Love this Dooley quote

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im pretty sure Dooley wants talented guys that bleed orange, unless you all really think he is recruiting cheerleaders - his distinction is simply that they dont have to be 5 star recruits and that he will take a talented 3-4star guy and be very pleased.

Al Wilson comes to mind...so does Bryce Brown.
 
Some of you guys kill me with the negativity.. I"M SUPPORTING DOOLEY NO MATTER WHAT!!!! GO VOLS!!!!!!!!
 
I for one supported the old staff and now am on board for the time being with the new staff. There were concerns to me about both. There are positives about both. Here are my two cents not that they will change anything, matter or anyone cares.

I was very outspoken in my support of the former regime and still a fan of most of his actions. I did not support his lack of embracing the great traditions from UT football of the past. I was very much a fan of the energy , excitement and looseness with which he conducted himself. I was also a fan of his brashness and the fact that he let everyone know he did not care what anyone thought about what he did. The very reasons I liked him are the very reasons I understood when he left for his " DREAM JOB ". Anyone who watched him for five minutes should have seen that coming at the first available opportunity. Did it sting when he left and is there some level of resentment? Of course. That being said when u support someone for the reasons I liked him u cant be upset when those same qualities end up detonating in ur face and he leaves u holding ur arse in ur hand. He was great while he was here but some of his actions made me believe in time while I supported him that we could very easily end up on probation. He is gone and nothing can change that. It's time to move on.

Now on to Dooley. Does he get me all hot and bothered about tennessee football as his predecessor did? Of course not. He is a different kind of coach. Brashness is not his cup of tea. He seems to be a more results speak louder than words kind of guy. Again I preferred the former regime from a personality standpoint to the new regime. This does not mean that the new regime could not be better than the last. It also does not mean it couldn't be worse. There thus far is nothing to support the argument either way IMHO. I do appreciate the fact that he holds tradition in high regard. That is a refreshing change to me. I also believe the way he conducts himself could very well lead to great success. We as fans have got to let the guy have a season let alone get a game under his belt and a recruiting season before we pass judgment be it postive or negative. It is too early to hold a firm belief ither way imo. I have gaurded optimism on the outcome of this hire and on Hamiltons judgment of the guys resume and philosophy. We did not have a lot of options and given the options I think we could have done worse. Time will tell but until then and beyond I will be faithful to my fanhood and continue to support my VOLS with all my might. If the time comes that he turns out to be a dissapointment then I will call for his head. Until then he deserves the benefit of the doubt until a time when we have built enough information to be for or against. And always I will support my team win or lose, rain or shine because MY BLOOD RUNNETH ORANGE PERIOD.
 
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I for one supported the old staff and now am on board for the time being with the new staff. There were concerns to me about both. There are positives about both. Here are my two cents not that they will change anything, matter or anyone cares.

I was very outspoken in my support of the former regime and still a fan of most of his actions. I did not support his lack of embracing the great traditions from UT football of the past. I was very much a fan of the energy , excitement and looseness with which he conducted himself. I was also a fan of his brashness and the fact that he let everyone know he did not care what anyone thought about what he did. The very reasons I liked him are the very reasons I understood when he left for his " DREAM JOB ". Anyone who watched him for five minutes should have seen that coming at the first available opportunity. Did it sting when he left and is there some level of resentment? Of course. That being said when u support someone for the reasons I liked him u cant be upset when those same qualities end up detonating in ur face and he leaves u holding ur arse in ur hand. He was great while he was here but some of his actions made me believe in time while I supported him that we could very easily end up on probation. He is gone and nothing can change that. It's time to move on.

Now on to Dooley. Does he get me all hot and bothered about tennessee football as his predecessor did? Of course not. He is a different kind of coach. Brashness is not his cup of tea. He seems to be a more results speak louder than words kind of guy. Again I preferred the former regime from a personality standpoint to the new regime. This does not mean that the new regime could not be better than the last. It also does not mean it couldn't be worse. There thus far is nothing to support the argument either way IMHO. I do appreciate the fact that he holds tradition in high regard. That is a refreshing change to me. I also believe the way he conducts himself could very well lead to great success. We as fans have got to let the guy have a season let alone get a game under his belt and a recruiting season before we pass judgment be it postive or negative. It is too early to hold a firm belief ither way imo. I have gaurded optimism on the outcome of this hire and on Hamiltons judgment of the guys resume and philosophy. We did not have a lot of options and given the options I think we could have done worse. Time will tell but until then and beyond I will be faithful to my fanhood and continue to support my VOLS with all my might. If the time comes that he turns out to be a dissapointment then I will call for his head. Until then he deserves the benefit of the doubt until a time when we have built enough information to be for or against. And always I will support my team win or lose, rain or shine because MY BLOOD RUNNETH ORANGE PERIOD.

