LSU fans getting cocky after Pitt lost to Ga Tech

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OrangeBeachVol said:
Your #2 summary is spot on. Posters keep trashing the defense, not undeserved, but need to realize the position the DC is in. TN D is not good enough to shut down another teams total offense. They have to choose, stop the run or the pass and hope you chose right. Coming into FL game Richardson had not shown an ability to pass but TN secondary is so weak it almost backfired. Be interesting to see which way they choose to play against LSU. I would guess the same plan as LSU has not shown a strong passing game. Our secondary can make any QB look good is the problem.
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I think to some extent everyone that isn't 2021 UGA has to pick run or pass defense. Tim Banks is smart, he knows what he has, and what he has is really enough under most circumstances. The defensive scheme we played against FL was different from any defense we had played all year, and honestly I don't remember it from last year. There was bound to be a learning curve. Couple that with AR having his best day ever throwing......it was sort of a perfect storm. Add that with an offense that stalled late in the 4th, I think largely due to Hooker being a little banged up and everyone knowing we were going to run. With the vision of hindsight, we had a few options that might have worked better:

Punt or go for the long FG (risky) on 4th down
Play Milton the last series when everyone knew we were running anyway

Plus a few breaks that just didn't go our way:
That onside kick recovery was ridiculous, yeah, somebody missed their man, but you don't get a more perfect bounce than that
Fant ran great routes all day and then left the one that matters short
Hooker missed a wide open McCoy (Pretty sure it was Bru) for an easy first and should have gone there instead of Fant

It was closer than it should have been, but a win is a win.

The coaching right now is very solid. The schemes are working on both sides of the ball. Yeah, we have several positions where we could really use a bit more talent, and a few breaks going our way. Overall though, Tennessee is rolling, beating the teams they should beat. I don't think that changes this weekend without some unforced errors.
 
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volbound1700 said:
IMO, our secondary was just slower than the Florida Wide Receives and could not stay with them. This is why they played off so far. Against Pitt, our defensive speed was not as exposed because Pitt's WRs were not as fast as the ones from Florida.

Our secondary will hold up against teams like Vandy, Pitt, Missouri, UK, etc. that don't have significant speed at WR. However, teams with good WR core will burn us. I am not sure about LSU's WR core. We will see once game starts. I just could not grasp how they stacked up to Florida when I watched LSU last week against Auburn.

One reason that I actually have a fool's hope against Alabama is that Alabama's WR core has NOT looked good to date. Issue with Alabama is that we will need to out score them and I don't think our offense explodes on Alabama like they did against Florida.
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LSU has speed at receiver. I would say at least equal to if not better than FL. But, Daniels hasn't shown the kind of game that AR had against us. Of course Richardson hadn't shown that either before playing us, so maybe LSU catches lightning in a bottle too.

If you gave me Tim Banks job, I would probably start with a single high man and use Jeremy Banks as a spy on Daniels. We sort of did this against Akron for part of the game, any maybe that was in anticipation of this game. Jeremy Banks is kind of useless in pass coverage anyway. Almost a hybrid of the Pitt and FL schemes. Still gives you the option of some outside blitz options and should be enough to keep Daniels in the pocket. Seems like it would be especially effective against a banged up Daniels, because for all of his issues, Banks does know how to lay a hit on someone, and he seems to have basically cleaned up the PF issues he had last year. If that doesn't work, we can go back to the bend don't break zone from FL.
 
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen a school more obsessed with a kickoff time than LSU. Don’t get me wrong, I think it impacts the game, but LSU thinks it’s their birthright to have night games at Tiger Stadium:



 
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scottchatt said:
LSU has speed at receiver. I would say at least equal to if not better than FL. But, Daniels hasn't shown the kind of game that AR had against us. Of course Richardson hadn't shown that either before playing us, so maybe LSU catches lightning in a bottle too.

