Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[Sea Ray]

My grandfather served in WWII. If he were alive today, I can say with absolute certainty he would not equate anything that was deemed necessary during the war with the tyranny of Covid 19 power grabbers.

My father had and survived polio during WW II. He's not the least bit worried about this wimpy virus.

 

[508mikey]

using covid excuse to be quitters becoming a trend Winless Chicago State won't play rest of season

 

[CagleMtnVol]

I'm shocked!

 

[Orangeburst]

Been wondering about this. If we can just print money, why is the country even in debt to begin with. Just print up a nice bank roll and pay off our deficit and foreign loans.

You can buy one of these for $134.

 

[utvolpj]

And a high risk of permanent heart damage. And/or permanent neurological damage. And/or permanent lung scarring. So many legitimate, documented, acute or chronic side effects that greatly diminish quality of life that don't fit into the binary live/die narrative.

You must not know any long haulers, either.

High risk of those? Exactly how high?

 

[0nelilreb]

Yes. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.

That’s exactly why our FF wrote the constitution. The problem is , the way you see freedom is giving into government demands , the constitution was written so our government would take the freedoms we have already . We have lost more freedom on the excuse of social safety than anything else in our history . Eternal Vigilance (of government) is not the price of freedom , you are using fear as an excuse for a loss of freedom.

 

[0nelilreb]

And a high risk of permanent heart damage. And/or permanent neurological damage. And/or permanent lung scarring. So many legitimate, documented, acute or chronic side effects that greatly diminish quality of life that don't fit into the binary live/die narrative.

You must not know any long haulers, either.

I know one or two long haulers . Unless you are looking for Covid result in one of the most unhealthy professions on the planet , using this demographic won’t get you very far because we already know that the virus ( any virus ) is extremely hard on unhealthy people . That smell they are talking about is probably their azz that hasn’t been washed in days . A couple of hot showers at the pilot and problem solved .. no more foul odors .

 

[kiddiedoc]

I think those side effects are also quite rare. Do you really think CJP and CRB will have heart damage? Those things effect the ones that had serious symptoms and serious symptoms are rare.

I agree with you that the virus should be avoided but we're not looking at a virus like AIDS or polio here.

You are correct. The vast majority of people, and practically ALL younger individuals recover with no known sequelae.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I'm shocked!

I don't see why not -- it's certainly working. **See: >65,000 cases yesterday, the highest ever daily total in Cali.

 

[Weezy]

Only know one person who's gotten it, and that's kind of a reach. Nobody hospitalized or dying. None of my friend group is locking down, all have young kids in school/daycare, all essential workers. I guess for Tennessee to be the laughing stock of the world, and for this to be the equivalent of London bombings, I must be one lucky guy.

 

[AshG]

Only know one person who's gotten it, and that's kind of a reach. Nobody hospitalized or dying. None of my friend group is locking down, all have young kids in school/daycare, all essential workers. I guess for Tennessee to be the laughing stock of the world, and for this to be the equivalent of London bombings, I must be one lucky guy.

Whee.

I guess Tennessee's numbers wouldn't be so bad if they would just stop testing. Might clear up some of the ICUs as well. So yeah, just do what you want. Natural selection isn't an exact science anyway.

 

[Weezy]

Whee.

I guess Tennessee's numbers wouldn't be so bad if they would just stop testing. Might clear up some of the ICUs as well. So yeah, just do what you want. Natural selection isn't an exact science anyway.

I think we may agree here. You go live in your cave, and let the rest of us live our lives. Also, those articles on ICUs are exaggerated. They operate normally near capacity.

 

[1972 Grad]

I don't see why not -- it's certainly working. **See: >65,000 cases yesterday, the highest ever daily total in Cali.

I'm asking this since you are in the medical field. Do doctors die at a younger age than the general population? The reason that I am asking is that my doctor died today at around age 60.
My first doctor until I was about 18 died at 47-48. Doctor #2 made it to age 59, and I was late 40's at the time. Doctor #3 died at age 62-63, about 10 years ago, and now doctor #4, today, at around 60. These were all G.P.'s. Just wondering if stress is a major factor.

 

[AshG]

I think we may agree here. You go live in your cave, and let the rest of us live our lives. Also, those articles on ICUs are exaggerated. They operate normally near capacity.

Heh. I don't live in a cave. We're just far more careful when we go out. Also, my kids go straight after school and bag their clothes, shower head to toe, then take their clothes to the laundry room as soon as they get home from school.

I'm that pesky high risk statistic people to refer to as if I don'tv have a name.

