Last years record was not an reflection of talent

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#126
Johnny say "thanks bama!"

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bamawriter said:
This is an easy excuse. The truth is that you get beat if you think too much and guess wrong. Thinking too much does cause you to lose a footrace. And you can even recover from guessing wrong if you have the talent to recover. Tennessee doesn't have that kind of talent.
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What? You're an idiot. It's not just guessing. It's knowing the assignment and reading the RB's, TE's and whatching the guards and then knowing what to do by reacting and not thinking. And neither bammer nor any other team has the "talent" to over come not knowing what to do or being out of place. You're in over your heard.
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bamawriter said:
If UT's LBs and DBs never lost a footrace all year, you'd have a point. But they lost pretty much every one they were in.

The scheme and the coaching were abysmal. But you and your ilk are desperately hoping that it was the coaching and nothing else despite the fact that you could get plenty of evidence to the contrary by simply watching the games. You can't coach someone into being faster than God made him.
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VolBeef88 said:
What? You're an idiot. It's not just guessing. It's knowing the assignment and reading the RB's, TE's and whatching the guards and then knowing what to do by reacting and not thinking. And neither bammer nor any other team has the "talent" to over come not knowing what to do or being out of place. You're in over your heard.
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That is some first class delusion you have going on there. You're like that guy from "A Beautiful Mind" without the economic brilliance.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
What? You're an idiot. It's not just guessing. It's knowing the assignment and reading the RB's, TE's and whatching the guards and then knowing what to do by reacting and not thinking. And neither bammer nor any other team has the "talent" to over come not knowing what to do or being out of place. You're in over your heard.
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What percentage of time do you believe people lined up incorrectly?

100%
75%
50%

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bamawriter said:
That is some first class delusion you have going on there. You're like that guy from "A Beautiful Mind" without the economic brilliance.
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Haha you have nothing. Have you ever played the damned game? Do you know what to do when you see a TE shift? Do you know what to do when a guard pulls to the weak side? There's a helluva lot more to football than what your dumbass read in "football for idiots".
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bamawriter said:
I've criticized Sunseri numerous times in this thread. So either you didn't actually read the whole thing, or you didn't understand what you read.
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Of course you are going to make consolations if you come on a rival board. You can spill your troll bs, but you know you wont get taken seriously if you say Sunseri is a good coach. You can say that Sunseri is a horrible coach all you want, but your argument clearly goes after the talent more than the coaching.

I don't know you, nor do I know what your motivations or thoughts are. I was just saying what I thought your real deal was. If I was wrong I was wrong, but after the bs you post on here I really don't give a d***.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
Haha you have nothing. Have you ever played the damned game?
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Yep. Played both sides of the ball in high school.

UT's defensive players are better than I could have ever dreamed of being. But then, they made as many big plays last year as I did sitting on my couch.
 
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thadolphinman said:
Of course you are going to make consolations if you come on a rival board. You can spill your troll bs, but you know you wont get taken seriously if you say Sunseri is a good coach. You can say that Sunseri is a horrible coach all you want, but your argument clearly goes after the talent more than the coaching.

I don't know you, nor do I know what your motivations or thoughts are. I was just saying what I thought your real deal was. If I was wrong I was wrong, but after the bs you post on here I really don't give a d***.
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Way to be an internet BA, Mr. 40 posts.
 
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bamawriter said:
Yep. Played both sides of the ball in high school.

UT's defensive players are better than I could have ever dreamed of being. But then, they made as many big plays last year as I did sitting on my couch.
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I've known for a while that your reading comp skills were terrible so I can only imagine how atrocious your "writing" is. You've obviously gotten lost in trying to discuss football. Show me where I said we played well? I stated by fact that the primary reason our defense was so bad was coaching. You add to that lower than normal talent and you get what you saw UT had last year. For you and the idiot gator to act as if our main problem was lack of speed shows your ignorance of our team and more specifically your ignorance of football.
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VolBeef88 said:
I've known for a while that your reading comp skills were terrible so I can only imagine how atrocious your "writing" is. You've obviously gotten lost in trying to discuss football. Show me where I said we played well? I stated by fact that the primary reason our defense was so bad was coaching. You add to that lower than normal talent and you get what you saw UT had last year. For you and the idiot gator to act as if our main problem was lack of speed shows your ignorance of our team and more specifically your ignorance of football.
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Good Lord.

Tennessee's defenders would all run sub-4 40s if it wasn't for Sal Sunseri. That make you feel better?
 
