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BennesseeVols said:
No, you are making your own choice to work because, i assume, you have to provide for yourself and family. You can't make that choice if your business is forced to shutdown. If the risks of working your job outweigh the compensation you recieve for performing it, then by all means quit and move to a different career field. Same thing goes for parks etc, they should be open for whoever feels the benefits of going outweigh the risks. If you want to lock yourself inside your house and hide from the world, you're free to do so. Sounds like too many mommies and daddies didn't teach the valuable lesson of personal responsibility and that you have to deal with the consequences of the choices you make. You chose to work in a hospital, you're going be around sick people, deal with it.
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Pridefully ignorant and self absorbed... all too common now-a-days. Good for you man, go wreak all the simpleton havoc your heart desires.
 
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#52,779
NCFisher said:
Again, I'm already familiar with the report and memo, thanks, and rightly assumed that TDSers would try to write off the industrial-grade abuse directed at the Trump campaign. It goes beyond sloppiness:

"My own view is that the evidence shows that we're not dealing with just the mistakes or sloppiness," Barr told host Laura Ingraham. "There was something far more troubling here. We're going to get to the bottom of it. And if people broke the law and we can establish that with the evidence, they will be prosecuted."

Trump "has every right to be frustrated" by the investigation, Barr added.

"What happened to him was one of the greatest travesties in American history -- without any basis," Barr said. "They started this investigation of his campaign. And even more concerning, actually, is what happened after the campaign. A whole pattern of events while he was president ... to sabotage the presidency ... or at least have the effect of sabotaging the presidency."

During Thursday's show Barr also addressed what he described as abuse of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), saying he believed "safeguards" would "enable us to go forward with this important tool."

" I think it's very sad and the people who abused FISA have a lot to answer for," he said, "because this was an important tool to protect the American people.

"They abused it. They undercut public confidence in FISA but also the FBI is an institution and we have to rebuild that."

Barr isn't winging this, it's what Durham's investigations are telling him.

Just in: Michael Flynn says "Thanks for nothing, Justin"
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Thanks for validating Amash’s comments about Bill Barr. Let’s take it a step further:

How come Bill Barr can’t let any independent judges handle these obviously impermissible cases?

I mean, if it’s so obvious that these poor innocent trump toadies were being railroaded why has not one single independent fact finder made that determination?

Every. Single. Time. That the courts or a jury has been handed evidence from this investigation the result has been a conviction. The only vindicating events for the people who believe in this have been the result of DOJ brass (Bill Barr) involvement.

He can’t leave it in the hands of Judges because they’re impartial and the things he’s saying are legal fiction. The public record speaks for itself and the public record shows that when Trump Co’s minions go in front of judge or jury, they lose.

The rest of the post seems devoid of any relation to what I’ve said. Pretty weak, IMO, but maybe I wasn’t clear. I’ll just clarify and restate what I said.

The omissions/errors/fabrications in the Carter Page FISA application, regardless of materiality (which hasn’t been established), are evidence that the FBI cannot be afforded the discretion they have been. They do not absolve Trump of anything. They are not evidence of Trump et al’s innocence, they’re simply evidence of wrongdoing by someone else. The case have no heightened significance. Its being used as a scapegoat to deflect attention from evidence of Trump’s corruption.

The omissions/errors/fabrications in 29/29 other applications are overwhelming evidence that FBI and law enforcement discretion should be limited or subject to more thorough oversight. It also proves that the Page App wasn’t a coup.

That is the logical line between the best I can recall of Amash’s explanation of his thoughts on the Special Counsel investigation and the tweet that I spent 30 seconds finding this afternoon.

The other argument, which seems to have you horribly confused, is not that Trump deserved it, but that Trump’s position is less desirable than Amash’s, and yet is not disqualifying to you. Therefore your shrieking about Amash and your hysterical, performative nonsense about how much you care about “our rights,” just doesn’t move the needle. It doesn’t carry any weight because as I’ve said in several posts now: the issues is clearly all partisan and no principle, for you.
 
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OHvol40 said:
That’s my point. Idiots who, for whatever reason, can’t sit still, aren’t choosing for themselves. They’re choosing for myself, my coworkers, my other patients and my family. Seems like too many mommies and daddies didn’t teach the valuable lesson that your actions not only affect yourself, but others around you. That’s why I say the sense of community in America is dead, individualism reigns. This bears out in almost every facet of American life in 2020, this is just another symptom.
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Learn to code.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Thanks for validating Amash’s comments about Bill Barr. Let’s take it a step further:

How come Bill Barr can’t let any independent judges handle these obviously impermissible cases?

I mean, if it’s so obvious that these poor innocent trump toadies were being railroaded why has not one single independent fact finder made that determination?

