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Ok, folks , I’m a retired teacher, thank god. We have an annual contract with said salary for the year. In Virginia that contract is for 200 days. Some counties have option of a couple more or less days. Kids are required to go 180 days which can also be broken down to hours because of snow days. We use to have option of salary over 10/12 months. Now, most have 12 month pay periods because of deductions such as health care, VRS, etc. The extra 20 days are to cover work days , PTO mtg, conferences, math nite, ELL nite, anything extra after school.

I have taught across all grades and my from my experience, there is a huge diff between elementary and high school teaching situations. No, everyone does not have a break/planning period and duty free lunch. Most teachers know the box they checked when they start. Not all teachers are members of unions, esp in Virginia, not all thrilled to be home doing virtual learning or trying to figure out in general what the hell to do.

My county alone doesn’t even have wifi everywhere, we’re opening schools for kids to come in if wifi is spotty or unaffordable. The school board came up with 3 different scenarios and had to go with all virtual until October. They can’t cover all the possible contingencies.

You can ask any teacher I know and they will tell u the whole situation is a clusterf—k. No one is happy-parents, teachers, school boards or last sadly, students.
 
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VolGirl81 said:
Ok, folks , I’m a retired teacher, thank god. We have an annual contract with said salary for the year. In Virginia that contract is for 200 days. Some counties have option of a couple more or less days. Kids are required to go 180 days which can also be broken down to hours because of snow days. We use to have option of salary over 10/12 months. Now, most have 12 month pay periods because of deductions such as health care, VRS, etc. The extra 20 days are to cover work days , PTO mtg, conferences, math nite, ELL nite, anything extra after school.

I have taught across all grades and my from my experience, there is a huge diff between elementary and high school teaching situations. No, everyone does not have a break/planning period and duty free lunch. Most teachers know the box they checked when they start. Not all teachers are members of unions, esp in Virginia, not all thrilled to be home doing virtual learning or trying to figure out in general what the hell to do.

My county alone doesn’t even have wifi everywhere, we’re opening schools for kids to come in if wifi is spotty or unaffordable. The school board came up with 3 different scenarios and had to go with all virtual until October. They can’t cover all the possible contingencies.

You can ask any teacher I know and they will tell u the whole situation is a clusterf—k.
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Okay. So vote more democrats in office in your county then.
 
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McDad said:
i just pulled up 2019 school schedule for my sons. each semester is 20 weeks long. each semester has 5 days closed or early dismissal. each semester also has a week long break built in. That's 36 weeks of classwork.
schools open at 7 and are closed by 3. At 3:30 the only cars in the lot are the principal, extracurricular staff, and janitorial. My understanding is some teachers get paid a little extra for the extracurricular oversight. 5 days at 8 hours is 40 hours per week at school.
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The teachers are typically working on those early dismissal or random days out of calendar. Additionally, they do another one to three weeks of in-service or staff development during the summer.

I can absolutely tell you that they aren't done for the day after they leave the building. From what I've seen there are generally anywhere from 2-4 hours of beaureucratic paperwork, grading papers, emails to parents, lesson plans, preparing documents or interactive projects, weekly class newsletters, etc to be done at home most nights and several hours on the weekends.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The teachers are typically working on those early dismissal or random days out of calendar. Additionally, they do another one to three weeks of in-service or staff development during the summer.

I can absolutely tell you that they aren't done for the day after they leave the building. From what I've seen there are generally anywhere from 2-4 hours of beaureucratic paperwork, grading papers, emails to parents, lesson plans, preparing documents or interactive projects, weekly class newsletters, etc to be done at home most nights and several hours on the weekends.
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If you're looking for sympathy from anyone in this neighborhood, you came to the wrong place. We have hard working republicans and we have lazy democrats and it looks like you fit into the latter.
 
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newyorkvol said:
Nope. Can federal employees sue the government?? Besides hazard pay or a negotiating tool, what else could this represent?
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They can file a grievance like regular unions on a company but I think it get really difficult after the grievance process. I’m not really sure. We could sue our company ( employer) for breach of contract and it would get kicked up to our national headquarters to keep the company from trying to run us out of money and break the union . I can’t imagine trying to keep the government from doing that .
 
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VolStrom said:
If you're looking for sympathy from anyone in this neighborhood, you came to the wrong place. We have hard working republicans and we have lazy democrats and it looks like you fit into the latter.
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I'm not looking for sympathy and I don't expect you to be able to do anything other than make crass generalizations based on the comments I've seen from you. What I am looking for is to explain to people they might be operating under a misconception if they think teachers don't work more than forty hours a week just because there aren't cars in the parking lot. I dont expect you to understand that, but there are people on this board who can see the nuance in situations without defaulting to the, "muh, all teachers bad," party line. By the way I'm not a teacher, if that's what the last part of your remark is implying.
 
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NYTimes had a story today about UA System holding in person classes eventhough my school (UAB) has created an amazingly thorough testing and social distancing system. Predictably, the tone of the story was negative.
 
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utvolpj said:
Well, we now have the first confirmed teacher case at our school. Email basically said they knew it would happen eventually and stay home if you're symptomatic. If no symptoms then come on back tomorrow
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the challenge will be the science (what metrics do you use to set a threshold where it's a problem) vs the negative PR/fear for shutting down
 
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