THAT is why I'm so dismissive.

Why would this friend even take the time and effort to make this statement? Is he a staunch conservative who would defend right wing media instead of simply pleading that his friend was insane?

There are too many fitting pieces here.
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he's probably a right wing staffer, i bet he's a gold invester too. keep reaching. LOL
 
#29
#29
DinkinFlicka said:
Yeah, because I'm clearly a Democrat. If you can give me three tell-tale signs of my stances on any policy that would indicate that I'm a pure liberal, I'll gladly shut up.

I am accusing you of BS. Once again, you're using the shooting to bolster the integrity of your respective political party as well as a slight to an opposing ideology. While I understand this may be a wee bit difficult for you to read, you need to understand that this thread is entirely based on you taking advantage of a horrible tragedy.
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Now that the tide has turned and most people have seen through all the crap the libs have been dishing out since Saturday, you're turning tail. Very brave sir, VERY.
 
#30
#30
I am not saying that talk radio or the TP is to blame in the sense that they actually caused this guy to do this. Even if they said "Go shoot her" that would not be the cause.

I am saying the talk radio and the TP have made it acceptable to speak in terms of violence, taking the law into your own hands, etc. Now, almost nobody would listen to that and act on it. But I do think that the atmosphere created by that is toxic and plays a role in this kind of thing.

I mean, he killed a Dem, at a rally, who just went up against a TPer, the shooter is rabid anti-government and Treasury and buys into conspiracy theories. Other than voting against Pelosi, it sure as heck seems like she is the closest person to this loon that represents all of the wackadoodle conspiracy nonsense spewed by Beck, Palin, and the TP.

Causation? No.

Role? Yes.
 
#31
#31
DinkinFlicka said:
Why would you say that? I hate that oxy-popping fatboy as much as the next sensible guy, but I don't think he's capable of bringing about murderous intent in even the craziest of kooks.
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It must be cool to be able to hate and not be labeled a hater.
 
#32
#32
azVolFan said:
Now that the tide has turned and most people have seen through all the crap the libs have been dishing out since Saturday, you're turning tail. Very brave sir, VERY.
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Turning tail from what? If you try and find me amongst that accusatory mess that's been spewing since Saturday, you'll surely fail.

Like I said, I never bought into jack.
 
#34
#34
Are we talking about thought crimes, here? Guilt by creating an "atmosphere of violence" through language?

Isn't this like blaming crime on movies and tv?
 
#35
#35
lawgator1 said:
I am not saying that talk radio or the TP is to blame in the sense that they actually caused this guy to do this. Even if they said "Go shoot her" that would not be the cause.

I am saying the talk radio and the TP have made it acceptable to speak in terms of violence, taking the law into your own hands, etc. Now, almost nobody would listen to that and act on it. But I do think that the atmosphere created by that is toxic and plays a role in this kind of thing.

I mean, he killed a Dem, at a rally, who just went up against a TPer, the shooter is rabid anti-government and Treasury and buys into conspiracy theories. Other than voting against Pelosi, it sure as heck seems like she is the closest person to this loon that represents all of the wackadoodle conspiracy nonsense spewed by Beck, Palin, and the TP.

Causation? No.

Role? Yes.
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I never read your other threads concerning this, but I know that I agree with every bit of this post.
 
#38
#38
lawgator1 said:
I am not saying that talk radio or the TP is to blame in the sense that they actually caused this guy to do this. Even if they said "Go shoot her" that would not be the cause.

I am saying the talk radio and the TP have made it acceptable to speak in terms of violence, taking the law into your own hands, etc. Now, almost nobody would listen to that and act on it. But I do think that the atmosphere created by that is toxic and plays a role in this kind of thing.

I mean, he killed a Dem, at a rally, who just went up against a TPer, the shooter is rabid anti-government and Treasury and buys into conspiracy theories. Other than voting against Pelosi, it sure as heck seems like she is the closest person to this loon that represents all of the wackadoodle conspiracy nonsense spewed by Beck, Palin, and the TP.

Causation? No.

Role? Yes.
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You have no evidence whatsoever to back up that outlandish statement. The venomous hate spewing from the left is incredible. The only way you don't see it is because you agree with it yourself and are therefore a hater.
 