Every. Single. Time. That the courts or a jury has been handed evidence from this investigation the result has been a conviction. The only vindicating events for the people who believe in this have been the result of DOJ brass (Bill Barr) involvement.

He can’t leave it in the hands of Judges because they’re impartial and the things he’s saying are legal fiction. The public record speaks for itself and the public record shows that when Trump Co’s minions go in front of judge or jury, they lose.

The rest of the post seems devoid of any relation to what I’ve said. Pretty weak, IMO, but maybe I wasn’t clear. I’ll just clarify and restate what I said.

The omissions/errors/fabrications in the Carter Page FISA application, regardless of materiality (which hasn’t been established), are evidence that the FBI cannot be afforded the discretion they have been. They do not absolve Trump of anything. They are not evidence of Trump et al’s innocence, they’re simply evidence of wrongdoing by someone else. The case have no heightened significance. Its being used as a scapegoat to deflect attention from evidence of Trump’s corruption.

The omissions/errors/fabrications in 29/29 other applications are overwhelming evidence that FBI and law enforcement discretion should be limited or subject to more thorough oversight. It also proves that the Page App wasn’t a coup.

That is the logical line between the best I can recall of Amash’s explanation of his thoughts on the Special Counsel investigation and the tweet that I spent 30 seconds finding this afternoon.

The other argument, which seems to have you horribly confused, is not that Trump deserved it, but that Trump’s position is less desirable than Amash’s, and yet is not disqualifying to you. Therefore your shrieking about Amash and your hysterical, performative nonsense about how much you care about “our rights,” just doesn’t move the needle. It doesn’t carry any weight because as I’ve said in several posts now: the issues is clearly all partisan and no principle, for you.
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Have you heard of the term, “Gish Gallop?”
 
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vols40 said:
It's all he's got today after the Flynn exoneration
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"Exoneration"? Trump told Barr that there was enough political cover working against the FBI now to drop the case against Flynn... and so he did. That is hardly an exoneration... but who really cares about this anyway?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
"Exoneration"? Trump told Barr that there was enough political cover working against the FBI now to drop the case against Flynn... and so he did. That is hardly an exoneration... but who really cares about this anyway?
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So a lead prosecutor (Mueller lawyer hack) resigns before Barr does anything and it's all of a sudden nothing? I'll tell you what's nothing Russian Collusion. Get ready. Roger Stone is on deck. You hacks who think that it's nothing to ruin an American citizen like this do not deserve to live in this country. There is no way I could ever stand for this orchestrated destruction if an American citizen simply because of the party affiliation he had. If you can sleep well knowing the FBI was right then hey it's on you. But just remember that President Trump could put the general in charge of the FBI and "reassigned" this Wray tool.
 
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vols40 said:
So a lead prosecutor (Mueller lawyer hack) resigns before Barr does anything and it's all of a sudden nothing? I'll tell you what's nothing Russian Collusion. Get ready. Roger Stone is on deck. You hacks who think that it's nothing to ruin an American citizen like this do not deserve to live in this country. There is no way I could ever stand for this orchestrated destruction if an American citizen simply because of the party affiliation he had. If you can sleep well knowing the FBI was right then hey it's on you. But just remember that President Trump could put the general in charge of the FBI and "reassigned" this Wray tool.
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Aside from what he had plead guilty to, Michael Flynn has also admitted that he was working as an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey in 2016. He had conflicts of interest all over the place. Flynn is not the innocent, doe-eyed, little deer in the woods that you are making him out to be.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Aside from what he had plead guilty to, Michael Flynn was also working as an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey in 2016. He had conflicts of interest all over the place. Flynn is not the innocent, doe-eyed, little deer in the woods that you are making him out to be.
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Stop with the reaching. The facts are clear in this case the f. .ing FBI was of the mind they had nothing but hacks refused to back off. GTFO here with your Turkey bs.
 
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#52,793
vols40 said:
Stop with the reaching. The facts are clear in this case the f. .ing FBI was of the mind they had nothing but hacks refused to back off. GTFO here with your Turkey bs.
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It's not reaching. Flynn has admitted that he was working as an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey in 2016. The conflicts of interest were very real and are easily proven.
 
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vols40 said:
Ok then why did the FBI note in handwritten notes that they had nothing then hold on to the documents until recently?
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Why has Flynn admitted that he was working as an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey in 2016? Because he was and it has been proven.
 
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#52,800
BowlBrother85 said:
33.5 million Americans have filed for unemployment benefits in the last 7 weeks. Assuming that 165 million people are in the U.S. labor force, that is 20%. That is staggering. What would we do without a genius like Trump calling the shots?
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How is Trump calling the shots? It's the governors forcing businesses to close
 
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