Kim Davis

[82_VOL_83]

Oh, you ain't no Bretton. He's dreamy.

You're just, ah, blah.

If you don't like my gown, then you just don't worry about it, okay?


Anyhow, you admit that marrying is an established right.

Good for you.

Thanks.

Marriage has never been and still isn't a right.

 

[volprof]

Just where did I contradict myself?

Dude, I ain't your worst enemy. You are:

"No you didn't. Marriage is not an established right at the federal level. That's why each state gets to set their own rules as long as no discrimination is allowed. Well that's not even true since states set their own age limits and such. Example, first cousins can marry in TN but not KY. When will the Feds step in?"

Do you seriously need me to underline the problem areas here, like I have to with my developmental English students?

 

[82_VOL_83]

I've already stated that religious people who are opposed to homosexuality are like Westboro - to that point. The religious rationale is the same. Maybe you should go back and re-read.

Your suggesting that it is an equivocation of "Islamists are terrorists" is laughably absurd - a more apt analogy would be that I believe both the Taliban and ISIS share common views on Jihad. Your strawman game is weak tonight.

I expected a better rebuttal than "your point sucks". I'd wager that maybe a little more than some of you care to admit has to do with the fact that Davis' faith holds or is based on many of the same religious tenents as yours.

Frankly, I think this hits a little too close to home and some of you don't like the fact that a spotlight is being cast on the bullshi7 your religion says and the fact that Westboro says it too, they just aren't afraid to shout it.

I've spelled it out over and over, the anti gay morality she's imposed on the citizens of her county are absolutely shared by the members of Westboro. The fact that you guys are arguing this point speaks volumes.

and the anti-religion rhetoric you spew makes you a Nazi. TIFWIW

 

[hog88]

Dude, I ain't your worst enemy. You are:

"No you didn't. Marriage is not an established right at the federal level. That's why each state gets to set their own rules as long as no discrimination is allowed. Well that's not even true since states set their own age limits and such. Example, first cousins can marry in TN but not KY. When will the Feds step in?"

Do you seriously need me to underline the problem areas here, like I have to with my developmental English students?

You cannot be this dense.

 

[82_VOL_83]

I've nothing to get over. Peope love to play the victim, and that's all this mess is about.

And was about pre SCOTUS decision. Don't think it wasn't.

 

[volprof]

Marriage has never been and still isn't a right.

Okay. Fine.

So get your Kim Davis asses out of it then.

De-government it.

Are you cool with that?

Are you cool with completely un-regulated marriage?

 

[volinbham]

I've spelled it out over and over, the anti gay morality she's imposed on the citizens of her county are absolutely shared by the members of Westboro. The fact that you guys are arguing this point speaks volumes.

I'm not anti-gay or anti-gay marriage yet I recognize that someone could be anti-gay marriage but not view homosexuals in the manner that Westboro does. In the end I imagine there's a myriad of views on the topic that all don't regress to the same core "homosexuality is an abomination" view you are suggesting all hold.

Again, if we apply your regression logic your continual instance on ascribing the worst motives on religious people suggests that you suffer religious bigotry. Arguing that speaks volumes.

See how that works?

 

[82_VOL_83]

You not understanding the argument doesn't mean the signal is bad - it just means your receiver is busted.

I understand what you think is your argument well enough to understand it doesn't hold water. You can stop thinking you're clever now. It hasn't worked all night.

 

[Septic]

Marriage has never been and still isn't a right.

You should totally tell that to the Kim Davis legal team. i'm sure that the ammo they need to topple the SCOTUS decision.

Checkmate gay people.

:crazy:

 

[82_VOL_83]

Dude, I ain't your worst enemy. You are:

"No you didn't. Marriage is not an established right at the federal level. That's why each state gets to set their own rules as long as no discrimination is allowed. Well that's not even true since states set their own age limits and such. Example, first cousins can marry in TN but not KY. When will the Feds step in?"

Do you seriously need me to underline the problem areas here, like I have to with my developmental English students?

After reading your drivel tonight, the fact that you admit you teach developmental English is scary.

