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Vol Main said:
I asked because you posted as if a mask is supposed to protect the person wearing it. These days, that level of ignorance is weird for a layman. A doctor has to know better, but here you are a doctor, posting as if you do not know that. N95s? Yeah, I know those are supposed to protect the wearer, but they do not really seal tight enough for that. I have some kn95s, and it is obvious that they do not seal well enough to protect me very well. A mask is far more effective protecting other people from the person wearing it than it is at protecting the wearer from other people. For you to talk about your medical knowledge while posting as if you do not know that is inexplicably bizarre. Then you talk as if masks are useless because people touch their faces. As a doctor, why aren't you telling people not to touch their faces? Your attitude seems to be that people are too hopelessly stupid to do a simple thing like wear a mask without rubbing their hands all over everything and then all over their face. That is your reason to discourage people from wearing masks? Duh.
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People are hopelessly stupid.

Also, you are incorrect on N95 mask. Stop buying the cheap box store mask and buy the right size and they will seal.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
People touch their faces a lot, like hundreds or thousands times a day. That is why handwashing + other things are encouraged. One thing will not stop the spread, it is a combination of things. It has always been a combination of things.
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Unless you hang out at the sink all day long..... it probably wonโ€™t be enough
 
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Vol Main said:
Are you real?
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Masks give people a false sense of security..... they really donโ€™t protect much..... I work in healthcare too..... wear a surgical mask/ face shield combo over an N95 and still 95% became infected.....during flu season...... we wear surgical masks all season long with very limited success...... Iโ€™m not saying not to wear them but to think it helps that much is ridiculous
 
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Vol Main said:
I asked because you posted as if a mask is supposed to protect the person wearing it. These days, that level of ignorance is weird for a layman. A doctor has to know better, but here you are a doctor, posting as if you do not know that. N95s? Yeah, I know those are supposed to protect the wearer, but they do not really seal tight enough for that. I have some kn95s, and it is obvious that they do not seal well enough to protect me very well. A mask is far more effective protecting other people from the person wearing it than it is at protecting the wearer from other people. For you to talk about your medical knowledge while posting as if you do not know that is inexplicably bizarre. Then you talk as if masks are useless because people touch their faces. As a doctor, why aren't you telling people not to touch their faces? Your attitude seems to be that people are too hopelessly stupid to do a simple thing like wear a mask without rubbing their hands all over everything and then all over their face. That is your reason to discourage people from wearing masks? Duh.
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I'm not discouraging people from doing anything. I simply stated a possibility, and a very real one -- at that.

Do all of our schools just need to do a better job teaching coaches how to wear masks? Do football and basketball organizations need to re-teach all the refs? Should the old farmer on TV explain that he's actually safe because he wears his cloth mask *correctly*? Do we need more signs at the grocery store and church emphasizing the proper way to wear them? Would that fix anything? Maybe you can show me on the map where that is happening and has worked.

If you actually go out into the real world, you will see that just about everyone is wearing masks everywhere. Is it obvious on our curves in the U.S. that this has had a positive impact? Show me where. People act like Knoxvillians are running around in bare-faced orgies, and that's why the case-load is so high right now. 99% of the city is masked and has been for a while (unless magically eating, drinking, or calling plays/yelling at the ref).

Why did the local school system with a mask mandate "go virtual" due to illness and others that don't require them completed the semester in-person?

And, on N95s, that's the laziest excuse/explanation I've seen yet. If they actually do filter more effectively, you're telling me there hasn't been enough time (9 months) to make several for each American and have us fit-tested?

These are hard questions to answer if you are programmed to just accept what you are told and not analyze data or "think outside the box." Read the multiple studies on mask usage and influenza transmission, step back and look at current viral transmission, get out and observe behavior, or just turn on the TV and watch sports. Think. Then, get back to me.
 
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Vol Main said:
Your attitude seems to be that people are too hopelessly stupid to do a simple thing like wear a mask without rubbing their hands all over everything and then all over their face.
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"Too hopelessly stupid" is my default assumption.

If you've watched people wear their masks then there's really no way to disagree
 
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Vol Main said:
I asked because you posted as if a mask is supposed to protect the person wearing it. These days, that level of ignorance is weird for a layman. A doctor has to know better, but here you are a doctor, posting as if you do not know that. N95s? Yeah, I know those are supposed to protect the wearer, but they do not really seal tight enough for that. I have some kn95s, and it is obvious that they do not seal well enough to protect me very well. A mask is far more effective protecting other people from the person wearing it than it is at protecting the wearer from other people. For you to talk about your medical knowledge while posting as if you do not know that is inexplicably bizarre. Then you talk as if masks are useless because people touch their faces. As a doctor, why aren't you telling people not to touch their faces? Your attitude seems to be that people are too hopelessly stupid to do a simple thing like wear a mask without rubbing their hands all over everything and then all over their face. That is your reason to discourage people from wearing masks? Duh.
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People are too hopelessly stupid to wear them correctly. People don't know how to wash their hands properly and we have been teaching that for years.
 
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volfanhill said:
People are too hopelessly stupid to wear them correctly. People don't know how to wash their hands properly and we have been teaching that for years.
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Frequent hand washing/wiping is likely a major factor why restaurants are so statistically safe relative to Covid.
 
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#86,435
Vol Main said:
I asked because you posted as if a mask is supposed to protect the person wearing it. These days, that level of ignorance is weird for a layman. A doctor has to know better, but here you are a doctor, posting as if you do not know that. N95s? Yeah, I know those are supposed to protect the wearer, but they do not really seal tight enough for that. I have some kn95s, and it is obvious that they do not seal well enough to protect me very well. A mask is far more effective protecting other people from the person wearing it than it is at protecting the wearer from other people. For you to talk about your medical knowledge while posting as if you do not know that is inexplicably bizarre. Then you talk as if masks are useless because people touch their faces. As a doctor, why aren't you telling people not to touch their faces? Your attitude seems to be that people are too hopelessly stupid to do a simple thing like wear a mask without rubbing their hands all over everything and then all over their face. That is your reason to discourage people from wearing masks? Duh.
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They want people who have been vaccinated or have immunity to keep wearing masks. If someone doesnโ€™t have a hacking cough but wears a mask (the same mask everyday!) theyโ€™re constantly tugging on or have their nose peeking out over the top while fingering everything in the store what good does it really do. IMO the most spread occurs around friends and family and nobody is going to wear a mask 24/7....not that it would help.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
People touch their faces a lot, like hundreds or thousands times a day. That is why handwashing + other things are encouraged. One thing will not stop the spread, it is a combination of things. It has always been a combination of things.
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One thing will stop the spread. Stay in isolation until YOU feel safe.
 
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