Let's compare Jesus and Muhammed (and debate homosexuality) (and Tombstone).

#801
#801
Gramps said:
It is astounding that you do not get this.

Darkness is nothing. It is the absence of light. Light is a form of energy.

Light can be measured, filtered, increased or decreased.

Darkness cannot be measured. Darkness cannot be increased or decreased without light.
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It is astounding. Darkness is defined by the absence of light. I don't know why you don't get it.

Again, please respond: Is dryness an article of faith? It is no different a concept than darkness, so...?
 
#802
#802
Only a man of faith can experience "cold," right gramps?

One is not dry, one BELIEVES they are dry, right gramps?

Darkness is an unexplainable and unquantifiable experience, that one can just choose to not perceive if they don't have enough belief in it, right gramps?

A cold and damp person is a physical agnostic. A cold, dry, starless night is the pinnacle of faith. Right gramps?

This argument is so stupid. I googled your statement, and apparently it is a common evangelical ploy to preach as if it were some profound metaphysical proof.
 
#803
#803
IPorange said:
You are the first one to mention black holes.

Do you think darkness and dryness are items of faith?
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I also mentioned it in a prior post, and yet no one seems to want to address it... interesting?

Sorry... but I have no idea how to respond to your question of darkness and dryness. Perhaps they best describe some peoples personalities in VN (dark and/or dry). :dunno:
 
#804
#804
IBlvNTmWrk said:
I also mentioned it in a prior post, and yet no one seems to want to address it... interesting?

Sorry... but I have no idea how to respond to your question of darkness and dryness. Perhaps they best describe some peoples personalities in VN (dark and/or dry). :dunno:
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Re: black holes.

They belong to theory. The existence of black holes is based upon scientific models of what we know. I do not know of anyway to practically measure black holes; it is quite possible that they might not exist in reality (no one will ever know). If they do or do not exist, it does nothing to the credibility of science; as stated above, these things are conclusions drawn from the premises of the Theory of Relativity. Most in the scientific community already concede that the Theory of Relativity and Quantum Physics make competing claims in theoretical physics, so while humans certainly see tangible benefits as the byproduct of scientists working on these theories, one of them, most likely, must ultimately be false (if not both).

I do not understand what you are trying to prove though by continuing to throw out this "black hole" carrot, though.
 
#805
#805
IPorange said:
Only a man of faith can experience "cold," right gramps?

Wrong, everyone experiences cold. We all know there is cold, Science says it is no more than the absence of heat, correct?

One is not dry, one BELIEVES they are dry, right gramps?

Wrong, we all experience dryness. We all know dry exist, science says it is the absence of liquid, correct?

Darkness is an unexplainable and unquantifiable experience, that one can just choose to not perceive if they don't have enough belief in it, right gramps?

Wrong, we all know darkeness exist, but science says it's the absence of light, correct?

A cold and damp person is a physical agnostic. A cold, dry, starless night is the pinnacle of faith. Right gramps?

Wrong

This argument is so stupid. I googled your statement, and apparently it is a common evangelical ploy to preach as if it were some profound metaphysical proof.
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Stupid...
My point is simply because science cannot measure something, does not mean it does not exist.
Per science darkness is nothing , it's the absence of light.
Are you saying that you do not observe darkness every night?
If my argument is stupid, show me a credible link that shows I am wrong.
 
#806
#806
These last few pages are so full of win.

Nobody ever mention imaginary numbers in the presence of gramps, or basic algebra.
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#807
#807
Gramps said:
Stupid...
My point is simply because science cannot measure something, does not mean it does not exist.
Per science darkness is nothing , it's the absence of light.
Are you saying that you do not observe darkness every night?
If my argument is stupid, show me a credible link that shows I am wrong.
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Darkness is a degradation of light; gradations of light are measurable.

You are a fool.
 
#809
#809
Gramps said:
Stupid...
My point is simply because science cannot measure something, does not mean it does not exist.
Per science darkness is nothing , it's the absence of light.
Are you saying that you do not observe darkness every night?
If my argument is stupid, show me a credible link that shows I am wrong.
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You can measure darkness by the absence of light.

Think of the glass half full/half empty analogy. You are arguing there is no way to measure the emptiness, which is silly. There is, the glass is half full, so therefore it is half empty. If it is a 1/3 full, then it is 2/3 empty. Bingo, emptiness measured.

This works the exact same way with light/darkness.
 
#810
#810
In other ridiculous events of the day, I am still waiting for Kush to explain her stance regarding Horace. I've been on the edge of my seat for hours!
 
#815
#815
rjd970 said:
You can measure darkness by the absence of light.

Think of the glass half full/half empty analogy. You are arguing there is no way to measure the emptiness, which is silly. There is, the glass is half full, so therefore it is half empty. If it is a 1/3 full, then it is 2/3 empty. Bingo, emptiness measured.

This works the exact same way with light/darkness.
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Wrong again.... you are measuring light.
Show me a credible study that says otherwise.
 
#820
#820
Gramps said:
Stupid...
My point is simply because science cannot measure something, does not mean it does not exist.
Per science darkness is nothing , it's the absence of light.
Are you saying that you do not observe darkness every night?
If my argument is stupid, show me a credible link that shows I am wrong.
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You pulled the basis of your argument from a chain e-mail that has claimed, among other things, that Albert Einstein used your argument to prove to an atheist professor that God does, in fact, exist. Why should anyone have to prove that wrong? The entire argument is nonsense and anyone with a shred of intellect can see right through it.
 
#821
#821
Gramps said:
You obviously cannot find a credible study that says I am wrong.
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#822
#822
If it is beer, I just end the philosophical debate and get everybody to agree it needs more.
 
#825
#825
emainvol said:
You pulled the basis of your argument from a chain e-mail that has claimed, among other things, that Albert Einstein used your argument to prove to an atheist professor that God does, in fact, exist. Why should anyone have to prove that wrong? The entire argument is nonsense and anyone with a shred of intellect can see right through it.
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Wrong
 
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