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Michigan's stay-at-home order does NOT infringe on constitutional rights, rules judge as he threw out a lawsuit filed against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that tried to reverse her decision to lock down the state

Michigan's stay-at-home order imposed during the coronavirus outbreak does not infringe on constitutional rights, according to a judge's ruling that threw out a lawsuit filed against Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.

Court of Claims Judge Christopher M. Murray denied granting an injunction of the governor's March 24th order requested in the lawsuit filed by five state residents.

Judge Murray, however, said the residents' claims that the order infringed on their constitutional rights were not strong enough due to the severity of the pandemic.

Reversing the order 'would not serve the public interest, despite the temporary harm to plaintiffs' constitutional rights,' wrote the judge in the court ruling.


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The ruling came down as armed demonstrators descended on the state's capitol demanding Michigan be reopened. A protester yells at Michigan State Police after protesters occupied the state capitol building Thursday

Michigan's stay-at-home order does NOT infringe on constitutional rights, rules judge | Daily Mail Online
 
What's up with meat plants being hit hard and not other manufacturing businesses?
Probably because other manufacturing businesses have been shut down.

Now, having said that, are these people asymptomatic and/or showing antibodies or are these 900 people showing symptoms and sick?
 
Coronavirus Patient Dead after Medical RESIDENTS set ventilator too high

A New York coronavirus patient died after inexperienced medical students rushed to the front line of the pandemic set her ventilator too high, according to a report.

The patient, who was in her 60s, was being cared for on an overnight shift at Montefiore Hospital in the Bronx last month by family medicine residents, who were not properly trained in how to use the respiratory support machine, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Medical residents are doctors-in-training who have graduated from medical school but are training for a specialty under the supervision of a senior physician. As family medicine residents, the young doctors typically wouldn’t work in an intensive care unit on critically ill patients — but as hospitals became overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, they were thrust into roles they weren’t prepared for.

So when the patient’s illness worsened dramatically overnight and the residents hooked her up to a ventilator, they accidentally turned the device up too high — stopping her heart, according to the paper.

When a critical care physician rushed to the room, the doctors-in-training admitted they didn’t know how to properly work the settings on the ventilator.

The disturbing incident is just one of several reported by the Wall Street Journal. Other residents — such as those training to be dentists, ophthalmologists, podiatrists and psychiatrists — have also been pushed to the front line because the city’s doctors are stretched desperately thin.

At Yale New Haven Hospital in Connecticut, anesthesiology residents were sent to work as respiratory therapists — a licensed job that requires at least two years of training — after just one Zoom session and a Google document that instructed them to call an attending physician if they needed help, according to the paper.

And at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia, a resident admitted to being afraid that patients were being treated like “guinea pigs.”

Hospital officials contacted by the paper said the coronavirus crisis has created extraordinary conditions for all staff members, prompting an all-hands-on-deck response.

Montefiore Medical Center didn’t return a request for comment, according to the paper.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/coron...er-medical-residents-set-ventilator-too-high/
 
Whoa... wait a minute. I think the truth may rest somewhere in the middle. Technically, the virus may have originated in a US lab. But, the virus could have been easily sent to Wuhan and it got loose. I think the Chines are being clever in saying that the virus source was the United States.
Who cares. They released it however then covered it up.
 
Oh you’re talking about the protestors. I thought you meant the government.

Doesn’t she have like a 70% approval rating for how she’s handled it?

I don’t know but if they are voting to stop the emergency act then I’m assuming she’s losing confidence.
 
Does anybody know anybody that has had this virus? I work in Healthcare IT. I speak regularly with people in the following areas:

Austin
Houston
Las Vegas
Salt Lake City
Tampa

Nobody I speak with knows anyone that has been impacted. I have friends and acquaintances that have provided third-hand accounts. No real details. Seems strange.

I work with a guy who had it. His wife had it. Several of their friends did.

A friend from high school had it.

I work with another guy whose mother, father, two brothers, and 95 year old grandmother had it.

I work with a guy whose sister died from it.

I work with another guy whose (pretty much) entire extended family had it. His uncle died from it.
 
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The protestors didn’t do anything wrong and the cops weren’t “trigger happy”. Lol quit with the anti gun fantasies. This is what normal Americans do. Exercise their 1st and 2nd Amendments
Right. Next time I get aggravated about any little thing I'll be sure to show up wearing an Anonymous mask, carrying a rifle. I'm sure the Red Hats would love and support that.
 
I didn't know until listening to some of Bernie's words that people still used the words "establishment" and "the man," honestly.
You haven't been paying attention then honestly. Establishment gets brought up constantly. I'll give you the man bit, that is a bit dated on my part.
 
