Knoxville Mayor attends Drag Queen Christmas

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n_huffhines said:
This is where it gets really murky. You know how many R rated movies I saw with my Dad? I mean, look at True Lies...Jamie Lee Curtis keeps her clothes on and that thing was too hot for a 12 year old, forget about all the boobs and stuff in other R rated movies. Hell, PG movies had boobs when I was a kid.

So where do we draw the line, nanny state warriors? Should the governor be threatening Cinemark too?

Let's not even get into the dangers of allowing the internet into our homes, which invites far worse things....worse than any of us would even want to think about.
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We already have a rating system for movies and, even though we may disagree on a particular film, the system is pretty well respected by consumers. If other entertainment venues keep trying to push the envelope to chase dollars by exposing kids to material that the film ratings would disallow, then it is time to start rating those materials as well.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Yes I do. My minor child is not watching 9 1/2 weeks in my home. If he goes to a neighbor‘s home and THEY allow him to watch it. We are going to have some „words“.
If you let your child watch it, i will think you are a terrible parent but you have nothing to fear from me or from the law as it has already been determined that the said movie can legally be shown to your child if you allow it.
Since there is no objectively defined „rating“ for the drag show, then, short of relying on the show‘s producers‘ word that it is age appropriate, it then becomes the legitimate purview of the courts to make that determination
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So, you don't think people that let their children watch 9 and 1/2 weeks are depraved liberal scum because the law said it is okay? I thought you conservative types didn't like to rely upon the government to tell them right from wrong.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
No thanks to that. Why would we want the government to tell us how to raise our kids? How about we all live by our own values and let others do the same.
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i am not telling you how to raise your kids. The question here is do we allow people to perform certain acts in front of children? The only legal sanctions being contemplated here are against the venue and show organizers. As far as I have heard, no one is threatening to lock up the parents.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Probably not, but it is because you still believe in slavery and forcing a woman to be enslaved to a fetus.
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Yeah, spending 6 months working in the NICU trying to keep those fetuses alive kind of has an impact on a soul. The worst part was telling mothers before extreme preterm deliveries that there was nothing we could do to save their fetuses. They felt much better once I explained that what was about to be delivered wasn't actually a live, human baby.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
i am not telling you how to raise your kids. The question here is do we allow people to perform certain acts in front of children? The only legal sanctions being contemplated here are against the venue and show organizers. As far as I have heard, no one is threatening to lock up the parents.
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Which, in effect, is the government telling parents how to best raise their children.

How about parents that let their children see Broke Back Mountain?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
So, you don't think people that let their children watch 9 and 1/2 weeks are depraved liberal scum because the law said it is okay? I thought you conservative types didn't like to rely upon the government to tell them right from wrong.
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No, i still think that parents who let their kids watch it are deprived liberal scum; but as I respect the rule of law, my own personal opinions have no bearing on restricting their behavior. But if I am aware that they do so, my kid isn’t going to be hanging out at their house either
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Yeah, spending 6 months working in the NICU trying to keep those fetuses alive kind of has an impact on a soul. The worst part was telling mothers before extreme preterm deliveries that there was nothing we could do to save their fetuses. They felt much better once I explained that what was about to be delivered wasn't actually a live, human baby.
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Those women had made a choice to carry the fetus to term. I am speaking of the ones that you are forcing that upon.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Still lying. Damn. I have clearly stated that I do not think the show I saw depicted was any place for children. Yet you continue to lie. You are a lying hateful knuckle dragger because you have no consistency to your arguments other than "liberals bad."
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You defended until doc showed you pictures. Then you questioned the validity of the pictures. Then you said well maybe that's not good but what about R rated movies? That's OK, I'd be embarrassed too.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
No thanks to that. Why would we want the government to tell us how to raise our kids? How about we all live by our own values and let others do the same.
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Sure thing. Tell you what, stop feeding your kids and let them play with guns and drive the car around town. Let’s see how the state responds when they find out.
We set boundaries for parents every single day and society accepts it. The only question is where we draw the line between acceptable reasonable boundaries vs meddling.
To me and for most legal standards, exposing a minor to pornography falls in the basket of the state having a legitimate interest in restricting.
I understand the opinion that disagrees as I am pretty much a libertarian; but I will never subscribe to a totally „anything goes“ way of life either
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Sure thing. Tell you what, stop feeding your kids and let them play with guns and drive the car around town. Let’s see how the state responds when they find out.
We set boundaries for parents every single day and society accepts it. The only question is where we draw the line between acceptable reasonable boundaries vs meddling.
To me and for most legal standards, exposing a minor to pornography falls in the basket of the state having a legitimate interest in restricting.
I understand the opinion that disagrees as I am pretty much a libertarian; but I will never subscribe to a totally „anything goes“ way of life either
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we just disagree on where that line should be. Someone taking their kid to see a drag show doesn't interfere with my ability to raise my kid the way I want.
 
