Lady Vol Softball.

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Sandvol said:
They must think a lot of that freshman pitcher Florida has. She must be an amazing player.
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Kelly Barnhill. Made team USA earlier this month. Not the junior team (they call it "elite" now) but the full blown one with Raven Chavonne which is huge considering she has yet to throw a pitch in college.
 
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Whatever they do with the name, the "lady vols" logo is (like the name) completely outdated. It's been around forever and looks it. The T design, the baby blue swirly 'lady volunteers'.... is no longer a good look--but, yes, I know the diehards still love it. Dainty name, dainty logo, and the basketball team (not the softball team) plays dainty.
 
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armchair said:
Whatever they do with the name, the "lady vols" logo is (like the name) completely outdated. It's been around forever and looks it. The T design, the baby blue swirly 'lady volunteers'.... is no longer a good look--but, yes, I know the diehards still love it. Dainty name, dainty logo, and the basketball team (not the softball team) plays dainty.
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That logo has 8 national championships.
 
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CannonVol80 said:
Why, if all teams, "under the umbrella of inclusiveness", are "representatives of the same Power T that has been decided as the unifying symbol around which to assemble those individuals", do you feel the need to point out that they are "Tennessee Volunteer Women's Softball"?

Isn't designating the team by gender unnecessary and simply an expression of sexism?

And, in case my use of the blue font isn't enough to make it clear that I, personally, do not feel that the gender identification of any particular sports team is, in any way, sexist, I will restate my position. Since it is, in fact, necessary to differentiate between teams based on gender (at least until we start requiring that all college level sports teams are co-ed), I find it difficult to understand why the proponents of the club of 'inclusiveness" find the term "Women" or "Women's" acceptable and yet find the term "Lady" or "Ladies" so offensive.

Jim
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I hate to use ESPN as a reference, but in their streams for scores, they identify that they are going to stream women basketball scores with NCAAW and mens scores as NCAAM.
 
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Vols4life said:
It would not surprise me to see 4 or 5 SEC teams at the WCWS this year
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But you probably won't see more than 3, I predict, because some SEC schools could be facing each other in the super regional. You'd have to send SEC teams all over the country in the tournament to get 5 in the championships series.
 
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CannonVol80 said:
Why, if all teams, "under the umbrella of inclusiveness", are "representatives of the same Power T that has been decided as the unifying symbol around which to assemble those individuals", do you feel the need to point out that they are "Tennessee Volunteer Women's Softball"?

Isn't designating the team by gender unnecessary and simply an expression of sexism?

And, in case my use of the blue font isn't enough to make it clear that I, personally, do not feel that the gender identification of any particular sports team is, in any way, sexist, I will restate my position. Since it is, in fact, necessary to differentiate between teams based on gender (at least until we start requiring that all college level sports teams are co-ed), I find it difficult to understand why the proponents of the club of 'inclusiveness" find the term "Women" or "Women's" acceptable and yet find the term "Lady" or "Ladies" so offensive.

Jim
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either "women" or "lady" when referencing the softball team. We only have one, which doesn't have to be distinguished from a men's softball team, so neither term is needed.

As for the difference between "women' and "lady," "women" is the fundamental word to describe females. There are "men" and "women," males and females. "Lady" is more of an antiquated word that many associate with the 1950s--it was a polite way to refer to proper, socially acceptable women. There were /gentlemen/ and /ladies/. It conjures images of parasols, tea parties and finger sandwiches. And that was the way that the larger, male dominated world viewed female athletics for a long time--as a dainty diversion, not be taken seriously. Nobody would look at a modern female athlete and say, 'wow, what a fetching lady."
 
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armchair said:
But you probably won't see more than 3, I predict, because some SEC schools could be facing each other in the super regional. You'd have to send SEC teams all over the country in the tournament to get 5 in the championships series.
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The SEC sent 5 teams to the WCWS last season - Florida, LSU, Auburn, Alabama, and Tennessee - and the conference is expected to be stronger this season.
 
