Love this Dooley quote

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Cartervol said:
It is a direct slap in the face. He made it out like Tennessee needed that? Ask yourself did Tennessee need him selling them as the USC of the east? The place sells itself. .
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Whether we "needed" it or not is not the issue. The issue is, did it work? The results speak for themselves.

And if it was such a slap in the face, why wasn't there an uproar about it when it went down? It's not like it wasn't in the paper that the guy was doing it.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Sure can. It would be the same as the one that followed the revelation that Kiffin was using USC to sell UT. No one cared as long as it got recruits.
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Which is why we don't have an identity to sell to recruits right now. We were willing to give up who we were, for what, nothing now in retrospect.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
We've had it on outlines of jersey's in a lot of our sports. I'm not saying it's a primary color, which is orange and white, but it's a color none the less.
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No, it's not. It's never been a school color and the only reason we ever outlined anything in black is because they made us so that the press box could read the numbers and names on the jerseys.

I cannot believe you actually think that black is a school color. It's been orange and white since the dawn of the sport.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
But the mentality that change is death was pervasive and deathly.
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Small changes for the good is fine with me, but trying an Extreme Makeover with a questionable coach from the get go is something that we can now see didn't work, and now we are more lost than ever as a fanbase.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
No, it's not. It's never been a school color and the only reason we ever outlined anything in black is because they made us so that the press box could read the numbers and names on the jerseys.

I cannot believe you actually think that black is a school color. It's been orange and white since the dawn of the sport.
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Well, it's cool to me. :p
 
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Cartervol said:
That's what happens when you let a coach grow long in the tooth at one place.
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True, but it's also true of one who became more of a bureaucrat in his latter years than a coach, IMO. I have a ton of respect for what Fulmer did here as a no name coach, but he let the success take his hunger for more.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Small changes for the good is fine with me, but trying an Extreme Makeover with a questionable coach from the get go is something that we can now see didn't work, and now we are more lost than ever as a fanbase.
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Who's lost? Coaching is now a mercenary business. The programs that recognize that fact fare well. They find what they need and pay like hell to get it and pay more to keep it.
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BigPapaVol said:
Why is there a proper fan thought process and who voted on it?
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There's really not, but it's interesting to see who is willing to change UT just because we aren't winning right now. Bo Pelini is getting Nebraska back to relevance, but yet is keeping with everything Nebraska is about.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Fulmer in good with all the major money players here at UT is the reason he stayed longer than he should have.
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No, it's because we have a fan base that's afraid of change. For me, the worst thing about the Kiffin situation is the fear that our fans will simply be too scared to hire a good coach because he's not a "Tennessee Guy."
 
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hatvol96 said:
If we're winning, I don't care if we wear paisley uniforms. I don't care if the staff goes in and does nWO style graffiti all over the sainted pictures of Adkins, Majors, White, Manning, Berry, et al. Win. That's it.
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Maybe Mike Hamilton would hire Scott Hall if Dooley doesn't work out.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Who's lost? Coaching is now a mercenary business. The programs that recognize that fact fare well. They find what they need and pay like hell to get it and pay more to keep it.
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There have been plenty of coaches that have been payed well and it's not worked out, yet there are coaches who started out low and worked their way up with the success they endured. Just throwing money at something doesn't mean you can fix it.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Whether we "needed" it or not is not the issue. The issue is, did it work? The results speak for themselves.

And if it was such a slap in the face, why wasn't there an uproar about it when it went down? It's not like it wasn't in the paper that the guy was doing it.
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7-6 and a azz kicking in the peach bowl speaks for itself. He did nothing spectacular here and he didn't stick around long enough to see if he could.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
There's really not, but it's interesting to see who is willing to change UT just because we aren't winning right now. Bo Pelini is getting Nebraska back to relevance, but yet is keeping with everything Nebraska is about.
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Bo Pelini is doing what Bo knows. He is a smash mouth defensive coach who gambles. His teams will reflect that and showhis intensity. He's a far cry from Tom Osborne.
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tvolsfan said:
No, it's because we have a fan base that's afraid of change. For me, the worst thing about the Kiffin situation is the fear that our fans will simply be too scared to hire a good coach because he's not a "Tennessee Guy."
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We hired a guy who's not a Tennessee Guy, and he's embracing what we are as a school, yet people are already trying to destroy him. So, that doesn't really hold much water, IMO.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
There have been plenty of coaches that have been payed well and it's not worked out, yet there are coaches who started out low and worked their way up with the success they endured. Just throwing money at something doesn't mean you can fix it.
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If you want to make money, it's better to make a big investment in something safe than by a lottery ticket.
 
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