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MG1968 said:
That’s easy to say. I wouldn’t trust any random stranger around my kids. I might trust them around @hog88 or @McDad. But I’d be afraid that my kids would be a bad influence on them, not the other way around.
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You wouldn’t want your kids hanging around me, they’d come back calling everyone a meathead and wanting a gun.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
You defended until doc showed you pictures. Then you questioned the validity of the pictures. Then you said well maybe that's not good but what about R rated movies? That's OK, I'd be embarrassed too.
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Show me one post where I defended anything. You are a liar and coward.

The pictures shown were not from the Knoxville drag show. So, you guys, as usual moved the goal posts mid conversation.

I, for several posts, asked you why there was a difference between a parent accompanying their child to this sexualized show and not to R rated movies which sometimes show even more sexualized content. You cannot read and leave your projections out of what are relatively short concise sentences.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
We already have a rating system for movies and, even though we may disagree on a particular film, the system is pretty well respected by consumers. If other entertainment venues keep trying to push the envelope to chase dollars by exposing kids to material that the film ratings would disallow, then it is time to start rating those materials as well.
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Again, you cannot seem to think on your own. What is the difference from a content perspective?
 
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Actually. I think I am going to stop arguing this point with liberals. They clearly think their position is the one that will resonate with parents come election time. The fact that Ron DeSantis used this issue to win by TWENTY POINTS in what recently a toss up purple state obviously doesn’t register with their outlook.
Let’s just let them continue on their merry way arguing that drag shows for kids are good while we expectantly await the inauguration of Ron DeSantis in January 2024. Landslide coming soon. And trust me liberals, you REALLY don’t want to investigate the 2024 Senate Map either. The number of D Senators up for re-election in Red States is historically large.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
Actually. I think I am going to stop arguing this point with liberals. They clearly think their position is the one that will resonate with parents come election time. The fact that Ron DeSantis used this issue to win by TWENTY POINTS in what recently a toss up purple state obviously doesn’t register with their outlook.
Let’s just let them continue on their merry way arguing that drag shows for kids are good while we expectantly await the inauguration of Ron DeSantis in January 2024. Landslide coming soon. And trust me liberals, you REALLY don’t want to investigate the 2024 Senate Map either. The number of D Senators up for re-election in Red States is historically large.
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Can you provide any original thought or are you just content regurgitating your right wing propaganda?
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
I went to a death metal show a couple of weeks back that the venue determined was appropriate for all ages. Honestly, I wouldn’t have wanted my 13 year old in attendance. It had nothing to do with the music, but the people were the problem. Bunch of drunk idiots with some getting a little too aggressive on the dance floor. Not a safe environment for kids however a few (not many) parents brought their children. I also wouldn’t take my kid to a drag Christmas play. Parents need to decide what is best for their kids. Some parents will be disappointed by the boundaries society has created.
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But did they wear prosthetic breasts?

That's what is vital here.
 
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allvol123 said:
Love seeing the guy that finds name calling detestable, go all in on name calling.
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I know I'm arguing with people who have the critical thinking capacities of children, but y'all are grown ass adults.

I'll lose no sleep over referring to each and every one of you as the piss guppies you are 🤷
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Can you provide any original thought or are you just content regurgitating your right wing propaganda?
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You are getting repetitively tiresome friend. Thoughts are not any less original just because they independently agree with other thinkers. These were my positions before many of the right wing pundits were even born.
Like I say, keep making your current arguments at least through November 2024. I mean that honestly. PLEASE do
 
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