Kim Davis

[hog88]

Oh, boy.

You really showed your hand this time.

I envision you giddy as a damn middle school girl thinking Bretton Woods was going to ask her out on a date at the end of the school day.

Yep, I missed your reply. Found it and it was trash as normal.

 

[1972 Grad]

Oh, boy.

You really showed your hand this time.

I envision you giddy as a damn middle school girl thinking Bretton Woods was going to ask her out on a date at the end of the school day.

Bretton Woods??

 

[volinbham]

I envision you giddy as a damn middle school girl thinking Bretton Woods was going to ask her out on a date at the end of the school day.

I've never seen this BW reference. Am I missing some inside joke here?

 

[volprof]

I understand that you are a Fed Gov guy and all but each state sets their own rules for marriage amongst other things. Different ages, levels of separation between blood relations and even how many times a person can marry.

There is no federal statute mandating a state or county issue marriage licenses, period! So since she was not discrinating by not issuing any licenses just what federal statute was she in violation of? She may have been in violation of state law but then what business is it of the federal government? None!

You're right. I'm a strong federalist.

I've seen how people in certain states go, and I don't like what I see.

Quite frankly, if we were still waiting on your states' rights asses, we'd probably have had a another civil war by now that would have involved a race war.

Sometimes father just knows best.

And at the end of the day, all his children still get along and do their thing.

You all should determine how water rights, districting, allocation of state funds, etc. is determined within your state.

But, no, you should not be able to determine how someone responds to a loved one's personal medical needs and insurance benefits.

Now, if you want to make marriage a personal issue. That is, de-governized, so to speak. That's fine.

But don't you piss on my head and tell me you're the god of rain.

I know better.

 

[volprof]

Bretton Woods??

I've never seen this BW reference. Am I missing some inside joke here?

haha!

No, I have no problem with Bretton.

It's just the dreamiest name of a male date I can think of.

I often joke about this with my students.

Sorry for any confusion.

 

[volinbham]

But, no, you should not be able to determine how someone responds to a loved one's personal medical needs and insurance benefits.

Interesting that medical insurance benefits then are so heavily controlled within state and those who believe father (Feds) knows best also fight the selling of insurance across state lines.

 

[hog88]

You're right. I'm a strong federalist.

I've seen how people in certain states go, and I don't like what I see.

Quite frankly, if we were still waiting on your states' rights asses, we'd probably have had a another civil war by now that would have involved a race war.

Sometimes father just knows best.

And at the end of the day, all his children still get along and do their thing.

You all should determine how water rights, districting, allocation of state funds, etc. is determined within your state.

But, no, you should not be able to determine how someone responds to a loved one's personal medical needs and insurance benefits.

Now, if you want to make marriage a personal issue. That is, de-governized, so to speak. That's fine.

But don't you piss on my head and tell me you're the god of rain.

I know better.

Your best argument is that the Feds Know best? Why the hell do we even have state governments then?

 

[FLVOL69]

The camera outside the jail caught Ted Cruz coming out and the media were calling for him over at the stage. But a Huckabee staffer came over and wouldn't let Cruz come to the stage. Actually physically blocked him three times. And then Huckabee got to do that phony speech and photo op with Davis.

Really pretty funny stuff. Poor Cruz. And what a tool Huckabee is.

They're both infinitely more qualified than the pos you defend on a daily basis.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I'm about sick and tired of you religious whiners constantly whining about how discriminated against you are and how unfair it is that you have to do this or that when you're in a voluntary govt. position.

You sound like the 8 year old that cries for lack of a participation trophy.

Get over yourselves.

If you can't handle the heat in the kitchen, then get your ass out of the ****ing oven.

Making a lot of ASSumptions aren't you?

 

[volprof]

Interesting that medical insurance benefits then are so heavily controlled within state and those who believe father (Feds) knows best also fight the selling of insurance across state lines.

Oh, you ain't no Bretton. He's dreamy.

You're just, ah, blah.

If you don't like my gown, then you just don't worry about it, okay?


Anyhow, you admit that marrying is an established right.

Good for you.

Thanks.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Le sigh.

Unequivocally yes. Only with respects to the belief that marriage should be between one women and one man, the religious rationale is that of man and man is wrong - derived from Leviticus.

This common belief is shared between Westboro and ANYONE else who uses a religious conviction to discriminate against the gays.

How many more straw men are you guys going to cook up to try to derail this? Davis looks, dresses and in respects to the issue that made her famous, acts like she's a Westboro disciple.

I'm done addressing this, I feel like I should borrow some crayons from my neighbors kids and start drawing pictures so the explanation could be better digested.

Your argument holds no water, so yes, leaving may be the best option.

 

[volprof]

Your best argument is that the Feds Know best? Why the hell do we even have state governments then?

You're even dumber than I thought.

Look, I'm glad you're a business success, but I just answered your question here in my previous post.

Good lord, man.

You're surely not this dense.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Sure. We traveled across the country to wed; not everyone can. The thing here is we have conservative states actively looking for a way around the SCOTUS decision. If they are shown an out people living in the SE or MW will soon find their ability to obtain licenses very limited. You and probably 90% of this board have little issue with that, but I find it every bit as petty as the couples suing bakers over cakes. It's ridiculous. Selfish, petty children throwing tantrums when not getting their way.

