Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[NCFisher]

An emergency measure just passed that will require San Francisco to rent 7,000 hotel rooms to house its entire homeless population

I was going to make a bad joke about the toilets remaining pristine but the hallways/elevators will be mine fields, but hell, what if a few of them - able to bathe and groom daily and feel more human - actually get headed in the right direction?

They will need to increase security, especially for housekeeping personnel.

 

[LouderVol]

True but that's not how it will be reported during the election season

Agreed.

 

[0nelilreb]

An emergency measure just passed that will require San Francisco to rent 7,000 hotel rooms to house its entire homeless population

I can’t imagine what those places will look like when they are done with them and leave .

 

[TennTradition]

Because people have been released, it shows current hospitalizations.

Right.....so it isn't cumulative resource use and can't be compared to 490k for flu. Current hospitalizations is peak hospitalization (I didn't say new hospitalizations per day). You told me I was incorrect that it wasn't daily resource use but total. Now you are saying it is current. That is daily use.

A cumulative number would only go up - not drop down after you hit peak even with people being released.

So, why are we comparing these two numbers?

490k cumulative bed use not comparable to 56k daily bed use.

 

[luthervol]

Geraldine and Sarah say hello.

Didn't I say up until recently?
And you don't think Geraldine and Sarah were the result of identity politics?

 

[0nelilreb]

I figured that'd be the first thing to become widely available again, I've not been out in about a week to see. It's a good start.

They have TP also

 

[Stew Cook]

It's none of these dumbass governors/mayors place to tell people they have to wear a mask. I am happy to see people are starting to reach the peak of what they will take

You go, Justin! might as well ignore everything else why you are at it... Maybe Trump will sic Barr on this travesty.

 

[Stew Cook]

They have TP also

Also good news, although I've been stocked for a while now.

 

[volfanjustin]

You go, Justin! might as well ignore everything else why you are at it... Maybe Trump will sic Barr on this travesty.

he certainly should

 

[hog88]

Didn't I say up until recently?
And you don't think Geraldine and Sarah were the result of identity politics?

Just admit you forgot about them.

 

[Stew Cook]

he certainly should

Yeah, as if Trump would put your liberty over his reelection chances.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Right.....so it isn't cumulative resource use and can't be compared to 490k for flu. Current hospitalizations is peak hospitalization (I didn't say new hospitalizations per day). You told me I was incorrect that it wasn't daily resource use but total. Now you are saying it is current. That is daily use.

A cumulative number would only go up - not drop down after you hit peak even with people being released.

So, why are we comparing these two numbers?

490k cumulative bed use not comparable to 56k daily bed use.

The most people who have been hospitalized cumulative due to Coronavirus is 56K, that number is decreasing as time moves on. Not 56K people in 1 day, so over the course of 4 months of Coronoavirus 56K will have been hospitalized TOTAL.

 

[n_huffhines]

You're being told all presidents - and for that matter, politicians - are egomaniacal. It's not an endorsement of narcissism but a preference they'd rather see it.

You're saying you prefer the veneer.

I'm saying I prefer we not elect egomaniacs...and I think it's stupid to assume all people striving for the oval office are egomaniacs, so let's just accept this egomaniac.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

WWE releases five wrestlers, furloughs workers

 

[GoVols1998Yeah!]

I can’t imagine what those places will look like when they are done with them and leave .

What a nightmare for the staff. I worked at a hotel during the aftermath of hurricane Katrina, and the Red Cross put up some really rough characters who did a lot of damage. The hotel owners ended up eating it because they hated to bill the Red Cross for it.

 

[LouderVol]

Just give everyone $4K a month and we won’t have to go back to work at all.

Make Jeff Bezos pay for it.

Or what's left over from the Bloomberg campaign will make us all millionaires.

 

[TennTradition]

The most people who have been hospitalized cumulative due to Coronavirus is 56K, that number is decreasing as time moves on. Not 56K people in 1 day, so over the course of 4 months of Coronoavirus 56K will have been hospitalized TOTAL.

That's not what that is saying.

It is saying they estimate 56k beds will be in use on the peak day.

I agree that you cannot take each day's resource use, add them up, and get total people hospitalized over the course of wave 1. Because people use a bed for more than 1 day.

Without knowing the average time a person is hospitalized, you cannot convert the distribution curve of resource use from IHME to the cumulative hospitalizations curve for comparison to the 490k total (cumulative) hospitalizations (or hospital beds) used.

However, we do have data on average time of hospitalization for flu. So, I used that and information about hospitalization rate during peak flu season to estimate the peak resource (i.e., hospital bed) use for flu.

 

[volfanhill]

San Fran get their own money printing machine?

It appears so

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Also good news, although I've been stocked for a while now.

Good because you are FOS.

 

[Volsfaninva917]

That's not what that is saying.

It is saying they estimate 56k beds will be in use on the peak day.

I agree that you cannot take each day's resource use, add them up, and get total people hospitalized over the course of wave 1. Because people use a bed for more than 1 day.

Without knowing the average time a person is hospitalized, you cannot convert the distribution curve of resource use from IHME to the cumulative hospitalizations curve for comparison to the 490k total (cumulative) hospitalizations (or hospital beds) used.

However, we do have data on average time of hospitalization for flu. So, I used that and information about hospitalization rate during peak flu season to estimate the peak resource (i.e., hospital bed) use for flu.

Point is, these lock downs are going to extreme measures that aren't needed.

 

[Stew Cook]

Good because you are FOS.

I really don't need it. I have thousands of pine cones

 

[0nelilreb]

Does Pelosi’s big estate and house not have extra rooms ? I’ll bet she could fit 5-7 homeless people in there until it’s over .

 

[GreyWolf1129]

I can’t imagine what those places will look like when they are done with them and leave .

Just went and looked in my "It's California, do I really care?" bucket...

Nope, not one drop.

 

[TennTradition]

Point is, these lock downs are going to extreme measures that aren't needed.

You cannot draw that from the statistics you posted.

You also cannot draw that conclusion in a declarative fashion without having confidence in what the alternative would be.

Given the butchering on the interpretation of the peak resource use and its comparison to flu, I'm not sure what to make of your opinion that the lock downs aren't (weren't?) needed.

 

[Stew Cook]

I can’t imagine what those places will look like when they are done with them and leave .

Jeez, I know... homeless people don't know how to use a shower and put their poops on the floor of hotel rooms instead of a toilet.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of Spring Breakers... nm