Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[hog88]

I pay for my insurance and healthcare. I am not a drain that needs taxing.

Yes you are.

 

[evillawyer]

I pay for my insurance and healthcare. I am not a drain that needs taxing.

Unless you're self-insured, if an insurer pays more out in claims in a given year, your premiums will increase the next year as those costs are dispersed across the pool of the insured.

 

[VolnJC]

Is Biden trying to kill as many GOP voters as possible by letting the dangerous Lambda variant in via unchecked Southern border?

 

[Orangeburst]

Unless you're self-insured, if an insurer pays more out in claims in a given year, your premiums will increase the next year as those costs are dispersed across the pool of the insured.

What about people that dont even have insurance? Stop running away from the question.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Biden’s border disaster is Key to Texas’ COVID Crisis

More than 80 percent of migrants are unvaccinated, per Immigration and Customs Enforcement data. As Betsy McCaughey noted in these pages, “The vaccination rates in Honduras and Guatemala, the countries of origin for most border crossers, are less than 1 percent.”

Biden’s border disaster is key to Texas’ COVID crisis

Border disaster??? Whaaaa? We never had a border disaster before Biden. It was unheard of. Just look what he's done.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

The democrats just spent trillions of dollars for more unfunded aid, have a $3.5T infrastructure bill that is largely unfunded, are proposing a new massive budget to expand MC/MCaid, and now they're worried about taxes.

 

[LouderVol]

Someone is paying for all the people who get sick and hospitalized because they didn't get vaxxed. In many cases, that someone is society at large through the form of .... you guessed it .... TAXES. Why should taxpayers have to pay your six figure hospital bill when you could have gotten the free vaccine and not been there in the first place. By putting those societal costs (known as a negativite externality) back on you, the inefficient behavior is more likely to be reduced. Those who hate taxes should LOVE this idea.

Why not also tax the vaccinated? They are likewise using the same infrastructure if in the hospital.

Maybe we come up with some form of direct taxation. Collected by the healthcare providers directly, paid by anyone who enters for care, and full cost of whatever services they use? That way the money stays in healthcare. The dumb antivaxxers pay for every minute of ventilation, and then the happy vaxxed person doesnt pay to cover the freedumb.

 

[evillawyer]

What about people that dont even have insurance? Stop running away from the question.

And I addressed those. That's paid by the government (assuming they can't pay it themselves) or the hospitals have to eat it and then charge their paying patients more to make up the loss. Whether its insurance, government, or the hospitals paying for the costs of COVID hospitalizations, the costs are passed on to taxpayers, the pool of the insured, or the hospital's paying patients.

Really, if you believe in personal responsibility and that you should have to pay for the negative effects of your own actions, you should welcome taxing the idiots who won't get vaxxed.

 

[VolnJC]

Border disaster??? Whaaaa? We never had a border disaster before Biden. It was unheard of. Just look what he's done.

Nothing to see here just another record month for Biden.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Border disaster??? Whaaaa? We never had a border disaster before Biden. It was unheard of. Just look what he's done.

Mexico is 22% vaxxed. Honduras, Guatemala, and Nicarauga are all under 6%. The UK is 60% and the CDC advises not travelling there and UK residents should not come here due to the danger. Meanwhile we're releasing illegal immigrants into our interior with a wave. If Biden actually cared about these people and the public at large he would stick them with J&J before sending them on.

 

[LouderVol]

Unless you're self-insured, if an insurer pays more out in claims in a given year, your premiums will increase the next year as those costs are dispersed across the pool of the insured.

That's not me being the drain. Your scenario has society weighing down the individual.

Outside of my biyearly check ups and blood work I have only needed a prescription once in the last 8 years. And i probably should have filled that prescription, prescription Vitamin D, what a waste. How am I the drain on society?

 

[UT_VOLS13]

And I addressed those. That's paid by the government (assuming they can't pay it themselves) or the hospitals have to eat it and then charge their paying patients more to make up the loss. Whether its insurance, government, or the hospitals paying for the costs of COVID hospitalizations, the costs are passed on to taxpayers, the pool of the insured, or the hospital's paying patients.

Really, if you believe in personal responsibility and that you should have to pay for the negative effects of your own actions, you should welcome taxing the idiots who won't get vaxxed.

