Let's talk about Justin Worley

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VolBeef88 said:
Yes there is a lack of experience but WR is a skill position that lends itself to being grasped quicker than some others. Like I said in another post, it'll be fun just watching the team know their assignments and I think the WR will know them by season start.
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Hunter and Rogers only grasped a half dozen or so routes their first year and they had a coach who had produced several all pro players.

I've no doubt they will get some plays but how much of the play book can they be expert in? that is the big question. Will we only execute 25% of the passing game or 75%?? we will have an idea about mid October on how well they pick it up..
 
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Chilmonty said:
My hope is that Worley this year is more like McCarron is with AL. No flashy numbers, but effective with very low turnovers and a good running game. Ball control with long sustained drives keeping the D off the field.

Has worked out fairly well for AL. JMO


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To be fair they do have a rather nice group of WR's - maybe North is the breakout freshman in the SEC like Amari Cooper.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Hunter and Rogers only grasped a half dozen or so routes their first year and they had a coach who had produced several all pro players.

I've no doubt they will get some plays but how much of the play book can they be expert in? that is the big question. Will we only execute 25% of the passing game or 75%?? we will have an idea about mid October on how well they pick it up..
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how can players play a position for years, participate in countless camps, and practice the playbook for 3 to 6 months before the season starts and still only know 6 routes?
 
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LWSVOL said:
Hunter and Rogers only grasped a half dozen or so routes their first year and they had a coach who had produced several all pro players.

I've no doubt they will get some plays but how much of the play book can they be expert in? that is the big question. Will we only execute 25% of the passing game or 75%?? we will have an idea about mid October on how well they pick it up..
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That's not the case with Hunter at all or Z Rogers either.
I don't know how well they will be and neither do you. But my point is that WR is a position that's not the toughest of all Skill positions to grasp.
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Worley, until this spring, has had very little time to get into sync with the starting team on offense and even this spring was learning a new scheme. Truthfully, you cannot make an accurate assumption of how well he could do as the starting qb.

Personally, I think he ends up starting and does pretty well. I don't think he blows the doors off, but I do believe he starts the full year and progresses as the year goes on.
 
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LWSVOL said:
Hunter and Rogers only grasped a half dozen or so routes their first year and they had a coach who had produced several all pro players.

I've no doubt they will get some plays but how much of the play book can they be expert in? that is the big question. Will we only execute 25% of the passing game or 75%?? we will have an idea about mid October on how well they pick it up..
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Dang...didnt know that about Hunter and Rogers.

Well...the good news is that altho we dont have much exp at wr we do have some numbers. Maybe we can get to 75% by having each learn different plays? :)
 
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orange parmejohn said:
how can players play a position for years, participate in countless camps, and practice the playbook for 3 to 6 months before the season starts and still only know 6 routes?
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It's not just routes. It's blocking, motion etc. But Hunter and Z Rogers knew a helluva lot more than that.
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Really like all our qb's...but right now you have to give Worley a chance. We'll see if he can secure the position this spring. If he can beat out Peterman, which is a heck of a prospect, he'll have earned it.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
how can players play a position for years, participate in countless camps, and practice the playbook for 3 to 6 months before the season starts and still only know 6 routes?
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systems are all different. terminology is all different. its not like they are learning same system, routes and terminology every year through all the high school and camps.

What those two did in high school and camps was nothing like what they had to do at Tennessee..
 
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Give him a chance and see if he can do the job if he can good, if he cant grab a clip board and look like you are doing something on game day.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
That's not the case with Hunter at all or Z Rogers either.
I don't know how well they will be and neither do you. But my point is that WR is a position that's not the toughest of all Skill positions to grasp.
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sorry I wasn't clear, was D Rogers, not Zach. there participation was very limited their first year due to what they understood. Hunter got a little better by November but both struggled knowing what to do first year.

this is a new system for the entire WR corps and their experience is very, very limited at this level.

I sure hope you are correct but based on past history, knowledge of what to do is going to be an issue at WR. JMO
 
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From what ive seen, that Gatorade POY hasnt ment a single thing. Worley just isnt very good. If you watch his passes, he stiff arms nearly every throw. He also has terrible pocket pressence and makes bad decesions(Petermans decesions arent much better). IMO, With either Worley or Peterman, we go 5-7. But I also think Dobbs will be the starter.
 
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VOLracerx said:
At this point I don't see how any of us can make a clear evaluation of him. We have only seen him in junk time and usually just handing the ball off long after the game has gotten away from us.

I doubt anyone in those situations would fair much better. I hope that he spends his summer hours with his WR's and makes the best of his time. I am sure Peterman, Dobbs and Ferguson will make plenty of noise in the fall and that may be the biggest factor in his development.

I seem to remember Cincy swapping QB's on a regular basis - was that under Jones or Kelly?
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This is pretty much how I feel also. One thing though bothers me...In the times he has been on the field, he has shown me nothing that inspires any real optimism.
 
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VolBeef88 said:
It's not just routes. It's blocking, motion etc. But Hunter and Z Rogers knew a helluva lot more than that.
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Which is why Hunter had 16 catches and D Rogers 11 in 12 games,,, because of what they knew..
 
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LWSVOL said:
sorry I wasn't clear, was D Rogers, not Zach. there participation was very limited their first year due to what they understood. Hunter got a little better by November but both struggled knowing what to do first year.

this is a new system for the entire WR corps and their experience is very, very limited at this level.

I sure hope you are correct but based on past history, knowledge of what to do is going to be an issue at WR. JMO
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I agree on D Rogers and Patterson in his first year. But Hunter was much better than you're saying.
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VOLracerx said:
At this point I don't see how any of us can make a clear evaluation of him. We have only seen him in junk time and usually just handing the ball off long after the game has gotten away from us.

I doubt anyone in those situations would fair much better. I hope that he spends his summer hours with his WR's and makes the best of his time. I am sure Peterman, Dobbs and Ferguson will make plenty of noise in the fall and that may be the biggest factor in his development.

I seem to remember Cincy swapping QB's on a regular basis - was that under Jones or Kelly?
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Any game time under Dooley was junk time...
 
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LWSVOL said:
Which is why Hunter had 16 catches and D Rogers 11 in 12 games,,, because of what they knew..
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Who was the leading WR for the team that year? What a player knows doesn't always relate to the amount of receptions. Frosh will usually get fewer than upper class wr. This year we are in a much different situation. But Hunter knew quite a bit more than you're giving him credit.
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