Lol @ the CCM haters

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patrick said:
I am sure that I don't have to remind you that Lofton was not a highly valued recruit and neither was JJ Smith. That first team was made up of three star talent and one 4 star player (Wingate). JJ Smith was initially a walk-on.

CCM's first roster included 4 four star players and a 5 star player.
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5*? Who?
 
#129
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patrick said:
I am sure that I don't have to remind you that Lofton was not a highly valued recruit and neither was JJ Smith. That first team was made up of three star talent and one 4 star player (Wingate). JJ Smith was initially a walk-on.

CCM's first roster included 4 four star players and a 5 star player.
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You have got to be kidding me. Pearl inherited a third team All-American in Lofton and a future NBA player in Watson. The leading scorer Martin inherited was Cameron Tatum.

Maymon and Golden, especially, were terrible under Pearl and didn't fit his system. Please don't act like they and McRae were always going to be this good and Martin just got lucky. They've actually developed and improved substantially since being here, which hasn't been happening a whole lot at Tennessee.

Also, Martin didn't inherit Stokes at all. He recruited him himself, and when Stokes actually started playing while he should have been in high school, we started beating teams like UConn and Florida. Give me a break.
 
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bigoleorange said:
Stallings team is reigning SEC champs and Billy D has multiple championships.
CCM has never coached in an NCAA tourney.
Lets let this thing play out. Unless random regular season wins are your thing, of course.
But this is a messageboard.
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No, Candy is reigning SEC tourney champs. Ky won the regular season title last year. And it only took Kevin Stallings 13 years to win any title of any significance. He has a below .500 record in the SEC in 14 seasons and went 8-8, 4-12, 6-10 and 3-13 in the SEC in his first 4 seasons at Candy. If Martin starts out with those kind of numbers, this place would go apesh*t with those results.

Donovan is proven. He's won multiple national titles, multiple SEC titles and multiple SEC tourney titles. Stallings hasn't done much of anything except go one and done to double digit seeds the last 3 out of 4 NCAA tourneys and just be a general jackass. Hell, he had 3 players get drafted in the NBA last year and won one total NCAA tournament game with those players. That's atrocious.
 
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VKAman said:
You have got to be kidding me. Pearl inherited a third team All-American in Lofton and a future NBA player in Watson. The leading scorer Martin inherited was Cameron Tatum.

Maymon and Golden, especially, were terrible under Pearl and didn't fit his system. Please don't act like they and McRae were always going to be this good and Martin just got lucky. They've actually developed and improved substantially since being here, which hasn't been happening a whole lot at Tennessee.

Also, Martin didn't inherit Stokes at all. He recruited him himself, and when Stokes actually started playing while he should have been in high school, we started beating teams like UConn and Florida. Give me a break.
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Some people you just can't reach.
 
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#134
VKAman said:
You have got to be kidding me. Pearl inherited a third team All-American in Lofton and a future NBA player in Watson. The leading scorer Martin inherited was Cameron Tatum.

Maymon and Golden, especially, were terrible under Pearl and didn't fit his system. Please don't act like they and McRae were always going to be this good and Martin just got lucky. They've actually developed and improved substantially since being here, which hasn't been happening a whole lot at Tennessee.

Also, Martin didn't inherit Stokes at all. He recruited him himself, and when Stokes actually started playing while he should have been in high school, we started beating teams like UConn and Florida. Give me a break.
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Very well said. Wasn't gonna bother arguing, but this is what I would have said.
 
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VKAman said:
You have got to be kidding me. Pearl inherited a third team All-American in Lofton and a future NBA player in Watson. The leading scorer Martin inherited was Cameron Tatum.

Maymon and Golden, especially, were terrible under Pearl and didn't fit his system. Please don't act like they and McRae were always going to be this good and Martin just got lucky. They've actually developed and improved substantially since being here, which hasn't been happening a whole lot at Tennessee.

Also, Martin didn't inherit Stokes at all. He recruited him himself, and when Stokes actually started playing while he should have been in high school, we started beating teams like UConn and Florida. Give me a break.
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I am talking about rankings......

You can't have it both ways....

According to you CCM has "developed" Golden, Maymon and McRae and brought Stokes in all by himself. Well for one thing Pearl was already significantly in the door with stokes.

And why didn't Maymon play very much his first year? Um let me see - oh yea because he was playing behind a guy named Tobias Harris. I guess Pearl recruited Golden and Maymon because they were average players!