China Continues to Push Conspiracy Theory That U.S. Was Source of Coronavirus

Leftist media in US idolize this level of propaganda and yearn for more power to silence dissenters beyond even CCP levels

CNN=Chinese News Network
NBC=National Broadcasts of China
CBS=Chinese Broadcast Station
ABC=All Broadcasting China

If you look at my Facebook feed, 30% of them had CV back in Nov/Dec and it was probably here before then. So maybe China is onto something....
 
I work with a guy who had it. His wife had it. Several of their friends did.

A friend from high school had it.

I work with another guy whose mother, father, two brothers, and 95 year old grandmother had it.

I work with a guy whose sister died from it.

I work with another guy whose (pretty much) entire extended family and it. His uncle doesn’t of it.

Damn, man... you alone know more people that had it than everyone I know and everyone I have talked to...
 
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Lol Zep hasn’t responded, I just assumed he went out to smoke and do some shots of whiskey to calm down enough to type words other than {<%^=€|\•¥
I was spending some time with my folks and sister, if you must know. Now I'm smoking and slamming whiskey.
 
Mmmm. Yep, don't want to forget that one. That's the one that really ties the room together.

With all that said, other than my coworker, I wouldn’t say anyone I’m close to these days has had it - to my knowledge.

I’m a little suspicious I might have had it, but I’m 90% leaning toward no. I flew to Calgary in the first week of March. Multiple flights arrived at the international terminal that day had infected people on them according to the airlines. By the time I got back 5 days later I had a sore throat. I was then down for about three days and couldn’t get out of bed. Sick as a dog. But symptoms don’t line up. I think it was just a bad cold - some other CV most likely. But I will get antibody tested when reliable ones make their way to market.
 
Coronavirus Patient Dead after Medical RESIDENTS set ventilator too high

A New York coronavirus patient died after inexperienced medical students rushed to the front line of the pandemic set her ventilator too high, according to a report.

The patient, who was in her 60s, was being cared for on an overnight shift at Montefiore Hospital in the Bronx last month by family medicine residents, who were not properly trained in how to use the respiratory support machine, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Medical residents are doctors-in-training who have graduated from medical school but are training for a specialty under the supervision of a senior physician. As family medicine residents, the young doctors typically wouldn’t work in an intensive care unit on critically ill patients — but as hospitals became overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients, they were thrust into roles they weren’t prepared for.

So when the patient’s illness worsened dramatically overnight and the residents hooked her up to a ventilator, they accidentally turned the device up too high — stopping her heart, according to the paper.

When a critical care physician rushed to the room, the doctors-in-training admitted they didn’t know how to properly work the settings on the ventilator.

The disturbing incident is just one of several reported by the Wall Street Journal. Other residents — such as those training to be dentists, ophthalmologists, podiatrists and psychiatrists — have also been pushed to the front line because the city’s doctors are stretched desperately thin.

At Yale New Haven Hospital in Connecticut, anesthesiology residents were sent to work as respiratory therapists — a licensed job that requires at least two years of training — after just one Zoom session and a Google document that instructed them to call an attending physician if they needed help, according to the paper.

And at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia, a resident admitted to being afraid that patients were being treated like “guinea pigs.”

Hospital officials contacted by the paper said the coronavirus crisis has created extraordinary conditions for all staff members, prompting an all-hands-on-deck response.

Montefiore Medical Center didn’t return a request for comment, according to the paper.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/30/coron...er-medical-residents-set-ventilator-too-high/
Terrible hospital leadership and planning yet again. Thank God I don’t work for one of these northeastern hospital systems
 
With all that said, other than my coworker, I wouldn’t say anyone I’m close to these days has had it - to my knowledge.

I’m a little suspicious I might have had it, but I’m 90% leaning toward no. I flew to Calgary in the first week of March. Multiple flights arrived at the international terminal that day had infected people on them according to the airlines. By the time I got back 5 days later I had a sore throat. I was then down for about three days and couldn’t get out of bed. Sick as a dog. But symptoms don’t line up. I think it was just a bad cold - some other CV most likely. But I will get antibody tested when reliable ones make their way to market.

I though too I had it. Last week, went to a sushi joint that is normally good. No more. They gave me a to-go order of sushi that was epic levels of God-forsaken bad. Guessing it was several days old. Might sue. Considering options there. Explosive D in a toilet paper crisis raises stress to levels that first-world folk should never have to know. Anyway, glad you're OK, man.
 

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