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[bamawriter]

Ah good old CDC caught cooking the books yet again to push the fear porn

That wasn't the CDC's number, it was an error on the part of the author.

 

[NEO]

Ah good old CDC caught cooking the books yet again to push the fear porn

Yet all the sheep on here will continue to lick up whatever the CDC says because they are brainwashed, weak minded idiots who have a hive mind mentality and need to be led.


Nobody makes a mistake on accident that is that erroneous.

 

[MAD]

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Nope.

This board is not representative of the general population. Thank God.

OK then give me some solid research on the long term effects of these 'vaccines'. Assuage my concerns that someone that has a job where they are required to be fairly sedentary in a low pressure, dry environment for well over 12 hours won't develop DVTs. OR have potential heart arrythmias.

You did say that your buddies say those concerns are overblown. Fine. prove it.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Got an antibody test the other day.

I've had three colds in the last year.

None of them were covid.

Still have NEVER had it somehow.

Is this some miracle or is it actually not that contagious?

I've been around THOUSANDS of people! I live in Nashville. Like how am I suppose to get this highly contagious disease? A year and a half and I got nothin

 

[InVOLuntary]

Let's suppose we got everyone vaccinated, stayed indoors for a month, then along comes lamda. Lamda that is supposedly even more resistant to the vaccines. What then? We start over? Create another vaccine, stay in our homes under lockdown, the what? Along comes Gama. It's never going to end.

 

[whodeycin85]

I'm both blessed and cursed to have a very wide range of medical experts in my life. High school and college friends with MDs and DOs and RNs and PAs, Fraternity brothers with the same plus several working in medical research or with military medical. Plus, my life saving teams of doctors from 2013 who still follow my case, the team who got me through early sepsis this past February, my wound care teams...

Their messaging, even among the most conservative and homeopathic of the lot, has been to get the damn vaccine, mask up in public, and get tested if you feel sick.

They also consistently say that the worries over vaccine side effects and long term issues are overblown and politicized and the science is very consistent on the efficacy and safety.

I have trouble believing that this wide range of medical professionals would all be in on a groupthink kowtow-to-the-government conspiracy (especially my favorite PCP MD, who homeschools all of his kids, farms a good portion of the family food, bikes to and from work, and prays over and lays hands on his patients as part of his personal care philosophy, and who also recommends masking and getting the vax).

I think maybe, just maybe, there's a good portion of us who are just too anti-sheep and woke up (but not woke) for our own collective good.

Ask your medical friends for data on how covid and the covid vaxs will effect me in 10 years...also how covid and the vax effect children's development in say 5 year or longer? And if they can provide another vax that had been rushed and semi-forced in 2 years or less??....

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

India's Ivermectin Blackout | ZeroHedge

There is a blackout on any conversation about how Ivermectin beat COVID-19 in India. When I discussed the dire straits that India found itself in early this year with 414,000 cases per day, and over 4,000 deaths per day, and how that evaporated within five weeks of the addition of Ivermectin, I am often asked, "But why is there no mention of that in the news?"

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Ask your medical friends for data on how covid and the covid vaxs will effect me in 10 years...also how covid and the vax effect children's development in say 5 year or longer? And if they can provide another vax that had been rushed and semi-forced in 2 years or less??....

... and then there are the 'boosters' that have to be developed.

 

[AshG]

India's Ivermectin Blackout | ZeroHedge

It's because the results have been studied and it's a situation of correlation rather than causation.

 

[The Original Fade]

I know one way to get people vaccinated - if private insurers (BCBS, United, Cigna, etc) sent a letter to all of their policy holders stating they would not pay any claims related to COVID for unvaccinated members. They are private sector businesses and could easily do that, lawsuits or not

 

[NorthDallas40]

I know one way to get people vaccinated - if private insurers (BCBS, United, Cigna, etc) sent a letter to all of their policy holders stating they would not pay any claims related to COVID for unvaccinated members. They are private sector businesses and could easily do that, lawsuits or not

Can we get them to do that on abortions, COPD, and drug overdose/rehab patients too? Asking for a friend.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

LMFAO f$&@ this admin and their BS.

And oh boy are they scared of DeSantis in 2024. This stupid play like pretty much everything else will blow up in their faces. Bribing local school district administrators.