to our disappointment in the hire. What started all of this is his statement about heart, bleeding orange, bell curve recruiting etc. Kiffin's philosophy was get the best period so yes it is culture shock but kudos on your post.
 
Translation: "My claims to fame are that my father rode Herschel Walker's coattails to being the most overrated coach in SEC history and my mother is a loudmouthed Paula Deen wannabe. I couldn't stay ahead of Idaho in the WAC. So, I'll dumb down expectations regarding recruiting by playing to the orange overall wearing clowns who think "heart" trumps talent. That way, I can make it seem the mediocre rosters I assemble are the result of design and not rank incompetence."

Well....he took one coach (Justin Wilcox) from one team (Boise St.) that uses 2-3* kids to flat beat the Big Gun schools when they face them.

Scheme well....slow the game down....no mistakes.....one snap at a time....make plays when your team needs them....anyone can win a game with this team mind set dude.

The Mighty Trojans of Southern Cal ALWAYS lose at least one game to a Pac-10 team that uses that type of game planning and mind set......why can't we?
 
Dude is the exact opposite of Kiffin to this point. He says all the right things.

My translation of this is:

We need kids that are hungry and want to "Give Their All for Tennessee Today!" We need these kids because the blue chip players want to goto the N.C. Contenders right now.....to get those kids to Knoxville we will have to use kids that have a BIG CHIP on their shoulder and a fire in their soul that WANT IT MORE! When we start out fighting:machgun::boxing2:, out lasting, and knocking off the Floridas and Alabamas then those kids will see Tennessee for Tennessee and want to wear the Orange and White:rock::good!::clapping:!
 
I take the utmost interest in all of hatvol's opinions, he always seems to hit the nail on the head - take Coach Bruce Pearl for example.
 
My translation of this is:

We need kids that are hungry and want to "Give Their All for Tennessee Today!" We need these kids because the blue chip players want to goto the N.C. Contenders right now.....to get those kids to Knoxville we will have to use kids that have a BIG CHIP on their shoulder and a fire in their soul that WANT IT MORE! When we start out fighting:machgun::boxing2:, out lasting, and knocking off the Floridas and Alabamas then those kids will see Tennessee for Tennessee and want to wear the Orange and White:rock::good!::clapping:!

We are never going to beat Nick Saban and Urban Meyer without elite talent. I don't care how much "heart" the players have. You don't win championships in this conference without blue chip players.
 
My translation of this is:

We need kids that are hungry and want to "Give Their All for Tennessee Today!" We need these kids because the blue chip players want to goto the N.C. Contenders right now.....to get those kids to Knoxville we will have to use kids that have a BIG CHIP on their shoulder and a fire in their soul that WANT IT MORE! When we start out fighting:machgun::boxing2:, out lasting, and knocking off the Floridas and Alabamas then those kids will see Tennessee for Tennessee and want to wear the Orange and White:rock::good!::clapping:!

you really shouldn't translate languages you don't speak

We are never going to beat Nick Saban and Urban Meyer without elite talent. I don't care how much "heart" the players have. You don't win championships in this conference without blue chip players.

who is saying we don't need them?
 
We are never going to beat Nick Saban and Urban Meyer without elite talent. I don't care how much "heart" the players have. You don't win championships in this conference without blue chip players.

