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WBO said:
You're really drinking the kool-aid. Fauci is considered one of the leading infectious disease experts in the world. He could have gone to any of the large pharmaceutical companies and made a fortune, but instead has spent his career in government service at a fraction of the salary dating back to his role in helping to solve the AIDS crisis.

I am sure you realize he is one of the most tested persons in the world, due to his frequently close proximity to the President, so if there was anyone who could remove his mask, outdoors, it would be him (noting that was a picture taken at a single moment in time when other pictures at the bar park showed him wearing a mask).

And can we please realize the basis for the use of masks, particularly the cloth ones. Only an N-95 mask offers the wearer real protection. You wear a cloth mask not to protect yourself from others, you wear it to protect others from you since you could always be someone who carries the virus but you're asymptomatic. It limits the "spray" from you to other 3rd parties.

What have you accomplished in your life, versus his achievements, that allows you declare him a joke?

I know what I read and where I get my information (Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, Politico, The Hill and Drudge every day), where do you get your info, other than Infowars and OAN?
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Reasoning with theses mouth breathers is an exercise in futility. Thankfully medical experts like Fauci aren’t going anywhere.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Read the article you posted.
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Short of that, Fauci says skip the masks unless you are contagious, don't worry about catching anything from Chinese products and certainly don't avoid Chinese people or restaurants.


But then you're going to say he did that to reserve the mask supply but if that's the case why are him and Dr. Brix pushing for us to make cloth mask and decorate them?

 
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Coddlecreek1 said:
No doubt.....have you noticed how U.S. numbers are approx 1/4 of all cases. anybody that believes this is silly. We test.....China is covering up. Think Brazil or India doesn’t have more cases. Media spin.....
read where village of 15000 in Italy was quarantined, half the population had it the other half was asymptomatic.
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I better you were considered the math wiz in high school....
 
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I've said this until I am blue on the face.... the people that believe this crap are sheeple. I'm not saying Corona doesn't exist but it's being Exploited to the extreme! Its election year.... no color problems until this year... now everyone hates everyone else! The economy was doing well, now its election year.... "keep you business closed or people will fall dead shopping." All other sickness has Vanished miraculously since our Beer Bug has come along.... I will mention one last time: more that 6.5 Million deaths due to hunger and more that 25 Million abortions in the same amount of time as the 620k deaths due to Corona. The masks, almost All you see is a Joke, we are supposed to be protecting each other from Moisture Droplets, what you see being worn wouldn't protect you from a Baby Sneezing!

My wife just got back from another country visiting family, one of her close friends was telling her about her husband recently dying from cardiac arrest trying to get to the hospital.... after everything happened the wife was contacted and was told if they could list her husband as dying from covid she would get a monetary amount..... she said list it however you want, no matter what is listed as cause of death he isn't coming back and I need the cash.

Obviously someone has an agenda and they are attacking every facet of our daily lives. I'm done trying to get the sheeple to step back and see what's going on.... oh, I work inside a hospital, and yes... deal with Covid patients, I'd have to type for two hours to explain the Crap so I digress.

I love Football, it's my passion... if they screw us.... oh well.
 
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NashVol11 said:
...no it most certainly has not
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It's always 'someone's neighbor's brother-in-law's cousin's husband' who supposedly died in a motorcycle accident, and the certifying doctor put "covid19" as the COD on the death certificate... But of course there's never the actual death certificate, and the reality is that the claim was read by them on Facebook or Twitter.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Yes, unfortunately one of the things that will change is that kids will be going back to school. Not good for the spread of the virus.

And as others have mentioned already the reality of trying to keep teenagers and 20 somethings (many of whom don't even believe in or care about this virus) away from parties and social interactions around campus is a fool's errand.
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Yeah, without the whole school thing thrown into the picture, I would have a glimmer of hope. This, along with the lessons from baseball, have me looking toward a January basketball season start, and football some time next year.
 
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BeardedVol said:
I know that you want to believe the fantasy that you've crafted in your head, that "Sweden didn't do anything, and are now fine", and their economy is booming, but that's just not the case.

Sweden has double the population of Denmark, but a far lower population density: Sweden 64/sq.mile, Denmark 364/sq.mile. Under Sweden's plan they saw over 5 times as many infections, and 10 times as many deaths as Denmark, even though Denmark is a population density that is 5 times greater than Swedens.

Every one of the Nordic countries surrounding Sweden have decreasing daily infection rates, stop pretending that Sweden is some sort of outlier, they aren't in anyway except the greater number of infections and deaths as opposed to their neighbors.
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I've been to Stockholm it's very large and very spread out and full of refugees and gypsies. Which also accounted for a good number of the cases.

2.4 million compared to Cooppenhagens 1.7 million.

Look they obviously had more cases because they had a lax lockdown. That is a given and nobody is hiding that. Obviously. But it has not been the catastrophe many have suggested. Because only people who are really old or have severe health issues actually die from this. They messed up and didn't protect their nursing homes. Much like everyone else. They also had more cases spread because of their huge refugee situation. Which Denmark and them don't have. Especially Finalnd. Sweden let in 2 million extra people a few years ago, so they have a huge underclass of people living in closer quarters than your regular Swedes.

What Sweden bet on is that a lockdown is delaying the inevitable. 5,114 of their 5,743 deaths were comprised of people 70 and older. 394 were in their 60's. 160 for the 50's. 45 for the 40's. 16 for 30's. 9 for the 20's. 0 for ages 10 through 19 and 1 nine and younger.

The death rates for the entire world are similar. The younger the death the more it is an absolute anomaly and suggests that their immune system is closer to that of an 80 year old than a 20 year old.