Biden admin targets DeSantis ban on mask mandates, offers cash to Florida school districts defying governor

Its not a bribe. Its an incentive to do the right thing and not play politics. DeSantis is putting health at risk to get more votes. He'll fit right in with you maroons

 

[NorthDallas40]

Its not a bribe. Its an incentive to do the right thing and not play politics. DeSantis is putting health at risk to get more votes. He'll fit right in with you maroons

Did you type that with a straight face or were you laughing your ass off? Be honest.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I'm both blessed and cursed to have a very wide range of medical experts in my life. High school and college friends with MDs and DOs and RNs and PAs, Fraternity brothers with the same plus several working in medical research or with military medical. Plus, my life saving teams of doctors from 2013 who still follow my case, the team who got me through early sepsis this past February, my wound care teams...

Their messaging, even among the most conservative and homeopathic of the lot, has been to get the damn vaccine, mask up in public, and get tested if you feel sick.

They also consistently say that the worries over vaccine side effects and long term issues are overblown and politicized and the science is very consistent on the efficacy and safety.

I have trouble believing that this wide range of medical professionals would all be in on a groupthink kowtow-to-the-government conspiracy (especially my favorite PCP MD, who homeschools all of his kids, farms a good portion of the family food, bikes to and from work, and prays over and lays hands on his patients as part of his personal care philosophy, and who also recommends masking and getting the vax).

I think maybe, just maybe, there's a good portion of us who are just too anti-sheep and woke up (but not woke) for our own collective good.

I thought the same to, then I realized most of my cohorts were repeating the cdc mantra word for word. They can’t even explain the shot itself or what it does in their cells.
If you are ok with a shot looking at the history of failed first time experiments, I believe you should have the right to take it. I don’t have to worry about side effects down the road. Just like I don’t worry about flu vaccine side effects because I can’t take the shot, because the side effects for me are worse than getting flu.
I’m just tired of people putting me on blast when they find out I haven’t had the vax. My new response is I’ve had covid, then I give them the mommy stare. Go ahead, try to argue with me about my immunities and we’ll see how that goes.
I have outstanding ratios on my titres every time I’m tested for shots I received 35 years ago. I’m also tired of the portion of society that does have natural immunity being castigated for not getting the vaccine. God have us the best memory cells ever... so go kick rocks is what I feel like telling them.
The safety and efficacy of the vaccine is still being highly debated. How can one come to the conclusion it is safe with 8 months of data? We’ve seen myocarditis in young men, not safe.
Those touting the line its safe are sounding an awful lot like the daily wrap put out from the cdc. They have been known to be wrong before.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Did you type that with a straight face or were you laughing your ass off? Be honest.

Cash incentive to do the right thing = bribe

 

[NorthDallas40]

Cash incentive to do the right thing = bribe

You don’t say!

 

[NurseGoodVol]

OK then give me some solid research on the long term effects of these 'vaccines'. Assuage my concerns that someone that has a job where they are required to be fairly sedentary in a low pressure, dry environment for well over 12 hours won't develop DVTs. OR have potential heart arrythmias.

You did say that your buddies say those concerns are overblown. Fine. prove it.

That’s just it... they can’t prove it.

 

[whodeycin85]

Its not a bribe. Its an incentive to do the right thing and not play politics. DeSantis is putting health at risk to get more votes. He'll fit right in with you maroons

If masking and vaccines were so popular seems he wouldn't get votes....maybe its not about either but the FREEDOM of CHOICE

 

[The Original Fade]

Can we get them to do that on abortions, COPD, and drug overdose/rehab patients too? Asking for a friend.

Ask all you want. My point is that I could see insurers taking that step if they are continually asked to pay for unvaccinated patients to be on ventilators and rack of half a million in hospital care dollars

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I know one way to get people vaccinated - if private insurers (BCBS, United, Cigna, etc) sent a letter to all of their policy holders stating they would not pay any claims related to COVID for unvaccinated members. They are private sector businesses and could easily do that, lawsuits or not

How about cancer treatment for anybody using any tobacco product then? And for diabetes treatment for sugar addicted hippos? How about car wrecks for drunks?

You really want to go down this idiotic road?