Please tell me where Dooley said he wasn't going after blue chip players.
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Each coaching job is totally different from the last. The only thing that is carried forward from one job to the next is the character of that person, his work ethic, and the lessons he has learned along the way. Coach Dooley did not have success at La Tech but neither did those before him. He was a great assistant under Saban but so were others before and after him. These two situations are totally different from what he will face at Tennessee. The thing we need to know is how much did he absorb along the way and what can he bring to the table that will make him a great fit for Tennessee. So far all we have to judge him by is what he stands for and how he handles his team. From what i have gathered, his priorties are team discipline, work ethic, moral character, honesty, and the understanding that tennessee is much bigger than himself or any one player or fan for that matter. He has compiled a good looking staff, which is the most important job a head coach has in my opinion, and is focused on making the Vols a team that all of the Vol Nation can be proud to support. Let's wait a couple of years before we decided he can't do this job. I, like many others, wish we could have landed a huge named coach but we couldn't. Dooley was about our fourth or fifth option. From that standpoint, we are lucky to have him. He understands that he wasn't our first choice but has decided to embrace us any way. We owe him the same respect. Let him fail before we write him off. Who knows, he could have great success. So lets just try to enjoy the ride and remember that we are lucky to be fans of the greatest program in the nation. We are Tennessee!!!
 
I should use this post as an example in my speech class about not to debate a topic. I believe it was Thomas Jefferson who said, "Error of opinion can be tolerated as long as reason is left free to combat it."

The problem is that there are a bunch of guys on the board who are so out of touch with what makes an argument reasonable. They think if they yell the loudest or belittle opposing views (focusing on details that really aren't that relevant) somehow they have won. But I digress. I suppose a VolNation forum isn't the place to discuss such petty things as logical fallacies.

BTW, where did hat go?

I'm interested in his choices for the HC position as well. Because apparently they need to have been to several BCS bowls, have had success (a relative term since going 17-20 (.459) is so much different than 21-13 (.618) - small sample size) in a significant conference (sorry Boise St.), surround himself with assistant coaches who are legends (how many of you can name more than two Alabama assistants w/o looking it up?), and, oh yeah, actually was available and wanted to come to Knoxville?
 
Sure they can. I disagreed with many things Bush did. I was very, very disappointed that his domestic agenda- the opportunity society, was completely de-railed by Iraq. He certainly should have listened to the Israelis concerning WMD's in Iraq rather than a CIA where the Valerie Plames and Joe Wilsons of the world can not only survive but get promoted. He should have known better after Clinton spent the better part of 8 years politicizing the CIA with PC liberals.

OTOH, Bush was 100 times better than what we now have. Funny how the same folks who questioned Bush's "gravitas" didn't care that BO had never managed anything of significance and did not have the qualifications or temperment to be President. Still doesn't. Funny the same folks that blamed Bush for Katrina and virtually everything else that went wrong in the world are STILL giving BO a pass on terror attacks in the US, the response to the oil spill, the jobless recovery, the threat to the US AAA credit rating, etc, etc, etc.

If there had been 3 serious terrorist attacks on US soil, more bail out packages (remember the media and libs condemned Bush for them), gov't takeovers of private institutions, more stimulus spending, discussion of regulating political speech on the internet, released Homeland Security memos of "mainstream" liberal constituencies being hotbeds of potential terrorists, or the like under Bush or any other Republican... you can be sure of two things. Those issues would STILL be on the lips of the mainstream media and they would not rest until that President's popularity was well under 50%.

Word to the wise, don't believe everything you here from the media (who poll over 90% Dem) or professors impressed with their own elitism.


politics forum....
 
The Mighty Trojans of Southern Cal ALWAYS lose at least one game to a Pac-10 team that uses that type of game planning and mind set......why can't we?

I for one won't be satisfied if all UT becomes is a spoiler. Point about Wilcox though is well made. He's done alot with little at Boise. We'll see how that translates into the week in, week out competition of the SEC though. Scheming up some surprises for the 2 or 3 good teams on your schedule is different from running the SEC gauntlet.
 
Wasn't it Will Muschamp that suggested Derek Dooley to Mike Hamilton? That seems like a pretty good endorsement to me.
 
I for one won't be satisfied if all UT becomes is a spoiler. Point about Wilcox though is well made. He's done alot with little at Boise. We'll see how that translates into the week in, week out competition of the SEC though. Scheming up some surprises for the 2 or 3 good teams on your schedule is different from running the SEC gauntlet.

Well home boy...for now against Florida, Bama, LSU, and Georgia.....we are the spoiler team.....you might as well accept it.
 
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Dooley is here to do what is necessary to fix us long term. Those concerned with the next two seasons need to take about 1,000 Valiums and wake up sometime in 2012.


Well said!! :eek:k::clapping::thumbsup:

And maybe we won't have to hear from them in the meantime........well, we can dream I guess.


GBO!!!!!!!!
 
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