 

[LouderVol]

And a high risk of permanent heart damage. And/or permanent neurological damage. And/or permanent lung scarring. So many legitimate, documented, acute or chronic side effects that greatly diminish quality of life that don't fit into the binary live/die narrative.

You must not know any long haulers, either.

Other viral diseases also carry such risks.

I had meningitis as a child. I have/had lung issues from it.

Still cant justify taking from others to suit my needs or wants, or to make myself feel better.

 

[LouderVol]

High risk of those? Exactly how high?

There is a really big number, lots of numerals, so it's high.

Unfortunately for him those numerals comes after the decimal.

 

[hog88]

Heh. I don't live in a cave. We're just far more careful when we go out. Also, my kids go straight after school and bag their clothes, shower head to toe, then take their clothes to the laundry room as soon as they get home from school.

I'm that pesky high risk statistic people to refer to as if I don'tv have a name.

Take all the precautions you feel that you need to take, I'm all for it. My only problem is with the people who feel that I should be protecting them and advocate for the government to restrict my activities.

 

[LouderVol]

Only know one person who's gotten it, and that's kind of a reach. Nobody hospitalized or dying. None of my friend group is locking down, all have young kids in school/daycare, all essential workers. I guess for Tennessee to be the laughing stock of the world, and for this to be the equivalent of London bombings, I must be one lucky guy.

A bunch of my family has had it,about 10. Only 1 has gone to the hospital. 60s, used to smoke, generally healthy but not in shape. Once they got him on medication he started getting better.

It's not something to ignore, but we have gone far past appropriate responses.

 

[LouderVol]

Heh. I don't live in a cave. We're just far more careful when we go out. Also, my kids go straight after school and bag their clothes, shower head to toe, then take their clothes to the laundry room as soon as they get home from school.

I'm that pesky high risk statistic people to refer to as if I don'tv have a name.

I have five or six in my family that are also high risk. One in the hospital, see above.

I would gladly make changes for them. But in no way would I expect other people to make changes for them. Nor do they expect it of others.

 

[0nelilreb]

I have five or six in my family that are also high risk. One in the hospital, see above.

I would gladly make changes for them. But in no way would I expect other people to make changes for them. Nor do they expect it of others.

Does kissing and hugging an ICU nurse in the mornings qualify as high risk ? Obligatory .. asking for a friend .

 

[Orangeburst]

Does kissing and hugging an ICU nurse in the mornings qualify as high risk ? Obligatory .. asking for a friend .

Uranus Fudge is high risk.

 

[0nelilreb]

Uranus Fudge is high risk.

But sooooo good lol

 

[kiddiedoc]

I'm asking this since you are in the medical field. Do doctors die at a younger age than the general population? The reason that I am asking is that my doctor died today at around age 60.
My first doctor until I was about 18 died at 47-48. Doctor #2 made it to age 59, and I was late 40's at the time. Doctor #3 died at age 62-63, about 10 years ago, and now doctor #4, today, at around 60. These were all G.P.'s. Just wondering if stress is a major factor.

I'm thinking that you have just had bad luck. Overall, I believe physicians do a better job taking care of themselves and avoiding unhealthy behaviors like smoking and drinking excessively. The most recent larger report I can find lists male docs as having approximately a 3 year longer LE than the average man. I'll link it:

Mortality rates and causes among U.S. physicians - PubMed

 

[DC_Vol]

But sooooo good lol

 

[1972 Grad]

I'm thinking that you have just had bad luck. Overall, I believe physicians do a better job taking care of themselves and avoiding unhealthy behaviors like smoking and drinking excessively. The most recent larger report I can find lists male docs as having approximately a 3 year longer LE than the average man. I'll link it:

Mortality rates and causes among U.S. physicians - PubMed

Thanks for the link. I'll read it in a minute. All my doctors appeared to be in pretty good physical shape except for number 3, who was short and dumpy. Not hugely obese, but overweight. Doctor #1 may have smoked (don't remember) because everyone did in the 1950's and 60's. Number 2 smoked a pipe. The last 2 didn't smoke as far as I know.

The weird thing about the current doctor is that after number 3 died, I started going to him. I said "How old are you? I'm not sure if you want to take me on as a patient because all my doctors die fairly young. They don't make it much past 60, if they make that." He said he was 50, I think, and that was about 10 years ago. He smiled and said "I believe I'll be okay taking you as a patient." I don't know what killed him. Probably a stroke or heart attack since my wife saw him last Tuesday for allergies, and he was working.

My first 3 doctors have their pictures on the lobby wall at a local hospital with their birth and death dates, so that is how I remembered their ages.