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DarthVisor said:
That's on (most) message boards, though. It's not like you're known for posting reasoned, informed, fact supported arguments.
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It might help if you would recognize one when you saw it.

I may not always be correct.... but I will support what I say with verifiable facts. That has been frustrating to folks like you I know. I am also one of the last people here you will see make any ironclad prediction.

BTW, if someone responded to the FACTS I posted earlier... please point me to that response.
 
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bamawriter said:
Way to be an internet BA, Mr. 40 posts.
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Lmao, you come on a Tennessee board and attack people, but if somebody attacks you here comes keyboard badass and Mr. 40 posts comments. I'm not trying to be a badass, and I never was. If I was trying to be a badass I would go on to a Bama board and posts 5,000 times and talk **** about their team. I don't do that tho......
 
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bamawriter.... why not just answer the simple question. If it is a matter of speed and talent then why was basically the same D plus a few talented players "less talented" than the '11 D?

They lost two players who really made a big difference for the D. A Johnson who was no faster than UT's LB's this past year and M Jackson who was a DE playing DT.

How can virtually the same group of players be LESS talented one year later?

Again, I have not seen anyone say that UT's D is loaded with elite players.... just simply that Wilcox made them a mid-pack SEC D while SS made them the laughing stock of college football.

And while you are at it.... Wilcox faced a tougher schedule.
 
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sjt18 said:
bamawriter.... why not just answer the simple question. If it is a matter of speed and talent then why was basically the same D plus a few talented players "less talented" than the '11 D?

They lost two players who really made a big difference for the D. A Johnson who was no faster than UT's LB's this past year and M Jackson who was a DE playing DT.

How can virtually the same group of players be LESS talented one year later?

Again, I have not seen anyone say that UT's D is loaded with elite players.... just simply that Wilcox made them a mid-pack SEC D while SS made them the laughing stock of college football.

And while you are at it.... Wilcox faced a tougher schedule.
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Actually, SEC offenses were better on average this year over last. So that has something to do with it.

And you are arguing a case I didn't make. I never said they became less talented. Wilcox did a better job with average talent than Sunseri did. Tennessee still gave up big plays under Wilcox, but not as many. By being in position, the Vols stopped most plays before they turned into foot races, but when they weren't in the right spot, they never had the speed to recover. Just because they did a better job up front doesn't mean they were any faster with Wilcox as DC.
 
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bamawriter said:
Good Lord.

Tennessee's defenders would all run sub-4 40s if it wasn't for Sal Sunseri. That make you feel better?
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Haha again you show your ignorance. Where did I say anything close to that? Oh that's right fool, I didn't. The reason our team was as bad as it was is primarily due to poor coaching on both sides of the ball.
I sat and watched LB's miss assignments like clockwork not to mention our DB's being completely lost. The reality is when a play is in action if you have to think about what to do the ball carrier or WR will best you every time. That is big boy football. Now go play on your bammer sites with your other ignorant dumbass bammer fans. I've found few, very few bammer fans who know the difference a cover 2, press or a zone.

And for the record we're gonna struggle in 2013 as well. It's gonna take a while to rid the stench that the former Sabanites left in Ktown.
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bamawriter said:
Do you actually think Sal believed that Johnson and Maggitt were ever going to be better than McClain, Upshaw, Hightower, etc?

I'm not saying the coaching wasn't terrible, it was. But you can't coach speed, and UT has some slooooowww DBs and LBs.
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But we make up for it by having a QB.....and not some kid that is going to be drafted in the 4th round and play 3 string backup for the next 3-4 years, then be a car salesmen. Aj is one of the worst Qb I have ever seen play d1 college football.

In before "But aj going to have 4 rings!"
 
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Vol4life25 said:
But we make up for it by having a QB.....and not some kid that is going to be drafted in the 4th round and play 3 string backup for the next 3-4 years, then be a car salesmen. Aj is one of the worst Qb I have ever seen play d1 college football.
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You were doing fine until the end.

But that last part goes beyond hyperbole into complete idiocy.
 
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bamawriter said:
Actually, SEC offenses were better on average this year over last. So that has something to do with it.

And you are arguing a case I didn't make. I never said they became less talented. Wilcox did a better job with average talent than Sunseri did. Tennessee still gave up big plays under Wilcox, but not as many. By being in position, the Vols stopped most plays before they turned into foot races, but when they weren't in the right spot, they never had the speed to recover. Just because they did a better job up front doesn't mean they were any faster with Wilcox as DC.
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I'd argue that there aren't any defenses in the country that would win a foot race against offenses of a comparable level. There are defensive backs that can really run but not many LBs that move like RBs.
 
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