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#576
Matt2496 said:
It's already in our country. I don't think locking down airports would do much of anything other than create chaos, panic, and hysteria.
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If it stays isolated and can be contained, we'll be OK.
 
#577
#577
ETV said:
If it stays isolated and can be contained, we'll be OK.
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How do you isolate and contain something that has an asymptomatic contagion period of up to 14 days?

R0 has been all over the place from just under 2 upwards towards 4. Nobody really knows due to the craptastic data coming out of China.

Once we start seeing 3rd level and beyond infections we’ll all know more about it.

Here’s my kicker though. I grew up in the era of a closed off China and even with seeing them open up, the politics there hasn’t changed much in decades. For China to lose global face with the big time extremely public quarantine measures it has taken tells me one thing. This virus is a potential mofo and they damn well know it.
 
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#580
I've read, I think on here, that some people are just carriers, don't show symptoms or only mild symptoms. Is that correct to the best of our knowledge?
 
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#582
I know this seems worse than SARS and MERS. However, I cant help but think social media and the mobile connection to EVERYTHING around the world, is sparking more fear than necessary.

With that said, there are alot of details that support this being a major problem such as shutting down a city, building more temporary hospitals, the early numbers, etc. Misinformation is out there but which part is misinformation? Crazy.
 
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I don’t think it’s doom and gloom time yet, but it never hurts to keep an out for what can kill you.

When I lived in hurricane zones, every May I packed plastic crates with the hope I’d never need them and that I could unpack the nonperishables every November. I ended up needing those crates to take care of my family 3 different times. I’d much rather be prepared than have my bits hanging out in the wind and the bright side, I don’t have to hit the grocery store very often if I don’t want to.

For anybody that doesn’t take being ready for anything seriously, even just nasty unpredictable weather, all I can say is find yourself a Mormon and make them your bestest best friend.
 
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#584
davethevol said:
If the incubation is up to 2 weeks and this is highly contagious, it will be impossible to contain this now.
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You'd have to get everyone that was on the plane with said person, everyone that was in contact with said person at the departure airport, arrival airport, and any connecting airports. You're talking about the possible people being infected increasing exponentially. That, coupled with the fact that it can possibly be 14 days before symptoms arrive, make containing it extremely difficult. The questions I guess still out there are how contagious is it, and what's the mortality rate.
 
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#586
I saw a story this morning about the Chinese building two temporary hospitals in the main affected area. Something like 2500 beds added. They got the first one up in 16 hours.
 
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#587
lawgator1 said:
I saw a story this morning about the Chinese building two temporary hospitals in the main affected area. Something like 2500 beds added. They got the first one up in 16 hours.
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China takes the Sim City approach to construction.

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lawgator1 said:
I saw a story this morning about the Chinese building two temporary hospitals in the main affected area. Something like 2500 beds added. They got the first one up in 16 hours.
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They sure have those prefab buildings down to a science and it’s not like they expect these to be long term structures anyhow, so as long as they’re safe enough to handle the task of a hospital build, build, build.
 
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utvols88 said:
I know this seems worse than SARS and MERS. However, I cant help but think social media and the mobile connection to EVERYTHING around the world, is sparking more fear than necessary.

With that said, there are alot of details that support this being a major problem such as shutting down a city, building more temporary hospitals, the early numbers, etc. Misinformation is out there but which part is misinformation? Crazy.
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It can be a curse and a blessing. On one hand certainly it can stoke paranoia that's unfounded. Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe on the internet/social media. On the other though, the ability to communicate can drastically reduce the reaction times of medical authorities. Think back to some of the epidemics of the past. I'd guess the ability to communicate with other areas and people directly would have significantly reduced illness due to increased awareness and response time.
 
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TheDeeble said:
It can be a curse and a blessing. On one hand certainly it can stoke paranoia that's unfounded. Sometimes it's hard to know what to believe on the internet/social media. On the other though, the ability to communicate can drastically reduce the reaction times of medical authorities. Think back to some of the epidemics of the past. I'd guess the ability to communicate with other areas and people directly would have significantly reduced illness due to increased awareness and response time.
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Exactly. That's the gist of todays internet.
 
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Septic said:
Mountain House is the good stuff. Also good for hiking, kayaking and hurricane prep.
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Have you read the book One Second After by William Forstchen? It is a hypothetical about what happens after an electromagnetic pulse bomb is exploded over the U.S.? It will scare the crap out of you. It's best to be prepared just in case.
 
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utvols88 said:
I know this seems worse than SARS and MERS. However, I cant help but think social media and the mobile connection to EVERYTHING around the world, is sparking more fear than necessary.

With that said, there are alot of details that support this being a major problem such as shutting down a city, building more temporary hospitals, the early numbers, etc. Misinformation is out there but which part is misinformation? Crazy.
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Well said. Social media is a tool, and like anything else it comes with benefits and drawbacks.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Have you read the book One Second After by William Forstchen? It is a hypothetical about what happens after an electromagnetic pulse bomb is exploded over the U.S.? It will scare the crap out of you. It's best to be prepared just in case.
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did you read the entire series? I’d say it’s an accurate representation of what would happen if services broke down.
 
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#596
hog88 said:
did you read the entire series? I’d say it’s an accurate representation of what would happen if services broke down.
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I think a serious disruption in everyday utilities would see this or any other country devolve into a shitstorm very quickly. We had a major water main break here in September and parts of the city didn’t have water for 2-3 days. You would have thought it was the end times. Things like that are also a painful reminder of how reliant we are on water and power that can go offline in an instant.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Have you read the book One Second After by William Forstchen? It is a hypothetical about what happens after an electromagnetic pulse bomb is exploded over the U.S.? It will scare the crap out of you. It's best to be prepared just in case.
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I started stocking up on supplies after reading that book.
 
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