 

[Septic]

and the anti-religion rhetoric you spew makes you a Nazi. TIFWIW

I can live with that. lol:

 

[82_VOL_83]

Okay. Fine.

So get your Kim Davis asses out of it then.

De-government it.

Are you cool with that?

Are you cool with completely un-regulated marriage?

I am for the concept of civil unions.

 

[82_VOL_83]

You should totally tell that to the Kim Davis legal team. i'm sure that the ammo they need to topple the SCOTUS decision.

Checkmate gay people.

:crazy:

Please tell me exactly where in the Constitution marriage is expressed as a right.

 

[volprof]

You cannot be this dense.

What?

What did I do wrong?

Bro, don't UT student me.

You contradict yourself.

Maybe you didn't mean to, but I'm sick and tired of having to tell you all how you contradict yourself constantly while you act like some sort of impervious little ****.

Don't sell out your UT teacher when you can't do simple **** you're asked to do.

Do it.

No more hiding; no more running.

Account for yourself.

 

[volfanhill]

Interesting to me that the people who are against the Feds being involved in marriage didn't say anything until homosexuals were allowed to. Where were you twenty years ago?

 

[82_VOL_83]

What?

What did I do wrong?

Bro, don't UT student me.

You contradict yourself.

Maybe you didn't mean to, but I'm sick and tired of having to tell you all how you contradict yourself constantly while you act like some sort of impervious little ****.

Don't sell out your UT teacher when you can't do simple **** you're asked to do.

Do it.

No more hiding; no more running.

Account for yourself.

Dude, you need a time out.

 

[Septic]

After reading your drivel tonight, the fact that you admit you teach developmental English is scary.

As well as you comprehend the written word, I'm thinking you may benefit from a remedial course in developmental English.

 

[volprof]

I am for the concept of civil unions.

Fair enough.

Thank you.

This is the first honest to god answer I've gotten.

Thank you, 82.

None of you should receive any benefits then.

Thank you, 82.

You're a smart guy, for sure.

 

[82_VOL_83]

As well as you comprehend the written word, I'm thinking you may benefit from a remedial course in developmental English.

Only thing I comprehend out of this post is that you can't answer my last question. I didn't think you would because it won't fit your ridiculous agenda.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Fair enough.

Thank you.

This is the first honest to god answer I've gotten.

Thank you, 82.

None of you should receive any benefits then.

Thank you, 82.

You're a smart guy, for sure.

The Fair Tax solves all this crap.

 

[gcbvol]

And was about pre SCOTUS decision. Don't think it wasn't.

Absolutely. There is merit with positions on both sides of the issue, but tons of whining and dramatics acting to dilute. That's what this whole KY thing has become - drama, whining and political pandering to top it off.

 

[1972 Grad]

I am having trouble comprehending a lot of this mess tonight. I'm thinking drugs or alcohol is available near some computers.

 

[volprof]

Dude, you need a time out.

Trying to Bogart that joint, my friend?

I keep smoking.

 

[Septic]

Please tell me exactly where in the Constitution marriage is expressed as a right.

It doesn't need to be expressly stated, nitwit.

But if your wondering where in the Constitution the protection is afforded - according to Justice Kennedy, the 14th. More specifically marriage is a liberty protected by the due process clause. For the gays, the due process and the equal protection clause won them their right to be recognized.

 

[hog88]

What?

What did I do wrong?

Bro, don't UT student me.

You contradict yourself.

Maybe you didn't mean to, but I'm sick and tired of having to tell you all how you contradict yourself constantly while you act like some sort of impervious little ****.

Don't sell out your UT teacher when you can't do simple **** you're asked to do.

Do it.

No more hiding; no more running.

Account for yourself.

I have absolutely accounted for myself. If marriage were an established right regulated by the Feds, they would set the rules. It is not therefore the differences in state laws allowing discrimination in various cases.

The Federal Courts have ruled that if a state/county issues marriage licenses they must be issued to both gay and straight. They also must recognize marriages from other states. Great, that's how it should be. What the Federal Courts can't do is force a state or county to issue marriage licenses.