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[McDad]

Now the Swedish model has failed, it's time to ask who was pushing it | Peter Geoghegan

Peter Geoghegan from The Guardian has an agenda.

Sweden:
Population = 10,099,xxx

Cases = 437K

Deaths = 8,727

FYI. No new cases and no new deaths listed in the resource I used (Wiki, I think)

 

[RavinDave]

Our business supplying catalysts for gas purification in the US has been on par the past few months but international may be a different story. I sent an email this morning to a customer in Turkey who I thought was going to place a small order before Xmas. Just got the following reply:

Hi David,
Life has almost stopped these days in Istanbul due to this Cov.19.
We stay at home for now, so some projects are currently on hold.
I hope we start soon

 

[508mikey]

so stupid Brentano faculty teach outside as CPS teachers report back to school | WGN-TV

 

[kiddiedoc]

Now the Swedish model has failed, it's time to ask who was pushing it | Peter Geoghegan

You might want to check the situation in the U.K., France, Spain, Italy, Belgium, and Switzerland before giving too much credence to this hit piece. Luxembourg is fairing just a tad better, so there's that.

 

[508mikey]

U.S. May Stretch Out Covid-19 Vaccine Supply With Half-Doses

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Peter Geoghegan from The Guardian has an agenda.

Sweden:
Population = 10,099,xxx

Cases = 437K

Deaths = 8,727

FYI. No new cases and no new deaths listed in the resource I used (Wiki, I think)

New York population: 19.5M
New York Covid deaths: 38.2k

Maybe send Cuomo to Stockholm to learn their secrets.

 

[Y9 Vol]

Cuomo Won't Get Vaccine Until His Group's Turn In Black, Hispanic, Poor Communities

"Never miss an opportunity"

 

[midnight orange]

Anyone wanting to hear an intelligent debate on coronavirus by two leading experts, here is a link.
Btw, you won’t get this kind of dialogue on tv news because it doesn’t sell enough erectile dysfunction and diabetes ads.
Ep. 1805 COVID Debate: Martin Kulldorff and Eric Topol | Tom Woods

 

[C-south]

 

[LouderVol]

Is it a fact that it's a failure? The Swede's death rate is better than much of Europe, including France and the UK. I don't think death rate is the only stat that should be considered but that's what the author wants to hang his hat on.

And I like that they deemed it a "failure" only after they voluntarily switched methods and got worse results.

Basically the argument is the Swedish model did not have the world's best results, so it was a failure. But dont look at the method we are using and how it stacks up to that same comparison.

 

[evillawyer]

So I see that 1 in every 940 Americans has now died from COVID-19. So mortality rate is clearly more than .1%. Anyone heard the best current estimate? I gotta believe it's probably something like .7% or .8%, given that we're probably talking about no more than 15-20% of Americans having been infected thus far.

 

[LouderVol]

So I see that 1 in every 940 Americans has now died from COVID-19. So mortality rate is clearly more than .1%. Anyone heard the best current estimate? I gotta believe it's probably something like .7% or .8%, given that we're probably talking about no more than 15-20% of Americans having been infected thus far.

Lol.

Fail 4th grade math there counselor?

1/940= .0010638 etc etc. So .106%.

So on one hand you are correct that we are higher than .1%, but NO WHERE close to .7%.

 

[evillawyer]

Lol.

Fail 4th grade math there counselor?

1/940= .0010638 etc etc. So .106%.

So on one hand you are correct that we are higher than .1%, but NO WHERE close to .7%.

If .106% of the population has died with a 15% infection rate, we'd be looking at roughly .7% mortality rate.

 

[MG1968]

If .106% of the population has died with a 15% infection rate, we'd be looking at roughly .7% mortality rate.

99.3% don’t die. We nearly ruined the economy and are about to do it again once Joe is in office.

 

[LouderVol]

If .106% of the population has died with a 15% infection rate, we'd be looking at roughly .7% mortality rate.

7% have tested positive. Why only assume the actual is double? CDC figures are usually 10 times or more.

We saw early reports from NYC that was 20-30% back before the summer.

 

[LouderVol]

If .106% of the population has died with a 15% infection rate, we'd be looking at roughly .7% mortality rate.

7% have tested positive. Why only assume the actual is double? CDC figures are usually 10 times or more. I would think at least 5x is reasonable.

We saw early reports from NYC that was 20-30% back before the summer.

 

[evillawyer]

7% have tested positive. Why only assume the actual is double? CDC figures are usually 10 times or more. I would think at least 5x is reasonable.

We saw early reports from NYC that was 20-30% back before the summer.

Don't think those were randomized samples though. Corona in Queens was decimated and was showing that over 50% had been infected, per the antibody tests. Guess which neighborhood is now one of the highest positivity rates in the city? Corona in Queens. I think they're testing out at 13% positive currently.[/QUOTE]

 

[LouderVol]

I think you are talking two different things arent you? The antibody test 1, the current Covid test 2.

 

[evillawyer]

I think you are talking two different things arent you? The antibody test 1, the current Covid test 2.

I was making the point that the antibody testing was not randomized. I don't think corona would have a 13% infection rate currently if half of the population had covid in the spring.

 

[headhunter15]

 

[LouderVol]

I was making the point that the antibody testing was not randomized. I don't think corona would have a 13% infection rate currently if half of the population had covid in the spring.

I think you can Covid test positive long after you had it.

Basically I am thinking those could be pulling from the same pot.

 

[evillawyer]

SIAP. UK going back into lockdown.

 

[Sea Ray]

And I like that they deemed it a "failure" only after they voluntarily switched methods and got worse results.

Basically the argument is the Swedish model did not have the world's best results, so it was a failure. But dont look at the method we are using and how it stacks up to that same comparison.

There is something to be learned from Sweden. Basically it doesn't matter what you do. This virus will have its peaks and valleys. It's going to get pretty much every western country. The only places with a chance are island countries such as Iceland and New Zealand. So I think Sweden shows us that it doesn't matter if they do their way or if they do it like UK has done it. The results will be similar. Where's the evidence that if you close down restaurants/bars that the virus will stay at bay? I've not seen it

 

[Sea Ray]

SIAP. UK going back into lockdown.

The lockdown will probably have a very minimal effect

 

[C-south]

SIAP. UK going back into lockdown.

Good for them. Worked last time.