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It is sad that we will never know how many folks actually died FROM this virus. They are only counting those who died WITH the antibodies for this virus, regardless of what underlying medical problems existed...or what the actual CAUSE of death was.

Despite this obvious deception, I believe strongly that the over reaction and panic created by the MSM will be remembered as just that...panic...even though we know that the talking heads of the MSM will never speak of it. There are plenty of other voices on the internet that will be honest and condemn what has been done to both our economy and our rights as individuals.

Shame on the Dems or anyone else who tries to use this situation as a political smear campaign. Even more shame on the Dems who seek to wreck our economy in order to keep Trump from being elected again. They know that Biden is a wet noodle with no real skills to bring to the table. He looks and sounds like dementia has a stranglehold on him at every turn. He endorsed the Green New Deal for Pete's sake, knowing it is a coloring book for wayward kids...just to try and get the Bernie Bros on his side. What a clown.

I understand and agree with the sentiment, but let’s be honest, Trump isn’t exactly helping himself either. He needs to shut his big mouth and stay off Twitter.
 
Ironic considering that NYC is pretty much the “Box “ that’s holding up the country .

WTF? Florida has had over 30,000 cases and over 1,000 deaths. The actual number of cases is of course much higher, but due to Trump administration incompetence we don't have the materials to test like we should to get a sense of how many more.
 
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A fair debate can be had as to how to count cases and how to decidd which deaths were "caused by" the virus. Most people die with co-morbidities, so that type of debate has been around forever.

But anyone who believes that this is a conspiracy to crush the economy simply to get rid of Trump is a complete fool.
I in no way think this is a conspiracy, but I absolutely believe the left has chosen to use a tragedy as a political tool to get rid of Trump. I think you'd quickly forgive a Dem President in the same situation.
 
If he would come out and say he misspoke, instead of dumb dodges like he had proffered so far, I think it would fade as a story in a day or two.

But as long as he sits in the corner and fumes like the 5 year old he is, its not going away.
This I can almost agree with. He should just say he misspoke, but the media would continue to hound, no matter what.
 
Nah, if some are so sure of it, then I guess those same people have to admit it's a plausible excuse.

Regardless, disabilities are not a disqualifier, especially for replacing Trump.

I’m sure of the dementia part but that’s only from times that he is in public . To know for a fact you have to around them on the daily and or just wait because it will get to the point that you can’t cover it up . I’m betting we will all know within the next 4 years . I have a sneaking suspicion as to why Obama tried to talk him out of it and was the last big player to endorse him . ( IMO only )
 
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It’s folks like you that personally had me terrified of the thought of Bernie Sanders being the nominee. If he had gotten it 40+% of America would’ve openly supported socialism/communism purely because:

A.) They are only going to vote Dem. Period.
B.) They have such hatred for Trump they’d vote for anyone but him.

This should have scared the living daylights out of any American. It sure scared the DNC.
So it’s scary for me to do it, but not when someone says they’d vote for someone just because they’re not a Dem? Hypocrisy much?
 
WTF? Florida has had over 30,000 cases and over 1,000 deaths. The actual number of cases is of course much higher, but due to Trump administration incompetence we don't have the materials to test like we should to get a sense of how many more.
No administration would have. Obama would have been much worse but you would be praising him and sniffing his butt as you walked behind him.:)
 
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WTF? Florida has had over 30,000 cases and over 1,000 deaths. The actual number of cases is of course much higher, but due to Trump administration incompetence we don't have the materials to test like we should to get a sense of how many more.

Wait you mean to tell me that that a city with a pop of 8 mill. has ran over 500k tests and the state of Florida with a pop of 21 mill. has only ran 289k because of Trumps lack of getting out test kits?
 
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I in no way think this is a conspiracy, but I absolutely believe the left has chosen to use a tragedy as a political tool to get rid of Trump. I think you'd quickly forgive a Dem President in the same situation.


Two things:

First, it is objectively a true fact that at best Trump's reaction to the virus has been mixed and confusing. On the one hand he acted fairly early to block people coming in from China. On the other hand he made numerous unjustified comments severely minimizing the virus.

Then, and to his credit, he ended up conceding the seriousness of it to the scientists and professionals. But even then, often in the same press conference, he insisted and still does insist on making unjustified and overly rosy comments about the status of things.

One need only look at the comments of Marcus or others on here to see the effect. This irrational persistence in underestimating the virus is directly encouraged and promoted by Trump himself. A good President would disavow that thinking and explain, even to his base, why its mistaken.

Second, IF Trump would confess that he was wrong and defer to the professionals completely, I'd be more forgiving. But he won't. At least not consistently, as described above.
 
Two things:

First, it is objectively a true fact that at best Trump's reaction to the virus has been mixed and confusing. On the one hand he acted fairly early to block people coming in from China. On the other hand he made numerous unjustified comments severely minimizing the virus
Then, and to his credit, he ended up conceding the seriousness of it to the scientists and professionals. But even then, often in the same press conference, he insisted and still does insist on making unjustified and overly rosy comments
One need only look at the comments of Marcus or others on here to see the effect. This irrational persistence in underestimating the virus is directly encouraged and promoted by Trump himself. A good President would disavow that thinking and explain, even to his base, why its mistaken.

Second, IF Trump would confess that he was wrong and defer to the professionals completely, I'd be more forgiving. But he won't. At least not consistently, as described above.

I’ll bet a quarter he doesn’t care if you are “more forgiving “towards him . If he read any or your posts or threads , I know for a fact I’d have two quarters in my pocket . Lol
 
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I’m sure of the dementia part but that’s only from times that he is in public . To know for a fact you have to around them on the daily and or just wait because it will get to the point that you can’t cover it up . I’m better we will all know within the next 4 years . I have a sneaking suspicion as to why Obama tried to talk him out of it and was the last big player to endorse him .

Well, I won't dismiss the possibility. You've theorized dementia and Parkinson's with anecdotal evidence, while others suggest he is completely incoherent.

Worst case, if it is, in fact, some degenerative disease, and not just a benign condition causing his stuttering to reemerge, that should be apparent, as you say.

He could probably be in a coma and still be elected. But that's just the Trump effect.
 
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Well, I won't dismiss the possibility. You've theorized dementia and Parkinson's with anecdotal evidence, while others suggest he is completely incoherent.

Worst case, if it is, in fact, some degenerative disease, and not just benign condition causing his stuttering to reemerge, that should be apparent, as you say.

He could probably be in a coma and still be elected.
And still be better than Trump.
 
It is sad that we will never know how many folks actually died FROM this virus. They are only counting those who died WITH the antibodies for this virus, regardless of what underlying medical problems existed...or what the actual CAUSE of death was.

Despite this obvious deception, I believe strongly that the over reaction and panic created by the MSM will be remembered as just that...panic...even though we know that the talking heads of the MSM will never speak of it. There are plenty of other voices on the internet that will be honest and condemn what has been done to both our economy and our rights as individuals.

Shame on the Dems or anyone else who tries to use this situation as a political smear campaign. Even more shame on the Dems who seek to wreck our economy in order to keep Trump from being elected again. They know that Biden is a wet noodle with no real skills to bring to the table. He looks and sounds like dementia has a stranglehold on him at every turn. He endorsed the Green New Deal for Pete's sake, knowing it is a coloring book for wayward kids...just to try and get the Bernie Bros on his side. What a clown.

I think cdc allows you to count anyone presumed to have died with Covid without a positive test. That’s why New York added like 4K one day in the middle of April.
 
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