Wow, "the supporters" making a living off calling people kids tonight. I'd rather a kid fight back than just pout, whine, cry, and call people names like the other side was doing a short 2 months or so ago. Get over yourself.

 

[UGADawg4Life]

I'm a bit surprised no one has mentioned her in four days.

More notably than her is the fact that a number of presidential hopefuls are rallying behind her and specifically supporting her defiance of the judicial order that she and her employees recognize the SCOTUS ruling over what most would consider a cornerstone of the American society, the Constitution. #runonsentence

So far Jindal, Cruz and Huck are all down with Kim's Westboro'esqe shenanigans. In fact Huck's visit to the Carter County Jail is causing the small town to close schools due to traffic and road closures due to his photo op visit.

When did it become OK for presidential candidates to condone and encourage citizens to ignore the Constitution and disobey judges?

I'm embarrassed to be the same species as that ignorant hawg.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Channeling your inner McDad in his absence I see. Not bad. I give it a 3.5 out of a possible 5.

meh, I might go 3.

 

[volinbham]

Oh, you ain't no Bretton. He's dreamy.

You're just, ah, blah.

If you don't like my gown, then you just don't worry about it, okay?


Anyhow, you admit that marrying is an established right.

Good for you.

Thanks.

yes

 

[hog88]

You're even dumber than I thought.

Look, I'm glad you're a business success, but I just answered your question here in my previous post.

Good lord, man.

You're surely not this dense.

No you didn't. Marriage is not an established right at the federal level. That's why each state gets to set their own rules as long as no discrimination is allowed. Well that's not even true since states set their own age limits and such. Example, first cousins can marry in TN but not KY. When will the Feds step in?

 

[82_VOL_83]

I still say it's white and gold...

where is McDad?

Can't be white now, it's after Labor Day.

 

[volprof]

Making a lot of ASSumptions aren't you?

You're slipping, bud.

Like watching a former great overstaying his welcome, so to speak.

How ever will you get your hate mojo back?

 

[Septic]

Actually, it's in Romans as well. But don't let that stop your really bad analogies in reference to Westboro.

And you're done addressing it because you know from the word go it severely weakened your point on the matter. Had you never mentioned it, you likely could have argued your point far better. But even now the way you explain it shows your true thoughts on the matter. That anyone who morally objects to homosexuality equals Westboro in your mind.

What's next? Are you going to say anyone Islamic is a terrorist?

I've already stated that religious people who are opposed to homosexuality are like Westboro - to that point. The religious rationale is the same. Maybe you should go back and re-read.

Your suggesting that it is an equivocation of "Islamists are terrorists" is laughably absurd - a more apt analogy would be that I believe both the Taliban and ISIS share common views on Jihad. Your strawman game is weak tonight.

I expected a better rebuttal than "your point sucks". I'd wager that maybe a little more than some of you care to admit has to do with the fact that Davis' faith holds or is based on many of the same religious tenents as yours.

Frankly, I think this hits a little too close to home and some of you don't like the fact that a spotlight is being cast on the bullshi7 your religion says and the fact that Westboro says it too, they just aren't afraid to shout it.

I've spelled it out over and over, the anti gay morality she's imposed on the citizens of her county are absolutely shared by the members of Westboro. The fact that you guys are arguing this point speaks volumes.

 

[volprof]

No you didn't. Marriage is not an established right at the federal level. That's why each state gets to set their own rules as long as no discrimination is allowed. Well that's not even true since states set their own age limits and such. Example, first cousins can marry in TN but not KY. When will the Feds step in?

You sound like some sort of teenager arguing with his self.

You even contradict yourself halfway through.

Pathetic.

Come back and argue with us when you have a well-formed opinion, clown.

 

[gcbvol]

Wow, "the supporters" making a living off calling people kids tonight. I'd rather a kid fight back than just pout, whine, cry, and call people names like the other side was doing a short 2 months or so ago. Get over yourself.

I've nothing to get over. Peope love to play the victim, and that's all this mess is about.

 

[Septic]

Your argument holds no water, so yes, leaving may be the best option.

You not understanding the argument doesn't mean the signal is bad - it just means your receiver is busted.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You're right. I'm a strong federalist.

I've seen how people in certain states go, and I don't like what I see.

Quite frankly, if we were still waiting on your states' rights asses, we'd probably have had a another civil war by now that would have involved a race war.

Sometimes father just knows best.

And at the end of the day, all his children still get along and do their thing.

You all should determine how water rights, districting, allocation of state funds, etc. is determined within your state.

But, no, you should not be able to determine how someone responds to a loved one's personal medical needs and insurance benefits.

Now, if you want to make marriage a personal issue. That is, de-governized, so to speak. That's fine.

But don't you piss on my head and tell me you're the god of rain.

I know better.

Why not? You the only one here that can do that?

 

[hog88]

You sound like some sort of teenager arguing with his self.

You even contradict yourself halfway through.

Pathetic.

Come back and argue with us when you have a well-formed opinion, clown.

Just where did I contradict myself?