Latest Coronavirus - Yikes

[jp1]

Are you saying it lessens the impact of the virus or completely stops it?

I would argue both. Regen- Cov is used for prevention and post exposure. The antibodies essentially bind to the spike protein preventing entry into the cell.

 

[volinbham]

My seven year old granddaughter tested positive last night. She is a very sick little girl. The helpless feeling I have is immense.

sorry to hear - prayers for a speedy recovery

 

[AshG]

U.S. officials' decision on Covid-19 booster shots baffles — and upsets — some scientists — STAT

I am starting to wonder if the White House is just throwing darts at a wall full of potential actions and doing whatever the dart lands on.

 

[VolnJC]

 

[volinbham]

I am starting to wonder if the White House is just throwing darts at a wall full of potential actions and doing whatever the dart lands on.

looking for political wins - anything to distract from Afghanistan and inflation.

concerning from the article:

"To many experts, including Baylor, the sequencing of the decisions being made is also out of whack. While U.S. health officials said booster shots could start being offered the week of Sept. 20, the Food and Drug Administration has not even ruled yet on Pfizer’s application for approval of a third shot; it was filed only Monday. Moderna hasn’t yet asked the agency to authorize a third shot at all."

"Meanwhile the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices — which reviews data on vaccines and makes recommendations on their use to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention — is set to meet next week to look at the data for a third dose. Before Wednesday’s announcement, there was no suggestion a vote might be taken next Tuesday; the group may need additional sessions to address the question."

"Surgeon General Vivek Murthy insisted the booster dose program would only go ahead if sanctioned by the FDA and the ACIP, as the CDC advisory committee is known. But the fact that there is a fixed date for the start of the booster program led some to wonder if the outcome had already been decided."

 

[Matt2496]

That’s scary to even read.

 

[allvol123]

Damn. Did someone think that was humorous?

So America is the least crazy place in the world. That is kind of scary.

 

[jaybird_1981]

Man screw that. I cannot believe people don't care about stuff like this. They are missing a couple letters from their twitter handle.

 

[newyorkvol]

I am starting to wonder if the White House is just throwing darts at a wall full of potential actions and doing whatever the dart lands on.

The US fascination with positive cases instead of diminishing disease severity and death is, in my opinion, one of the key reasons this virus continues to roll along. If we want no cases, then vaccinate our population and close the borders to limit transmission from less vaccinate countries. If we want to limit disease severity and death, then we should be doing what we can to use available vaccine doses in a worldwide manner. We’ll all get our third shot booster, and then some variant from some other country with low vaccination rates will come rolling through the US again.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Don't worry, these people enforcing lockdowns and mandates will cede all of this power back when it's over.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Damn. Did someone think that was humorous?

So America is the least crazy place in the world. That is kind of scary.

Their PM yesterday blamed Australia for the recent case in New Zealand...

Yeah, she actually blamed Australia.

 

[jaybird_1981]

Their PM yesterday blamed Australia for the recent case in New Zealand...

Yeah, she actually blamed Australia.

I saw that and couldn't believe it.

 

[Hoosier_Vol]

John Rich Shows Support For Carrie Underwood Amid Anti-Mask Backlash: “She’s A Tough Okie Gal” - Music Mayhem Magazine

 

[kiddiedoc]

Given the number of vaccinated people I have heard of contracting CV19 in the last few days, I'm starting to wonder if we need a new approach. Hammer therapeutics? Different vaccine? I don't really think that more and more boosters of a poorly-matched vaccine is going to be the answer.

Obviously, reaching the new HIT for the Indian Delta variant is the long-term solution, but we could be a ways off, given vaccine escape and increased transmissibility.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Chattanooga Mayor Tim Kelly in quarantine after testing positive for COVID-19

I am grateful to be fully vaccinated, as my symptoms are barely noticeable; without a vaccine, my symptoms would be much worse.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Chattanooga Mayor Tim Kelly in quarantine after testing positive for COVID-19

Everytime I hear this, I can't believe how hard people are trying to convince themselves that it's true.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Damn. Did someone think that was humorous?

So America is the least crazy place in the world. That is kind of scary.

As I type this, I am sitting in my hotel room in Tokyo. I have been here for about 12 hours, and I will be here for another 36. At least we can use the gym... with a mask of course.... can't leave the hotel ... at all... (and dammit, this was the perfect trip to go to a Japanese baseball game... the Giants are at home) but at least the food here is expensive.

I love the Japanese, but this is nutz.

 

[volinbham]

Given the number of vaccinated people I have heard of contracting CV19 in the last few days, I'm starting to wonder if we need a new approach. Hammer therapeutics? Different vaccine? I don't really think that more and more boosters of a poorly-matched vaccine is going to be the answer.

Obviously, reaching the new HIT for the Indian Delta variant is the long-term solution, but we could be a ways off, given vaccine escape and increased transmissibility.

yeah, the notion of a booster against a variant it wasn't specifically designed for seems questionable for a lack of a better word.

has the research shown vaccinated people catching Delta is a result of the vaccine losing effectiveness or that the vaccine isn't a good match for this variant - IOW the vaccine is still doing what it's supposed to but it's just not as good against Delta. if the latter, the booster seems a waste of time and vaccine.

 

[RikidyBones]

yeah, the notion of a booster against a variant it wasn't specifically designed for seems questionable for a lack of a better word.

has the research shown vaccinated people catching Delta is a result of the vaccine losing effectiveness or that the vaccine isn't a good match for this variant - IOW the vaccine is still doing what it's supposed to but it's just not as good against Delta. if the latter, the booster seems a waste of time and vaccine.

Lambda is here now. We will see where that one goes.

 

[allvol123]

Given the number of vaccinated people I have heard of contracting CV19 in the last few days, I'm starting to wonder if we need a new approach. Hammer therapeutics? Different vaccine? I don't really think that more and more boosters of a poorly-matched vaccine is going to be the answer.

Obviously, reaching the new HIT for the Indian Delta variant is the long-term solution, but we could be a ways off, given vaccine escape and increased transmissibility.

So with Delta being dominant, would your opinion still be that getting an initial vaxx is still worth it?

 

[evillawyer]

Can't argue with that logic

 

[FLVOL_79]

Can't argue with that logic

"This parents says"

Source checks out.

 

[kiddiedoc]

So with Delta being dominant, would your opinion still be that getting an initial vaxx is still worth it?

It does appear that being vaccinated reduces the chance for severe illness/hospitalization/death if you have not recovered from natural infection. IOW, there's likely some neutralizing ability of the vaccine-stimulated antibodies, but they aren't as good a "fit" with the mutated spike protein.

 

[kiddiedoc]

yeah, the notion of a booster against a variant it wasn't specifically designed for seems questionable for a lack of a better word.

has the research shown vaccinated people catching Delta is a result of the vaccine losing effectiveness or that the vaccine isn't a good match for this variant - IOW the vaccine is still doing what it's supposed to but it's just not as good against Delta. if the latter, the booster seems a waste of time and vaccine.

There isn't good research yet. But I do know of several people who were vaccinated in the past couple of months who have now contracted the virus.

 

[vols4sure]

yeah, the notion of a booster against a variant it wasn't specifically designed for seems questionable for a lack of a better word.

has the research shown vaccinated people catching Delta is a result of the vaccine losing effectiveness or that the vaccine isn't a good match for this variant - IOW the vaccine is still doing what it's supposed to but it's just not as good against Delta. if the latter, the booster seems a waste of time and vaccine.

Couple months from now the narrative will switch from % unvaccinated hospitalized to % hospitalized without booster.