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kiddiedoc said:
The only kid I saw in my office today with a "mask" came in for follow up after an ER visit for recurrent chest pain (previously worked up extensively with reassuring findings). Over the past two years, he has developed severe hypochondriasis and is insistent on pulling his cloth gaiter up quickly (with his hands) anytime in public.

It's very sad what has been done to our youth.
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I stop behind the school bus that picks up our neighborhood kids. Its funny to see their interactions with each other. Just kids being kids, about 20% masked.
Kids should have basic understanding of hygiene but when it becomes problematic as you mentioned above it’s so sad. This obviously moved to a mentally unhealthy fear that will not serve this kid well in life.
 
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Red Bank officials layout plan to use Covid-19 relief funds

Record sales tax collections, property values through the roof, and the “Covid” money is being used to give bonuses to government employees and buy more toys. This scenario is repeating itself all over the country. And Biden wants another $30B+ for Covid relief or things could get real bad. I’m sure more money in the system will help fix inflation.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Red Bank officials layout plan to use Covid-19 relief funds

Record sales tax collections, property values through the roof, and the “Covid” money is being used to give bonuses to government employees and buy more toys. This scenario is repeating itself all over the country. And Biden wants another $30B+ for Covid relief or things could get real bad. I’m sure more money in the system will help fix inflation.
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Local government/democrats where I live have been funneling money to their own little nonprofit foundations. One councilman got busted and convicted because he hid his theft poorly. The rest on the council didn't push the issue and force him off the council until his conviction came because they're doing the same thing and don't want to get ratted on themselves.

COVID is, was, and always has been nothing but a moneymaking and graft scheme.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Local government/democrats where I live have been funneling money to their own little nonprofit foundations. One councilman got busted and convicted because he hid his theft poorly. The rest on the council didn't push the issue and force him off the council until his conviction came because they're doing the same thing and don't want to get ratted on themselves.

COVID is, was, and always has been nothing but a moneymaking and graft scheme.
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We had an FBI agent come speak to us last month, he said there's enough PPP fraud to keep a large number of agents occupied for their entire careers. They don't have the manpower to address it all.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
We had an FBI agent come speak to us last month, he said there's enough PPP fraud to keep a large number of agents occupied for their entire careers. They don't have the manpower to address it all.
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And they want it that way. The government has to make work for itself. One of the major ways has always been purity tests.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
It took two years to allow a drug that is more effective, safer, and with fewer side effects (especially serious ones) than the "approved" and much more expensive remdesivir. Such horse sh*t.
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Not really effective but it's pretty safe as long as they follow the dosage reqs.
 
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utvolpj said:
Not really effective but it's pretty safe as long as they follow the dosage reqs.
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It is effective according to meta analysis of 81 studies. Believe them or don't. There are a ton of data though. You have to be very exclusionary of the data to come to the conclusion that ivermectin is zero percent effective based on the available data.

https://ivmmeta.com/
 
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SamRebel35 said:
It is effective according to meta analysis of 81 studies. Believe them or don't. There are a ton of data though. You have to be very exclusionary of the data to come to the conclusion that ivermectin is zero percent effective based on the available data.

https://ivmmeta.com/
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Sorry that's not really a valid study as addressed earlier. Many of the ones included are highly questionable

There are many valid studies showing it really has no effect.
 
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utvolpj said:
Sorry that's not really a valid study as addressed earlier. Many of the ones included are highly questionable

There are many valid studies showing it really has no effect.
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62 peer reviewed studies. How many of them are highly questionable? And questionable in what specific ways? And can we know that the studies showing no effect are not questionable in similar ways that you claim these studies are?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
62 of the 81 trials were peer reviewed. If you only look at the peer reviewed, you still come out with ivermectin being effective
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No you don't. You can't just combine all results of competition different studies and reach one conclusion

Why do you choose to believe this one but dismiss all studies to the contrary?
 
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utvolpj said:
No you don't. You can't just combine all results of competition different studies and reach one conclusion

Why do you choose to believe this one but dismiss all studies to the contrary?
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Nobody is dismissing anything. They include the contrary studies in their analysis. Read the paper. They are very meticulous and transparent with their methodology in analyzing the data. If you can come up with a few reasons that their analysis is not valid, I may be swayed. But so far all I've heard is "you can't trust data coming from differing sources which conclude the same thing". Why not? People either took ivermectin or didn't. People either recovered or didn't. The data are the data. Where's the controversy?
 
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SamRebel35 said:
People either took ivermectin or didn't. People either recovered or didn't. The data are the data. Where's the controversy?
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How much? When? What other treatments? What are the controls?

No, you can't just mash together small studies into one big one and claim a valid conclusion

Knock yourself out of you want to take it and feel it works. There's nothing to show it works but no reason to prevent it either.
 
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utvolpj said:
How much? When? What other treatments? What are the controls?

No, you can't just mash together small studies into one big one and claim a valid conclusion

Knock yourself out of you want to take it and feel it works. There's nothing to show it works but no reason to prevent it either.
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The bold is all accounted for in their analysis.

There's a sh*t pot full of data that shows it works. You may question the data if you would like, but I don't think you've presented any valid arguments against this analysis. Find me something specific in their analysis that is wrong. And if you find something, feel free to issue them a correction. They have a box for that at the bottom of the page.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
There's a sh*t pot full of data that shows it works. You may question the data if you would like, but I don't think you've presented any valid arguments against this analysis. Find me something specific in their analysis that is wrong. And if you find something, feel free to issue them a correction. They have a box for that at the bottom of the page.
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No there's a lot claiming it may work. That's a big difference. Many are still riding on the initial studies that used toxic levels. It wasn't viable in humans. Then the conspiracy talk began.

The critiques are out there but like so many your mind is made up. Hope it works out for you but you may have better luck with consistent exercise and vitamin d
 
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