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#102,676
AshG said:
Why not just lift every restriction and let the chips fall where they may? If all these reports and hospitals being full are as bogus as people here believe, then we've got plenty capacity to work with

Whatever happens, happens.
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What "restrictions"? Do you mean quit enforcing our border laws? Biden is already doing that. He is flooding our country with hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants many of which have covid.
Sounds like a great plan to kill a lot of Americans.
 
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#102,682
evillawyer said:
How much does lost productivity from a case of natural immunity inducing COVID cost society? Less output, less tax revenue, etc. Do you really wanna make your argument?

Is society/economy better off with our without COVID? What's the cheapest way to get rid of or minimize the effects of COVID?
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Your trying to argue with someone who’s a naturalist and believes covid should have been allowed to run it’s course while protecting the vulnerable. This is not a money thing it’s a natural course of things.... but since you repeatedly go there...
You want to talk numbers let’s talk numbers. Covid hit the weakest of us because of co morbidities. Those same pts with those comorbidities are often hospitalized several times a year. So to put it in numbers you’ll understand. One hospitalization where the pt passed from covid 100k. Expected revisits of the same pt to the hospital pre covid average 3 times a year for 5 years 70k per visit. 210k per year times the average 5 years 1.05m. Sometimes we have people who are very frequent admissions up to 5 or 6 times a year.
So tell me that allowing the natural course of covid with reasonable things like washing hands, staying home if you are sick, protecting the vulnerable and masking around the sick, reasonable palliative care plans for non viable pts ( meaning limiting vented pts who will die) vs lockdowns that have ruined the economy, ruined many’s mental health, put small businesses out of business, stopped people’s ability to develop natural immunity, started vaccine culture wars that have split society and allowing the .gov agencies with zero legislative powers to completely restrict freedoms ...is a bad idea.
You and I will never agree on many things. I think you believe the collective is more important than the individual, I don’t. I never will.
 
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evillawyer said:
How much does lost productivity from a case of natural immunity inducing COVID cost society? Less output, less tax revenue, etc. Do you really wanna make your argument?

Is society/economy better off with our without COVID? What's the cheapest way to get rid of or minimize the effects of COVID?
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where are you seeing that natural immunity has these costs? most cases are asymptomatic and as we are seeing breakthrough cases for the vaccinated are becoming more common (they also have these costs).
 
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#102,693
evillawyer said:
Most people who get natural immunity will be at home sick and/or quarantined for 14 days, removing taxes and productivity from the economy that outstrips the cost of the vaccine.
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You idiots have been paying healthy people to stay home for months and now you give a damn about lost productivity? GTFO.
 
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evillawyer said:
Most people who get natural immunity will be at home sick and/or quarantined for 14 days, removing taxes and productivity from the economy that outstrips the cost of the vaccine.
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not necessarily true at all - plenty of asymptomatic cases from COVID and the vaccinated are getting breakthrough cases as well which requires the same quarantine.
 
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#102,697
volinbham said:
not necessarily true at all - plenty of asymptomatic cases from COVID and the vaccinated are getting breakthrough cases as well which requires the same quarantine.
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Feds pay $40 for the two Pfizer doses. How much is lost in productivity and taxes from a $75,000 wage earner being out for two weeks? Well more than $40.

If vaxxed, much less likely to get sick or severely ill or hospitalized.

Obviously would have to crunch numbers since it's an empirical question. But where would you put your money down as being the most cost effective as a policy?
 
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#102,699
evillawyer said:
Feds pay $40 for the two Pfizer doses. How much is lost in productivity and taxes from a $75,000 wage earner being out for two weeks? Well more than $40.

If vaxxed, much less likely to get sick or severely ill or hospitalized.

Obviously would have to crunch numbers since it's an empirical question. But where would you put your money down as being the most cost effective as a policy?
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How much have we paid people to stay home the last 16 months clueless shrew? 🤡
 
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