This being said, you aren't giving any credit to Pearl for developing his players! I guess Pearl simply rolled the bball out on the court and told the guys to go have fun and win me some games. If you say that Golden, McRae and Maymon owe their success to CCM then you must likewise give Pearl credit for developing Watson, JJ Smith, Chris Lofton, Big Wayne, T Harris, R Smith, Prince, T Smith, Bobby Maze, Williams and Bradshaw.

How do judge coaching ability and player development? Ultimately it boils down to wins and losses!
 
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patrick said:
I am talking about rankings......

You can't have it both ways....

According to you CCM has "developed" Golden, Maymon and McRae and brought Stokes in all by himself. Well for one thing Pearl was already significantly in the door with stokes.

And why didn't Maymon play very much his first year? Um let me see - oh yea because he was playing behind a guy named Tobias Harris. I guess Pearl recruited Golden and Maymon because they were average players!

This being said, you aren't giving any credit to Pearl for developing his players! I guess Pearl simply rolled the bball out on the court and told the guys to go have fun and win me some games. If you say that Golden, McRae and Maymon owe their success to CCM then you must likewise give Pearl credit for developing Watson, JJ Smith, Chris Lofton, Big Wayne, T Harris, R Smith, Prince, T Smith, Bobby Maze, Williams and Watson (oh and Bradshaw).

How do judge coaching ability and player development? Ultimately it boils down to wins and losses!
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You cheated. You used Watson twice on the end there.
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BlueHalo said:
Don't do roids kids. Makes you take tool pics, have black penis envy, and a slight obsession with nuts.
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Hahaha.....I'll take that this is aimed at me....good try but yOu are wrong on 2 counts....I'm not gay so why would I envy black penis....and I don't have a nut obsession....I mean I like cashews and honey roasted almonds but most people do....only reason your bashing my pic is bc you know you can't match it....I mean really, are you that childish.....

I just stated its funny that CCM wins a couple REGULAR SEASON games in a row and all of a sudden he is the greatest HC that TN has ever had....it's laughable
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
I just stated its funny that CCM wins a couple REGULAR SEASON games in a row and all of a sudden he is the greatest HC that TN has ever had....it's laughable
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Who has called Martin the greatest head coach that UT has ever had? Please link the post. That's absurd.
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
Hahaha.....I'll take that this is aimed at me....good try but yOu are wrong on 2 counts....I'm not gay so why would I envy black penis....and I don't have a nut obsession....I mean I like cashews and honey roasted almonds but most people do....only reason your bashing my pic is bc you know you can't match it....I mean really, are you that childish.....

I just stated its funny that CCM wins a couple REGULAR SEASON games in a row and all of a sudden he is the greatest HC that TN has ever had....it's laughable
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Nobody is; it's retaliation against the morons declaring he should have been fired earlier this season.
 
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Bold prediction: After the Vols beat Georgia on Saturday, this thread will be bumped.
 
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patrick said:
That is simply not true if you look at the recruiting classes and player ratings when each took over the program.
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VolsSportsFan said:
You've said that before and you're still wrong.
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Let's see, Dane Bradshaw, C.J. Watson, Andre Patterson, Major Wingate, JuJuan Smith, and Chris Lofton

or...

Cam Tatum, Jordan McRae, Trae Golden, Jeronne Maymon, Renaldo Woolridge, and Kenny Hall

Seems like a no brainer to me.
 
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zjcvols said:
Let's see, Dane Bradshaw, C.J. Watson, Andre Patterson, Major Wingate, JuJuan Smith, and Chris Lofton

or...

Cam Tatum, Jordan McRae, Trae Golden, Jeronne Maymon, Renaldo Woolridge, and Kenny Hall

Seems like a no brainer to me.
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Unless willfully obtuse.
 
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#149
vols 30 said:
Bold prediction: After the Vols beat Georgia on Saturday, this thread will be bumped.
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Bold prediction: If UT loses to UGA on Saturday, this thread will be bumped and the Legions of the Miserable will be out in full force after hiding like little b!tches for the last 6 games.
 
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OrangeBalls said:
Bold prediction: If UT loses to UGA on Saturday, this thread will be bumped and the Legions of the Miserable will be out in full force after hiding like little b!tches for the last 6 games.
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Another bold prediction: If the Vols do lose, slurpers will quickly talk about how great the team will be next year. No worries, Vols should win.
 
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