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#72,177
RockyTop85 said:
Yeah, I stopped reading at “the ship was set up to house Trump Virus patients” because that was a lie. It was not sent there for that purpose and never did so in meaningful numbers.

No point in reading past the first lie, IMO.
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You look silly for not reading the whole thing. That's on you.

I'm interested in having a constructive debate. You're obviously not interested in that. You're just looking for lines to pick out so you can play the gotcha game. You even admitted that you didn't read the whole thing. My post was much more thorough than yours. Mine included a timeline of how the whole thing unfolded. You stopped at day one
 
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Sea Ray said:
You look silly for not reading the whole thing. That's on you.

I'm interested in having a constructive debate. You're obviously not interested in that. You're just looking for lines to pick out so you can play the gotcha game. You even admitted that you didn't read the whole thing. My post was much more thorough than yours. Mine included a timeline of how the whole thing unfolded. You stopped at day one
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Lol. “It’s your fault I lied.”
 
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UT_VOLS13 said:
Sources: Power 5 talking about no fall football
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The hardest nut to crack will be the SEC. They'll be the most resistant to postponement.

I have two big questions about a move to the Spring:

1) Why will it be better in the Spring? Are they counting on a vaccine that Fauci says not to count on? I want to hear the leagues answer this question

2) What does Spring football look like for seniors? Will they play or will they prepare for the draft? Will the NFL draft be pushed back?

My guess is that Fall football is still the longshot in all of this.
 
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Sea Ray said:
The hardest nut to crack will be the SEC. They'll be the most resistant to postponement.

I have two big questions about a move to the Spring:

1) Why will it be better in the Spring? Are they counting on a vaccine that Fauci says not to count on? I want to hear the leagues answer this question

2) What does Spring football look like for seniors? Will they play or will they prepare for the draft? Will the NFL draft be pushed back?

My guess is that Fall football is still the longshot in all of this.
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If it’s moved to the spring several things would happen, first players like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields won’t play. Something else, I don’t see how they finish a season get a very short time off then start practice so soon, the wear on their bodies would be tough.
 
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volfanjustin said:
If it’s moved to the fall several things would happen, first players like Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields won’t play. Something else, I don’t see how they finish a season get a very short time off then start practice so soon, the wear on their bodies would be tough.
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You mean moved to the Spring? I agree that the stars won't play but I wonder how many of the other seniors and draftable players won't play? Probably a great deal.
 
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Sea Ray said:
You mean moved to the Spring? I agree that the stars won't play but I wonder how many of the other seniors and draftable players won't play? Probably a great deal.
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Right sorry, spring. I think it’s less of a chance they play in the spring. The libs appear to have won this round, they are likely about to get what they wanted.
 
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Sea Ray said:
I see now why your likes are less than half your messages...
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Obsessing over likes would explain why you lied about Cuomo having the option to send nursing home patients to the Comfort and then misrepresented the facts of your partial timeline to try to make your earlier statement seem credible.

It’s definitely a more convincing explanation than “looking for a constructive discussion” or whatever, considering that you didn’t bother to look up or post any articles about why the ship didn’t end up taking nursing home patients after it changed its policy about accepting patients with Trump Virus.
 
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Dumbledorange said:
Sad.

Included?

@AliVelshi


BREAKING: the United States has surpassed 5,000,000 cases of Coronavirus, more than a quarter of the world’s total
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Why does the number of sick matter?

Hospitalized, dead.

I can see those mattering.
5 million sick from Covid, might be 5 million with pneumonia, chicken pox, or rhinovirus.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Just heard some disturbing news last night. My best friend who is an infectious disease specialist in SC was recently on a conference call with the CDC, SCDHEC, Roper ST Francis hospital and Dr Fauci. He said he and a colleague asked some important questions. The answers and responses to the questions are the disturbing part.

The questions were this: “can anyone tell us if the positive cases are from patients with true symptoms of COVID or ard they being tested just because of being admitted for anything?” The second question was similar but much, much more important. “Are the official death numbers of patients that died WITH COVID or BECAUSE of it?”

The CDC rep said that that info is inconsequential and irrelevant. He directed the question to Fauci and he would not answer. After this call he received an email stating that those types of questions are inappropriate and not germane to the states goals of dealing with COVID.
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Why is it always 2nd hand or greater knowledge in these stories?

What organization held the conference call with Fauci and when was it held?
 
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BeardedVol said:
Why is it always 2nd hand or greater knowledge in these stories?

What organization held the conference call with Fauci and when was it held?
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I am not going to divulge my friends name. But the call involved 2 infectious disease specialists from Roper St Francis hospital, one from a wellness clinic in SC, Dr Salgado of MUSC and Dr Fauci.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
I am not going to divulge my friends name. But the call involved 2 infectious disease specialists from Roper St Francis hospital, one from a wellness clinic in SC, Dr Salgado of MUSC and Dr Fauci.
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You don't have to divulge your friend's name, just the organization that held the conference call.
 
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#72,190
BigOrangeTrain said:
I am not going to divulge my friends name. But the call involved 2 infectious disease specialists from Roper St Francis hospital, one from a wellness clinic in SC, Dr Salgado of MUSC and Dr Fauci.
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Many have admitted that if someone dies from something else but had COVID it’s listed as a death from COVID
 
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volfanjustin said:
Many have admitted that if someone dies from something else but had COVID it’s listed as a death from COVID
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In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as
“probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
 
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BeardedVol said:
In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as
“probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
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The numbers are overstated.
 
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BeardedVol said:
In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as
“probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely. However, please note that testing for COVID–19 should be conducted whenever possible.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
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That’s complete BS. That’s not how deaths should be recorded. This is helping push the fear narrative.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You should really talk to some real physicians who are on the frontlines fighting this instead of thinking that google gives you great info.
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I know three personally. They think you are crazy. Two are child hood friends. The other was featured in a story about front line workers.
 
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