Latest Bowl Projections; One SEC teams gets a BCS Bowl?!

#77
#77
hatvol96 said:
This isn't going to be decided solely on geography. The SEC office is not going to have a situation where multiple 5/6 loss teams take priority over a 9-3 team. The Peach Bowl likes to tout itself as one of the best non-BCS bowls out there. They aren't going to take an unranked 5 or 6 loss team over a 9-3 team in the top 20.
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I take it you guys didn't think much of the Atlanta Journal Constitution article guaranteeing Georgia the Peach Bowl if they beat Ga Tech?
 
#78
#78
oklavol said:
I take it you guys didn't think much of the Atlanta Journal Constitution article guaranteeing Georgia the Peach Bowl if they beat Ga Tech?
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I don't read newspapers written in crayon. The AJC makes the News Senseless look like the Washington Post.
 
#79
#79
jaybird_1981 said:
If UT beats Vandy and UK they go no lower then the Cotton or Peach bowl.
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The Cotton Bowl gets 1st pick out of the SEC West and the Outback gets 1st pick out of the East. Each one can take second pick in the opposite division if they so chose. No way UT goes to the Cotton Bowl over AU, Arky (if not SEC Champs) or LSU. All three of those schools are in the West, closer to Dallas for fan travel (AU maybe about even) and will have same # or more wins than UT. Plus two of them have head-to-head advantage with the Vols. IMO it is very likely that the Outback will take a team from the West (whoever is left from AU, Arky and LSU) meaning UT's "best" bowl opportunity would be the Peach, which may have to chose between a 9-win UT and 8-win UGA. About the only way I can even see UT getting to the Outback now is IF:

1. The Vols must win out.
2. Arky beats LSU.
3. UF beats Arky in SECCG.
 
#80
#80
oklavol said:
I agree that's about a 10 hr drive.

But where else do you put SC thats closer? Maybe in the Music City Bowl and Kentucky or UT in the Liberty Bowl?
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If anyone gets the screw job it is SC. If Ky gets their 7th. Win, it is written that a 7 win team has to be taken over a 6 win team. KY will get #7 this week. SC is or will be out of the picture as far as our agreements with the Bowls. They could get a spot from some other conference who can't get their numbers in.

Quote from the Tennessean

Eight teams have reached the six wins necessary to qualify for postseason play, although six wins doesn't guarantee a team a bowl trip. The safe number is seven wins, because any seven-win team first has to be put in a bowl before a six-win team can go
 
#83
#83
Ooltewah Vol said:
If anyone gets the screw job it is SC. If Ky gets their 7th. Win, it is written that a 7 win team has to be taken over a 6 win team. KY will get #7 this week. SC is or will be out of the picture as far as our agreements with the Bowls. They could get a spot from some other conference who can't get their numbers in.

Quote from the Tennessean

Eight teams have reached the six wins necessary to qualify for postseason play, although six wins doesn't guarantee a team a bowl trip. The safe number is seven wins, because any seven-win team first has to be put in a bowl before a six-win team can go
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I think UT has the inside route to the Music City Bowl being in Nashville. Second would be Kentucky.

Sugar- Ark
Capital One- Florida
Cotton- Auburn
Outback - LSU
Peach - GA
Music City - UT
Liberty - Bama
Weedeater - Ky/SC

either SC or KY is odd man out.
 
#84
#84
VolunteerHillbilly said:
The Cotton Bowl gets 1st pick out of the SEC West and the Outback gets 1st pick out of the East. Each one can take second pick in the opposite division if they so chose. No way UT goes to the Cotton Bowl over AU, Arky (if not SEC Champs) or LSU. All three of those schools are in the West, closer to Dallas for fan travel (AU maybe about even) and will have same # or more wins than UT. Plus two of them have head-to-head advantage with the Vols. IMO it is very likely that the Outback will take a team from the West (whoever is left from AU, Arky and LSU) meaning UT's "best" bowl opportunity would be the Peach, which may have to chose between a 9-win UT and 8-win UGA. About the only way I can even see UT getting to the Outback


now is IF:

1. The Vols must win out.
2. Arky beats LSU.
3. UF beats Arky in SECCG.
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Here is another possibility. Notice what the Orange Bowl said to the Tennessean after the Tn/Ark game.

Representatives from the Orange Bowl were in attendance at the Arkansas-Tennessee game and said they would be interested in the loser of the SEC Championship game.
The SEC's chances of getting two teams into the BCS were helped by Texas and California
 
#85
#85
oklavol said:
I think UT has the inside route to the Music City Bowl being in Nashville. Second would be Kentucky.

Sugar- Ark
Capital One- Florida
Cotton- Auburn
Outback - LSU
Peach - GA
Music City - UT
Liberty - Bama
Weedeater - Ky/SC

either SC or KY is odd man out.
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No SEC team will be an odd man out. They will receive a bid. All it takes is for Minnesota and Indiana to lose their last game.
 
#86
#86
jaybird_1981 said:
No SEC team will be an odd man out. They will receive a bid. All it takes is for Minnesota or Indiana to lose their last game.
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Sugar- Ark
Capital One- Florida
Cotton- LSU
Outback - Auburn
Peach - UT
Music City - Georgis
Liberty - Bama
Weedeater - Ky/SC

A Bowl which can not get teams from their conference ties. KY/SC
 
#87
#87
Here's how I see the BCS shaping up:

Rose Ohio St/Mich loser vs. Notre Dame
Tostitos Big 12 Champion vs. Boise State OR SEC #2 OR ???
Orange ACC Champion vs. Big East Champion
Sugar UF/Arky winner vs. Big East #2 OR Wisconsin
Ntl. C-ship: Ohio St/Mich winner vs. USC

I guess there is a possibility for a 2-loss LSU or Arky but I would not be surprised to see Boise State get the nod. Do the BCS at-large slots have to be filled in order of BCS ranking?
 