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armchair said:
First, you don't need to say either "women" or "lady" when referencing the softball team. We only have one, which doesn't have to be distinguished from a men's softball team, so neither term is needed.

As for the difference between "women' and "lady," "women" is the fundamental word to describe females. There are "men" and "women," males and females. "Lady" is more of an antiquated word that many associate with the 1950s--it was a polite way to refer to proper, socially acceptable women. There were /gentlemen/ and /ladies/. It conjures images of parasols, tea parties and finger sandwiches. And that was the way that the larger, male dominated world viewed female athletics for a long time--as a dainty diversion, not be taken seriously. Nobody would look at a modern female athlete and say, 'wow, what a fetching lady."
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You have an unbelievable blind spot. The bolded above is how YOU viewed female athletics, not everybody else. It's why you keep repeating it over and over.
 
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Benionsopinion said:
Perhaps you could add to your statement some semblance of proof for your blanket statement. What leading feminists and what are their quotes?
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It is a major point of emphasis in at least 5 major 20th century feminist movements and their platforms related to language. Google is your friend. I don't need to do the work for you. Katha Pollitt has recently provided commentary when asked about the Lady terminology. It has a long history though.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
I thought you said you were done in this thread?
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Second wind. I think passion related to discussing equality and elimination of discrimination or at least the appearance of situations creating disunity and internal lack of harmony for young impressionable people finding struggle through these tribulations is noble and worthy of changing my position on ending participation in this enlightenment opportunity.
 
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Ideologically hidebound people are funny, aren't they?

When you're a two-dimensional thinker living in a three dimensional world, do you even know there's a third dimension?
 
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Hey ro, you should read Ayn Rand. Personally, I couldn't stand her insufferable superior attitude. But, maybe she has something in common with you.
 
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Benionsopinion said:
Perhaps you could add to your statement some semblance of proof for your blanket statement. What leading feminists and what are their quotes?
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Thank you kindly, but I don't need someone speaking for me. "Leading feminists" have no more authority or credibility than any other person with XX chromosomes - which is another way of saying woman/lady. Since I have XX chromosomes (and no Y going with them) I can state the term lady is just fine. It simply means you have good manners and self control. So play basketball with good basketball manners. For those too slow to comprehend what that means, don't sucker punch a la Griner, don't intentionally throw elbows to head, don't undercut players on break away layups, etc. And, no, they are not expected to have a tea party at center court.

It is funny to read how some on here are such experts in history, language, culture, etc. - and blind as a bat and more stubborn than an angry mule.
 
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Smallvol#1 said:
Thank you kindly, but I don't need someone speaking for me. "Leading feminists" have no more authority or credibility than any other person with XX chromosomes - which is another way of saying woman/lady. Since I have XX chromosomes (and no Y going with them) I can state the term lady is just fine. It simply means you have good manners and self control. So play basketball with good basketball manners. For those too slow to comprehend what that means, don't sucker punch a la Griner, don't intentionally throw elbows to head, don't undercut players on break away layups, etc. And, no, they are not expected to have a tea party at center court.

It is funny to read how some on here are such experts in history, language, culture, etc. - and blind as a bat and more stubborn than an angry mule.
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Darn right. It's just like those climatologists thinking they know more about global warming than me and my ability to decide if I'm hot or cold. No so-called doctor should be telling you anything about your health. You live in that body, so obviously you are the expert on that subject. You told that guy!
 
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Lady Vols in action in 18 days will be great to see what the team looks like especially the young pitchers.
 
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reverseosmosis said:
Darn right. It's just like those climatologists thinking they know more about global warming than me and my ability to decide if I'm hot or cold. No so-called doctor should be telling you anything about your health. You live in that body, so obviously you are the expert on that subject. You told that guy!
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You live in an either/or world. No room for any middle ground or nuances or gray areas in your world.
 
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