#39
#39
DinkinFlicka said:
Muggings/Rape/Carjackings =/= Specifically targeted shootings.
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why? he was obsessed with the lady and the perceived slight he gave her. how is this any different than a guy killing his cheating gf? besides him inventing a relationship in his mind that is.
 
#41
#41
lawgator1 said:
I am not saying that talk radio or the TP is to blame in the sense that they actually caused this guy to do this. Even if they said "Go shoot her" that would not be the cause.

I am saying the talk radio and the TP have made it acceptable to speak in terms of violence, taking the law into your own hands, etc. Now, almost nobody would listen to that and act on it. But I do think that the atmosphere created by that is toxic and plays a role in this kind of thing.

I mean, he killed a Dem, at a rally, who just went up against a TPer, the shooter is rabid anti-government and Treasury and buys into conspiracy theories. Other than voting against Pelosi, it sure as heck seems like she is the closest person to this loon that represents all of the wackadoodle conspiracy nonsense spewed by Beck, Palin, and the TP.

Causation? No.

Role? Yes.
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i see. so if a drunk driver killed the lady would palin have a role in her death?
 
#42
#42
lawgator1 said:
I am not saying that talk radio or the TP is to blame in the sense that they actually caused this guy to do this. Even if they said "Go shoot her" that would not be the cause.

I am saying the talk radio and the TP have made it acceptable to speak in terms of violence, taking the law into your own hands, etc. Now, almost nobody would listen to that and act on it. But I do think that the atmosphere created by that is toxic and plays a role in this kind of thing.

I mean, he killed a Dem, at a rally, who just went up against a TPer, the shooter is rabid anti-government and Treasury and buys into conspiracy theories. Other than voting against Pelosi, it sure as heck seems like she is the closest person to this loon that represents all of the wackadoodle conspiracy nonsense spewed by Beck, Palin, and the TP.

Causation? No.

Role? Yes.
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disagreeing with big government does not create a toxic atmosphere. you liberals take every tragedy and try to turn it into some agenda to stiffle free speach.

the fact is that if someone goes against democrats, it's hate speech and you libs want it shut up.

answer this gator, when that muslim killed all those people at ft hood, why did you dems beg for calm and patience and asked for America not to jump to conclusions. yet, 4 days into this tragedy, you guys have accused every conservative for influencing this guy though you have no facts at all.
 
#43
#43
DinkinFlicka said:
I never read your other threads concerning this, but I know that I agree with every bit of this post.
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Zero evidence but it supports your political view = logical conclusion.

Some evidence that points to this being not applicable in the current situation and you label the OP partisan prick.

Hooray for non-vitriolic political discourse!
 
#44
#44
DinkinFlicka said:
Turning tail from what? If you try and find me amongst that accusatory mess that's been spewing since Saturday, you'll surely fail.

Like I said, I never bought into jack.
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You obviously are otherwise you'd have disagreed with lawgators statement about talk radio/fox/rush etc playing a role in the crime.
 
#46
#46
droski said:
why? he was obsessed with the lady and the perceived slight he gave her. how is this any different than a guy killing his cheating gf? besides him inventing a relationship in his mind that is.
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There's not nearly as much relationship advice/commentary and there is political commentary in the American media.

It's Bret Michaels' Rock of Love versus CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and ABC.
 
#47
#47
azVolFan said:
You obviously are otherwise you'd have disagreed with lawgators statement about talk radio/fox/rush etc playing a role in the crime.
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Maybe in your world, but not in mine. Like LG said, it didn't cause it. Lunacy was the cause, fanaticism was the spark, and outside influence was the brimstone.

Is everything black and white with you?
 
#49
#49
DinkinFlicka said:
Maybe in your world, but not in mine. Like LG said, it didn't cause it. Lunacy was the cause, fanaticism was the spark, and outside influence was the brimstone.

Is everything black and white with you?
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The guy did this on his own. Political rhetoric was no more a factor than eating red meat.
 
#50
#50
joevol320 said:
disagreeing with big government does not create a toxic atmosphere. you liberals take every tragedy and try to turn it into some agenda to stiffle free speach.

the fact is that if someone goes against democrats, it's hate speech and you libs want it shut up.

answer this gator, when that muslim killed all those people at ft hood, why did you dems beg for calm and patience and asked for America not to jump to conclusions. yet, 4 days into this tragedy, you guys have accused every conservative for influencing this guy though you have no facts at all.
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Liberals are deranged and have no mental clarity. That's why.
 
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