How about taxing fat people?

 

[Orangeburst]

And I addressed those. That's paid by the government (assuming they can't pay it themselves) or the hospitals have to eat it and then charge their paying patients more to make up the loss. Whether its insurance, government, or the hospitals paying for the costs of COVID hospitalizations, the costs are passed on to taxpayers, the pool of the insured, or the hospital's paying patients.

Really, if you believe in personal responsibility and that you should have to pay for the negative effects of your own actions, you should welcome taxing the idiots who won't get vaxxed.

I know where you are coming from. Equality of treatment but you negelect equality of payment or "buy in".
Once that were to occur, I see nothing but gov mandate to count calories and lifestyle, all so we share a supposed equality. It is another LCD mantra.

 

[evillawyer]

Delta is now 96% of the NYC cases.

Positivity still below 3.5%.

Vaccines work pretty well. Not perfectly, but pretty well. Get vaxxed folks.

 

[hog88]

How about taxing fat people?

Or stupid people?

 

[VolStrom]

That's not me being the drain. Your scenario has society weighing down the individual.

Outside of my biyearly check ups and blood work I have only needed a prescription once in the last 8 years. And i probably should have filled that prescription, prescription Vitamin D, what a waste. How am I the drain on society?

Your drain on the healthcare system is a sine wave. You start out low as a young adult, you get married and have kids and the sine wave rises when they're young. As they grow older your costs get lower and your sine wave bottoms out again and stay low until you start to get older and the sine wave rises again. This is the function of insurance, to "flatten the curve" except to do it over your lifetime.

 

[LouderVol]

Your drain on the healthcare system is a sine wave. You start out low as a young adult, you get married and have kids and the sine wave rises when they're young. As they grow older your costs get lower and your sine wave bottoms out again and stay low until you start to get older and the sine wave rises again. This is the function of insurance, to "flatten the curve" except to do it over your lifetime.

Yes but that is self encapsulated and doesnt involve anyone else.

And I still dont see why no direct payment. If I die at 35 I have paid in but never withdrawn. Person lives to 150 but never needs health coverage beyond yearly checks up, they paid in but never withdrew.

The entire argument is people are dumb, we need to make sure they keep on being dumb. Cant have people face reality.

 

[MAD]

“Buzzer sounds” let’s go to the origin of the problem... bussing in known covid positive pts and dropping them off. Wanna fix the problem you start before the horse gets out of the barn, not after.

Scapegoating is a typical human response to a pandemic.
You are deluded if you really believe migrants are to blame for Covid.

 

[hog88]

Scapegoating is a typical human response to a pandemic.
You are deluded if you really believe migrants are to blame for Covid.

Nobody believes these illegal immigrants Biden is shipping around the country are to blame for covid. Biden and his administration are to blame for letting them in and not testing or vaccinating them. It's damn hypocritical of them to be pounding the vaccination and mask drum while maintaining an open boarder.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

 

[VolStrom]

Nobody believes these illegal immigrants Biden is shipping around the country are to blame for covid. Biden and his administration are to blame for letting them in and not testing or vaccinating them. It's damn hypocritical of them to be pounding the vaccination and mask drum while maintaining an open boarder.

Nothing like the MSM blaming Florida and Texas for being covid spreaders when the brain dead moron in chief is importing thousands of covid infected people in by the day.

 

[Orangeburst]

Scapegoating is a typical human response to a pandemic.
You are deluded if you really believe migrants are to blame for Covid.

Dude, you are rational, but stop trying to have it both ways. It is part of the problem. In case you have not read up, there are several diseases that are popping up in cities with high ilegal pops that were thought to be extinct in America.

 

[AshG]

Why not just lift every restriction and let the chips fall where they may? If all these reports and hospitals being full are as bogus as people here believe, then we've got plenty capacity to work with

Whatever happens, happens.

 

[hog88]

Why not just lift every restriction and let the chips fall where they may? If all these reports and hospitals being full are as bogus as people here believe, then we've got plenty capacity to work with

Whatever happens, happens.

There should have been no restrictions in the first place. The various levels of government should have just given the citizenry the facts and suggestions and let people make their own decisions on how to protect themselves and families.

 

[Velo Vol]

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