#88
#88
VolunteerHillbilly said:
Here's how I see the BCS shaping up:

Rose Ohio St/Mich loser vs. Notre Dame
Tostitos Big 12 Champion vs. Boise State OR SEC #2 OR ???
Orange ACC Champion vs. Big East Champion
Sugar UF/Arky winner vs. Big East #2 OR Wisconsin
Ntl. C-ship: Ohio St/Mich winner vs. USC

I guess there is a possibility for a 2-loss LSU or Arky but I would not be surprised to see Boise State get the nod. Do the BCS at-large slots have to be filled in order of BCS ranking?
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Here is how it works The BCS that is.


Automatic qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will play in the national championship game.
2. The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10 and Southeastern Conferences automatically qualify for BCS games each year.
3. One team from among the champions of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference automatically qualify for a BCS game if either: A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or, B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
4. Notre Dame will automatically qualify for a BCS bowl if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.
5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team shall become an automatic qualifier.
6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if Step No. 5 has not been applied and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team shall become an automatic qualifier.
7. If any slots remain unfilled after the placement of all teams qualifying for an automatic berth, then the bowls shall choose their participants from the "pool of eligible teams" (see below.)

This year four at-large berths will be available, as opposed to the previous two
 
#89
#89
VolunteerHillbilly said:
Here's how I see the BCS shaping up:

Rose Ohio St/Mich loser vs. Notre Dame
Tostitos Big 12 Champion vs. Boise State OR SEC #2 OR ???
Orange ACC Champion vs. Big East Champion
Sugar UF/Arky winner vs. Big East #2 OR Wisconsin
Ntl. C-ship: Ohio St/Mich winner vs. USC

I guess there is a possibility for a 2-loss LSU or Arky but I would not be surprised to see Boise State get the nod. Do the BCS at-large slots have to be filled in order of BCS ranking?
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I can't imagine the Big 10 would get 3 teams (Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin) in.
 
#90
#90
utvol0427 said:
I can't imagine the Big 10 would get 3 teams (Michigan, Ohio St., Wisconsin) in.
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We know they will get 2. Ohio St. and Michigan are locks. One will play for the NC and the loser will almost certainly qualify under Rules 5 or 6 in Ootlewah's post. Wisky has one loss and is already #9 in the BCS and will move up to #6 at a minimum passing the losers of USC-ND, W.Va-Rutgers, and UF-Arky. Wisky will not lose to Buffalo. I think it's possible BUT it will be a tough choice between them and a 1-loss #2 Big East team, especially if W.Va is that team.
 
#93
#93
Say things work out that the SECCG winner ended up playing in the championship game. (Cal beats USC, USC beats ND, etc.) Would that mean that the SECCG loser would automatically get a slot in one of the four bowl games?

(That would help us out if so.)
 
#94
#94
GVF said:
If Texas wins the Big12 game. KState knocked 'em around.

Right now there are two 1 loss SEC. UF, Ark. Either of which is subject to not be before they meet in the SECCG. At which point outside the winner of that game, no other SEC team will have less than 2 losses, and therefore will not get into a BCS. A 2 loss SEC team will not see any BCS, in any season. Maybe from another conference, but not the SEC.
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Tennessee got into the BCS with 2 losses in 1999.
 
#95
#95
yep...as far as i know...i heard someone talking about that on ESPN or the Fox BCS show the other night...
 
#96
#96
Vercingetorix said:
Say things work out that the SECCG winner ended up playing in the championship game. (Cal beats USC, USC beats ND, etc.) Would that mean that the SECCG loser would automatically get a slot in one of the four bowl games?

(That would help us out if so.)
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If that happens its a lock that a SEC team would be in the Sugar bowl. But it might not be the SECCG loser. If LSU beats Arky and Arky loses to UF and a one loss Florida team makes the NCG then a two loss LSU team would jump a 3-loss Arky for the Sugar.
 
#97
#97
Vercingetorix said:
Say things work out that the SECCG winner ended up playing in the championship game. (Cal beats USC, USC beats ND, etc.) Would that mean that the SECCG loser would automatically get a slot in one of the four bowl games?

(That would help us out if so.)
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that is the key. If USC loses to Cal and/or ND...Cal wins the Pac 10 and goes to the Rose. ND's chances at title shot go way up...and then you have a 2 loss ARK, 3 loss LSU, 2-3 loss USC sitting there possibly available for at large bids.

it could be that there are at least two two loss teams getting bcs bids this year...lots left to do this season...
 
#98
#98
I cannot believe that I'm sitting here worrying about whether another SEC team will play for the championship, so that another one can play in the Sugar Bowl, so that enough slots are open that we won't fall all the way to the Music City Bowl. What has become of our program?
 
#100
#100
Vercingetorix said:
I cannot believe that I'm sitting here worrying about whether another SEC team will play for the championship, so that another one can play in the Sugar Bowl, so that enough slots are open that we won't fall all the way to the Music City Bowl. What has become of our program?
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Music City is NOT going to happen. Now that isn't saying that the Chicken Bowl is much better. We were a lock for the Outback if the dogs don't beat the war chickens.
 
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