killer did not listen to talk radio.

#76
#76
azVolFan said:
Red and blue would be better colors to use probably so I hope you don't mind me changing them...

You are ignoring the blue evidence and making up red evidence. I'm not saying it's a blue problem, I am saying there is no evidence to show that it's red. I see it as being a bluish purple problem rather than red problem.

Good grief, lets go ahead and graduate kindergarten. mkay.
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I've done neither. I'm merely throwing my opinion/take on this, and you're taking everything I say and running with it. I don't debate with folks who distort my words because this means they clearly aren't worth the time or effort it takes to discuss these things.

And for the record, there's no evidence to indicate either side is to blame. You failed to dismiss one side for no apparent reason.
 
#78
#78
DinkinFlicka said:
His targets were just coincidental, I guess :blink:
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The six that are dead are only probably coincidental and the congresswoman is most likely not. The shooter is very crazy and it's hard to know who he was motivated by but there is still no evidence whatsoever that he was influenced by the right. Wishing for it and it being true are two different things.

Is that black and white too?
 
#79
#79
IPorange said:
This is ridiculous... You are reaching really hard to discount anything that doesn't fit with your initial read or "feeling" on this.
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Sorry that I'm not so easily sold on the words of a person who seemingly has no problem admitting that he called a crazed shooter his friend.

IT. IS. WEIRD.

I am hardly a fan of convenience. This whole story reeks of it.
 
#80
#80
DinkinFlicka said:
I've done neither. I'm merely throwing my opinion/take on this, and you're taking everything I say and running with it. I don't debate with folks who distort my words because this means they clearly aren't worth the time or effort it takes to discuss these things.

And for the record, there's no evidence to indicate either side is to blame. You failed to dismiss one side for no apparent reason.
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The OP evidence was in direct relation to the non-evidence claim that you support. Is it conclusive? No way. However it is more evidence than zero evidence which you now admit exists for the viewpoint you support.

The OP evidence taken along with other things we've learned suggest your viewpoint is entirely unsupported.
 
#82
#82
DinkinFlicka said:
Sorry that I'm not so easily sold on the words of a person who seemingly has no problem admitting that he called a crazed shooter his friend.

IT. IS. WEIRD.

I am hardly a fan of convenience. This whole story reeks of it.
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you don't know any crazy people who you hang out with occasionally? really?
 
#86
#86
volinbham said:
The OP evidence was in direct relation to the non-evidence claim that you support. Is it conclusive? No way. However it is more evidence than zero evidence which you now admit exists for the viewpoint you support.

The OP evidence taken along with other things we've learned suggest your viewpoint is entirely unsupported.
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It's really astounding that outside influences are being completely thrown out the window by some of you.

It's even more astounding how much more willing the accusatory attacks from the left have caused people to be when it comes to accepting other theories.

I'm starting to think you aren't entirely sure of my viewpoint.
 
#90
#90
DinkinFlicka said:
It's really astounding that outside influences are being completely thrown out the window by some of you.

It's even more astounding how much more willing the accusatory attacks from the left have caused people to be when it comes to accepting other theories.

I'm starting to think you aren't entirely sure of my viewpoint.
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if there was ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER than perhaps we'd put some credence in this thoery.

the fort hood guy sure sounded like a lot of liberals i know. can we blame obama for that shooting?
 
#92
#92
DinkinFlicka said:
It's really astounding that outside influences are being completely thrown out the window by some of you.

What outside influences? Where is the evidence that they played any role?

It's even more astounding how much more willing the accusatory attacks from the left have caused people to be when it comes to accepting other theories.

I'm starting to think you aren't entirely sure of my viewpoint.
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What is your viewpoint? As I understand it you agree with LG that right wing rhetoric has created a climate which pushes (or pushed) crazy but otherwise non-acting loons into politically motivated violence.

Am I close?
 
#93
#93
I'm still waiting for the first possible piece of evidence (not opinion) to show this was inspired by right-wing hatred.
 
#94
#94
Ihatethebuckeyes said:
I think this thread was more a response to LawGators It's the conservative medias fault thread.
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I've been somewhat absent from my computer for a couple of weeks. I never noticed the thread.

Apparently, I need to be more meticulous with what threads I choose to read.
 
#95
#95
DinkinFlicka said:
Wow, this is silly. Do I have some crazy friends? Yes. do I know any crazed killers? Sorry, nope.

Seriously, dro. Wtf?
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i see. so you can tell the difference between simply crazy and a crazed killer? what if he wasn't a crazed killer 3 years ago when this guy knew him?
 
#96
#96
As to throwing outside influences out the window - I'll wait until there is evidence they play a role before including them in my guess as to what happened.

You've seized on one particular outside influence without evidence (which you admit).
 
#98
#98
DinkinFlicka said:
It's really astounding that outside influences are being completely thrown out the window by some of you.

It's even more astounding how much more willing the accusatory attacks from the left have caused people to be when it comes to accepting other theories.

I'm starting to think you aren't entirely sure of my viewpoint.
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To this point its basically an opinion, short of facts coming out that I have not seen.

Heck the sheriff pitched his political views as fact only later to recant and claim it as opinion.

Which do we prefer.
 
#99
#99
volinbham said:
What is your viewpoint? As I understand it you agree with LG that right wing rhetoric has created a climate which pushes (or pushed) crazy but otherwise non-acting loons into politically motivated violence.

Am I close?
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I've only been up for a couple of hours, but I don't recall reading that earlier. I'll go back and check.

Anyway, I think that hostile rhetoric can do wild things to those who are already crazy enough to kill in the name of principal. As far as passive nutcases such as myself, no. I'm not going to heavily distort what I hear on the radio and use it as an excuse to murder innocent people.
 
#100
#100
droski said:
i see. so you can tell the difference between simply crazy and a crazed killer? what if he wasn't a crazed killer 3 years ago when this guy knew him?
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Read up on that guy... he exhibited a lot of immensely sketchy behavior over the past few years. It was obvious that the light wasn't on anymore.

Call me pretentious, but I don't really have any friends who are so mentally FUBAR that they can't hold jobs, go to school, or have social lives (or even walk dogs, dammit). It just happened that way.
 
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