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#529
If this is man made...it would explain some of what has been posted about it being so deadly and mutating so quickly. I really hope this isnt true.

What are the odds that the Chinese deadly virus lab just happens to be where the outbreak occurred?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
If this is man made...it would explain some of what has been posted about it being so deadly and mutating so quickly. I really hope this isnt true.

What are the odds that the Chinese deadly virus lab just happens to be where the outbreak occurred?
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I’m definitely seeing questions raised around the medical/scientific community concerning the length of the asymptomatic contagious incubation period of up to 14 days combined with H2H transfer and how that isn’t generally considered a normal occurrence.
For example. Sars incubation was generally 2-7 days (3-5 average) with symptoms presenting during incubation. Measles symptoms normally show up within 7-14 days of exposure and folks are contagious from 4 days prior to 4 days after the initial rash presents.

The issue seems to be the data the CCP has released so far and the lax (intentional or otherwise) tracking of attributing factual causes of death. It really makes it difficult to ascertain an accurate estimate of R0 to determine exactly how contagious this is and the R0 is somewhat of a moving target during an outbreak anyhow as data fluctuates.

The global cases I’ve been seeing reported are directly travel related to China so far. There’s a probability that due to that lengthy incubation period involved we just haven’t seen presentations of 3rd, 4th and beyond levels of infection in the rest of the world. I think the next several weeks will tell us a lot about this virus.

As far as that lab..it appears we (USA) warned them of the possibility of a virus escaping a while back.

Like I said earlier in a post, I’m just a laymen parsing thru the inter web bs to find corroborated data from various world sources. If multiple experts around the globe are saying it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it’s probably a damn duck. I’m just trying to bring info here so y’all can do your own follow ups and become as informed as you want to be.
 
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DynaLo said:
I’m definitely seeing questions raised around the medical/scientific community concerning the length of the asymptomatic contagious incubation period of up to 14 days combined with H2H transfer and how that isn’t generally considered a normal occurrence.
For example. Sars incubation was generally 2-7 days (3-5 average) with symptoms presenting during incubation. Measles symptoms normally show up within 7-14 days of exposure and folks are contagious from 4 days prior to 4 days after the initial rash presents.

The issue seems to be the data the CCP has released so far and the lax (intentional or otherwise) tracking of attributing factual causes of death. It really makes it difficult to ascertain an accurate estimate of R0 to determine exactly how contagious this is and the R0 is somewhat of a moving target during an outbreak anyhow as data fluctuates.

The global cases I’ve been seeing reported are directly travel related to China so far. There’s a probability that due to that lengthy incubation period involved we just haven’t seen presentations of 3rd, 4th and beyond levels of infection in the rest of the world. I think the next several weeks will tell us a lot about this virus.

As far as that lab..it appears we (USA) warned them of the possibility of a virus escaping a while back.

Like I said earlier in a post, I’m just a laymen parsing thru the inter web bs to find corroborated data from various world sources. If multiple experts around the globe are saying it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it’s probably a damn duck. I’m just trying to bring info here so y’all can do your own follow ups and become as informed as you want to be.
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Everything I’ve heard was that this started at the animal market but I’ve read twice now that some experts are saying that isn’t the case now. So if it didn’t come from the market, where then did it originate?

Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally
 
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Burhead said:
Everything I’ve heard was that this started at the animal market but I’ve read twice now that some experts are saying that isn’t the case now. So if it didn’t come from the market, where then did it originate?

Wuhan seafood market may not be source of novel virus spreading globally
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That seems to be the million dollar question.

I personally find it head scratching that it took months to get the genome sequence on Sars yet China has already produced the genome sequence for this one when the first reported case was in early December.
 
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#536
So Wuhan was the city that this originated from and now it's completely locked down. They said they're building one hospital a couple days ago and now they're building two more for a total of three hospitals. Beijing is 100's of miles away from Wuhan but restaurants are checking people's temperatures and handing out mandatory hand sanitizer before you can even go in. This video is from 2 days ago:
Beijing Streets Empty After Outbreak

On top of that they're now talking about the virus having a 14 day incubation period, that is long.
 
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#542
I think it's a mistake this isn't getting more coverage in the media. Scrolling through CNN, MSNBC, and Foxnews and none of the are talking about this virus. Fox has a scroller at the bottom mentioning it but other than that it's pretty much impeachment/Kobe.

I've seen more talk about the Wuhan coronavirus on Bloomberg financial channel because of its effects in the markets.
 
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TheDeeble said:
I think it's a mistake this isn't getting more coverage in the media. Scrolling through CNN, MSNBC, and Foxnews and none of the are talking about this virus. Fox has a scroller at the bottom mentioning it but other than that it's pretty much impeachment/Kobe.

I've seen more talk about the Wuhan coronavirus on Bloomberg financial channel because of its effects in the markets.
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Avoiding panic. Just like they dont fact check in order to be the first and push sales. Talking bad news is bad for business. And it's hard to push a political angle.
 
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#544
Citizens are showing up in Jiujiang China at a mask producer to get masks directly. Sounds like a shortage of supplies.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Citizens are showing up in Jiujiang China at a mask producer to get masks directly. Sounds like a shortage of supplies.
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There’s been a shortage in China for days now. A lot of US retailers are out of stock or have limited stock and China seems to be a large US supplier of masks. Saw a blurb saying the US supply is being purchased and sent to family members in China.

If you think you might want to have some masks on hand for a just in case scenario you might not want to wait on that purchase...besides they’re always usable for other things if not medically needed. Great when spray painting, sanding wood, spraying insecticides or leaf blowing if one has issues with dust particles.
 
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