Also these provisional death rates do not account for those that died, but happened to have the virus in their system Otherwise known as a death WITH covid as opposed to a death from it. So if you're young and die it's likely from having serious issues or you died of something else and also tested positive. Otherwise you would have millions of people dead and we would all be in agreement with a collective feat of this virus.

Sweden and data suggest that the only way to move forward is to quarantine the vulnerable and the rest go about their business cautiously. If Swedens numbers continue to dwindle then it's safe to begin to assume they have some type of herd immunity. Not only from antibodies, but T Cells, which last for several years. On top of that treatments continue to improve.

They are quarantining the elderly, treating it better and forming a herd immunity amongst the young who don't die from this and they are trending back to normal as we in America continue to flex our polarization into oblivion.
 
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chuckb1448 said:
I've said this until I am blue on the face.... the people that believe this crap are sheeple. I'm not saying Corona doesn't exist but it's being Exploited to the extreme! Its election year.... no color problems until this year... now everyone hates everyone else! The economy was doing well, now its election year.... "keep you business closed or people will fall dead shopping." All other sickness has Vanished miraculously since our Beer Bug has come along.... I will mention one last time: more that 6.5 Million deaths due to hunger and more that 25 Million abortions in the same amount of time as the 620k deaths due to Corona. The masks, almost All you see is a Joke, we are supposed to be protecting each other from Moisture Droplets, what you see being worn wouldn't protect you from a Baby Sneezing!

My wife just got back from another country visiting family, one of her close friends was telling her about her husband recently dying from cardiac arrest trying to get to the hospital.... after everything happened the wife was contacted and was told if they could list her husband as dying from covid she would get a monetary amount..... she said list it however you want, no matter what is listed as cause of death he isn't coming back and I need the cash.

Obviously someone has an agenda and they are attacking every facet of our daily lives. I'm done trying to get the sheeple to step back and see what's going on.... oh, I work inside a hospital, and yes... deal with Covid patients, I'd have to type for two hours to explain the Crap so I digress.

I love Football, it's my passion... if they screw us.... oh well.
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You are disturbed, seek help. Hope you don’t work directly with patients
 
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VolFootballIsLife said:
I won’t even deny most of what you wrote. Politics are dirty and childish. But denying he called it a democratic hoax at a rally? Are you serious? You seem informed so no way you are unaware of this! We’ve had intelligent dialogue recently but I always draw the line when people start denying factual events as if they didn’t happen.

Once you view this incident which is undeniable - still not sure how you are unaware unless you get your news from one source like you are incorrectly accusing me of doing - then maybe you can understand where I’m at. That single event (overlooking everything else) shows me he played to his base and politicized it. I know everyone politicized events. But he is the president and is supposed to lead. It was a gross manipulation of the situation and people are dying because of it.

By the way, didn’t you agree he shouldn’t have called it a hoax in an earlier comment?
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Yes, and so wasn’t denying the hoax comment at a hoax, just asking when it happened.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Nobody knows what will happen but a computer science professor from Illinois is running models and he is predicting a 30-50% infection rate and 3-7 deaths for the 13,000 FBS players.
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Would you care to point out where else in the entire world has seen a 30-50% infection rate? Even moreso, in young, healthy adults?
In addition, of all the positive tests/cases we keep hearing about, have there been athletes who have died and ESPN just failed to report the stories?

Quite the contrary, multiple studies are now finding that many areas appear to be reaching or nearing herd immunity at only a c. 20% infection rate, likely explained by prior immunity due to an unknown factor(s) in maybe 50-60%.

If this holds true, we might eventually discover or accept that our approach to this virus was exactly the opposite of what it should have been. If attainable, we need to get to the herd immunity threshold by winter/respiratory season, or our delay due to lockdown will end up actually COSTING many more lives.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's always 'someone's neighbor's brother-in-law's cousin's husband' who supposedly died in a motorcycle accident, and the certifying doctor put "covid19" as the COD on the death certificate... But of course there's never the actual death certificate, and the reality is that the claim was read by them on Facebook or Twitter.
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I’ve had a number of close friends that have contracted the rona in various age groups, probably early 30s-early 70s, and all have recovered with minimal side effects. Had a buddy actually hit me up yesterday saying he had it but was doing good and was wanting to play Fanduel.
 
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I'm thankful that the "**** it, just pretend nothing's wrong and infect everyone" strategy so popular on here has proven too extreme even for Trump so far.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's always 'someone's neighbor's brother-in-law's cousin's husband' who supposedly died in a motorcycle accident, and the certifying doctor put "covid19" as the COD on the death certificate... But of course there's never the actual death certificate, and the reality is that the claim was read by them on Facebook or Twitter.
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Stew Cook said:
It's a mentality like, "A mask will only protect other people, from me. so why bother?"
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One guy literally said that.
Dudleys87 said:
mask or not you can’t stop the virus. If you get it you get it.

after all haven’t they said on a number of occasions: “the mask doesent prevent you from getting it but protest you from other?”

So before you call them idiots do a little voluntary research first.
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Dudleys87 said:
So my phone autocorrected. Nice of you to point that out.

It doesent protect you so why should anyone wear one? It does however put you at risk for other terrible things to happen.
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VOLnVANDYland said:
154k dead because of gross incompetence and not listening to medical experts vs.... what evil exactly?
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You keep saying that. Care to give us the arithmetic breakdown on that?

0 people would have died if Trump had _____.

? Maybe even with a modicum of evidence if that isn't too much to ask?

Trump didn't take masks 100% serious and complained about Fauci while following all of his recommendations. That sums to... Let me check the numbers here... About zero deaths.

Putting infected old people back in to nursing homes has been the single deadliest decision by any politician since this started. Can't blame that on Trump, but I'm sure you will attempt it, just like that idiot who went around claiming Trump is Cuomo's supervisor for a week.
 
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