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Denmark is going to start opening back up. So that’s good news.
Their restrictions started on March 11. So we might be able to extrapolate a timetable for us here. Obviously a little different with out spread out population, but hopefully the end is in sight.
 
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rjd970 said:
I don't understand. Today, obviously.

The plague killed indiscriminately as far as I know. CV primarily kills older and sick people. What is wrong with letting healthy folks get it now if they are going to get it later anyway? The vast majority will not die. And save me the anecdotal one-off stories....the statistics are clear that those with underlying conditions and the elderly are the most at risk, period. Let healthy folks go about their business and stay home when they get sick. Quarantine the sick and elderly. Build herd immunity. Get the economy going. Go back to normal.
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If you got it today, you’d be fine because we have the therapies in place.

If you get an emerging illness now or in a few weeks it could make a very big difference as to your outcome.

Statistics put the elderly at the most risk, but you are still looking at fairly high hospitalization rates for those infected in a lot of other demographics.
 
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GAVol said:
I’m all about reopening economies, but NY, NJ and CT holding a joint press conference about restarting the economy feels a little out of place.
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I suppose they have to set an example of responsibility, but I get what you mean. I'd say it will be considerably less about "reopening" and more emphasis on order and safety measures.
 
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Volsfaninva917 said:
Wow, see I knew it Purpletiger just gave this a like. Cheering on the virus and death
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The world is littered with stupid dead people. This person celebrated his stupidity and paid the ultimate price. He put everyone around him in danger including his wife. His death is a story of irony.
 
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GAVol said:
I’m all about reopening economies, but NY, NJ and CT holding a joint press conference about restarting the economy feels a little out of place. They’re clearly just trying to get out in front of any administration policy.
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Well the policy trump conveyed today is that states don't have the ability to do this anyway. More of a challenge than a get in front move
 
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Matt2496 said:
If true, that sounds engineered to me.
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I didn't see the article say it's permanent damage (although I just did a quick read). I would hope the T Cells come back once you've recovered. The problem with HIV is the virus just stays in your body killing T Cells.
 
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Mick said:
The world is littered with stupid dead people. This person celebrated his stupidity and paid the ultimate price. He put everyone around him in danger including his wife. His death is a story of irony.
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So wait, we celebrate this mans death and chalk him up to being stupid but the man who drank fish bowl cleaner my god thats trumps fault
 
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evillawyer said:
I didn't see the article say it's permanent damage (although I just did a quick read). I would hope the T Cells come back once you've recovered. The problem with HIV is the virus just stays in your body killing T Cells.
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You would replenish T cell supply. They usually only live a few months or years.
 
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GAVol said:
I’m all about reopening economies, but NY, NJ and CT holding a joint press conference about restarting the economy feels a little out of place. They’re clearly just trying to get out in front of any administration policy.
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I could see them saying "Trump doesn't set policy in our state and to prove it we are opening back up next week"
 
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Matt2496 said:
If true, that sounds engineered to me.
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I've never been anywhere close to 100% convinced this was generated out of a "wet market". Too much just doesn't add up. I'm always open to other possibilities, especially when we know the track record and modus operandi of the Chinese. Cover up, hide then distort and lie.
 
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West Vol said:
If you got it today, you’d be fine because we have the therapies in place.

If you get an emerging illness now or in a few weeks it could make a very big difference as to your outcome.

Statistics put the elderly at the most risk, but you are still looking at fairly high hospitalization rates for those infected in a lot of other demographics.
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For the bolded...disagree if you are young and healthy. Show me stats that say otherwise and I will listen. There is nothing I'm seeing that makes a material difference whether you get it now, or last week, or in a few weeks if you are young and healthy. The simple truth the fear peddlers don't want to admit is it is very very likely most either self-care at home or are asymptomatic...but we have no way to count those numbers. We are only reporting postitive cases and deaths.

What demographics are showing "high" hospitalization rates? What constitutes "high"? And if so, then fine, social distance them as well. For everybody else, get out and get back going about your life.

Why close everything down in a blanket order like this? I get doing that in the first couple of weeks but we know enough about this now where we can start targeting guidelines to those most at risk. At this point, we are just dragging it out for the healthy folks that it doesn't matter for and extending the threat timeline for those that it does...all while killing ourselves economically.
 
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West Vol said:
You would replenish T cell supply. They usually only live a few months or years.
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I did read that T cells diminish in regeneration after young adulthood, so they do regenerate, just not as quickly fwiw. Of further note, the article said that unlike HIV that could spread and destroy other T cells after entering, COVID 19 doesn't show the same trait. Apparently dies with the T cell it enters. So while those that cannot shed the virus and succumb probably do have organ damage as a result, it did not say that those who did shed the virus have existing or irreversible organ damage once they are well. Just what I took from it.
 
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