 

[AshG]

I thought the same to, then I realized most of my cohorts were repeating the cdc mantra word for word. They can’t even explain the shot itself or what it does in their cells.
If you are ok with a shot looking at the history of failed first time experiments, I believe you should have the right to take it. I don’t have to worry about side effects down the road. Just like I don’t worry about flu vaccine side effects because I can’t take the shot, because the side effects for me are worse than getting flu.
I’m just tired of people putting me on blast when they find out I haven’t had the vax. My new response is I’ve had covid, then I give them the mommy stare. Go ahead, try to argue with me about my immunities and we’ll see how that goes.
I have outstanding ratios on my titres every time I’m tested for shots I received 35 years ago. I’m also tired of the portion of society that does have natural immunity being castigated for not getting the vaccine. God have us the best memory cells ever... so go kick rocks is what I feel like telling them.
The safety and efficacy of the vaccine is still being highly debated. How can one come to the conclusion it is safe with 8 months of data? We’ve seen myocarditis in young men, not safe.
Those touting the line its safe are sounding an awful lot like the daily wrap put out from the cdc. They have been known to be wrong before.

You bring up many really good points. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

I tend to omit it when talking about this, but I don't believe those who have had Covid should get the vaccine unless they want it for some reason. Natural immunity has been shown to work in this case, so those who have it should be left alone.

No vaccine is completely safe. No shot is completely safe. We'll never hit the technology where there will be 0% reactions. Part of me wonders if the myocarditis statistical spike is because of the number of vaccinations given in a short period of time, rather than spread out over years like vaccines that have been established long term.

My understanding of the vehicle and material per my contacts is that the vehicle is filtered out of the body within 72 hours. The mRNA material presents the blueprints for the spine protein to the immune system, which then ramps up production of the body's defenses. The carrier material is eliminated shortly after.

It's also my understanding that the development of the vaccine family began all the way back at the discovery of SARS-CoV-1. The vehicle has been tested over a long period of time, and the mRNA carrier material has been tested since Project Warp Speed was initialized.

The same medical researcher (currently working for a research lab company in Mobile, AL) who told me that Levafed is colloquially called "Leave'em dead" and gave me a rundown of every way each of my prescribed meds could go wrong and kill me (I love my friends) said this is safe enough I shouldn't worry.

Off to pack more. Thank you sincerely for the light you shed on these discussions.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I thought the same to, then I realized most of my cohorts were repeating the cdc mantra word for word. They can’t even explain the shot itself or what it does in their cells.
If you are ok with a shot looking at the history of failed first time experiments, I believe you should have the right to take it. I don’t have to worry about side effects down the road. Just like I don’t worry about flu vaccine side effects because I can’t take the shot, because the side effects for me are worse than getting flu.
I’m just tired of people putting me on blast when they find out I haven’t had the vax. My new response is I’ve had covid, then I give them the mommy stare. Go ahead, try to argue with me about my immunities and we’ll see how that goes.
I have outstanding ratios on my titres every time I’m tested for shots I received 35 years ago. I’m also tired of the portion of society that does have natural immunity being castigated for not getting the vaccine. God have us the best memory cells ever... so go kick rocks is what I feel like telling them.
The safety and efficacy of the vaccine is still being highly debated. How can one come to the conclusion it is safe with 8 months of data? We’ve seen myocarditis in young men, not safe.
Those touting the line its safe are sounding an awful lot like the daily wrap put out from the cdc. They have been known to be wrong before.

Thank you!

 

[NorthDallas40]

Ask all you want. My point is that I could see insurers taking that step if they are continually asked to pay for unvaccinated patients to be on ventilators and rack of half a million in hospital care dollars

And my point is your proposition is complete canine scat.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

You bring up many really good points. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this.

I tend to omit it when talking about this, but I don't believe those who have had Covid should get the vaccine unless they want it for some reason. Natural immunity has been shown to work in this case, so those who have it should be left alone.

No vaccine is completely safe. No shot is completely safe. We'll never hit the technology where there will be 0% reactions. Part of me wonders if the myocarditis statistical spike is because of the number of vaccinations given in a short period of time, rather than spread out over years like vaccines that have been established long term.

My understanding of the vehicle and material per my contacts is that the vehicle is filtered out of the body within 72 hours. The mRNA material presents the blueprints for the spine protein to the immune system, which then ramps up production of the body's defenses. The carrier material is eliminated shortly after.

It's also my understanding that the development of the vaccine family began all the way back at the discovery of SARS-CoV-1. The vehicle has been tested over a long period of time, and the mRNA carrier material has been tested since Project Warp Speed was initialized.

The same medical researcher (currently working for a research lab company in Mobile, AL) who told me that Levafed is colloquially called "Leave'em dead" and gave me a rundown of every way each of my prescribed meds could go wrong and kill me (I love my friends) said this is safe enough I shouldn't worry.

Off to pack more. Thank you sincerely for the light you shed on these discussions.

Again, does you friend have some long term studies to back up his claim?