If you gave me Tim Banks job, I would probably start with a single high man and use Jeremy Banks as a spy on Daniels. We sort of did this against Akron for part of the game, any maybe that was in anticipation of this game. Jeremy Banks is kind of useless in pass coverage anyway. Almost a hybrid of the Pitt and FL schemes. Still gives you the option of some outside blitz options and should be enough to keep Daniels in the pocket. Seems like it would be especially effective against a banged up Daniels, because for all of his issues, Banks does know how to lay a hit on someone, and he seems to have basically cleaned up the PF issues he had last year. If that doesn't work, we can go back to the bend don't break zone from FL.
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I will say that AR at least stands back there and tries to go through his reads. Daniels is pretty much taking off if he cant get past the first read and sometimes he will get through the second. He bails out early more than any QB I've seen this yr. The LSU OL is also pretty bad. Baron, Young and the edge guys should have success against the two freshman OTs.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a school more obsessed with a kickoff time than LSU. Don’t get me wrong, I think it impacts the game, but LSU thinks it’s their birthright to have night games at Tiger Stadium:



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Yeah, well, Beer opens at 9AM. So after we put fiddy on them before the 4th. They’ll all be passed out.
 
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RiseToTheTop said:
I will say that AR at least stands back there and tries to go through his reads. Daniels is pretty much taking off if he cant get past the first read and sometimes he will get through the second. He bails out early more than any QB I've seen this yr. The LSU OL is also pretty bad. Baron, Young and the edge guys should have success against the two freshman OTs.
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That's exactly what we need. If we can get pressure without having to send additional rushers, our defense should hold up. It's not going to be great, but it should be enough.

Oljulari is a problem. I hope the plan for him works, because that is the real deal at DE. I'm honestly not super worried about LSU's secondary. A bunch of transfers that have 5 games together. It's not saying that they are bad, but it isn't Bama or UGA back there, and Hooker is careful with the ball.
 
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Jauan't Some? said:
I don’t blame them, I wouldn’t be afraid of this UT team either. Until the defense comes out and plays a complete game, the LSUs and UKs of the world can keep hope alive.
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True on the one hand, in that they shouldn't be scared of our defense.

On the other hand, if our defense holds them under 40 we win 9 times out of 10.
 
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NeverWe'llSever said:
Pitt is a very schizophrenic program. They won 11 games and lost to Western Michigan last year. Losing to GT is pathetic, but I think the players for GT had quit on their coach and wanted him gone. Getting blown out 42-0 by a mediocre, one dimensional Ole Miss squad means you have quit, to me. Now that he’s been sh*t canned, they are clearly competing even if they’ll struggle to make a bowl.
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GT means nothing in relation to UT/LSU but their last 4 P5 games prior to PItt have gone something like 180 plus to 20. Now, Collins was a complete clown show with gimmicks that would make Butch Jones blush and maybe there was some joy to see him gone but they are an awful team at this point.
 
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IndianaVol said:
Did they even watch that Ga Tech game...GT was playing their best ball of the season and FWIW, Pitt looks like it has already mailed it in for the year.
Pitt can't figure out the QB situation at all.

Last thing - the transitive property (I know, big words so the Cajuns aren't likely to understand) doesn't exist in college football.
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It was Ga Tech's first game with the interim HC after firing the HC on 9/25. Sometimes that actually let's players play loose and they can play their best ball. Not that they are top 25 worthy now or anything, but that first game after a firing can be dangerous because it can catch the opponent off guard
 
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you will hear a pen drop in that toilet bowl after we go up 21-0. ive watched their games. im loving their excuse to why they are gonna beat us. "Pitt got rolled by a bad GT Team" That wasnt the same Pitt team we played. They looked sorry. and the Florida team we played was better than the one that beat Utah. We are due for a full game of defense/offense. In our bigger games this year it has been one or the other thats showed up. we are due for both. I think we come out on fire and absolutely polverize this LSU team. Then their excuse will be. "Its a down year!", "Yall got lucky!" "We have no QB, thats why you won." i thought florida fans were bad. No! LSU takes the cake. my score prediction. Tennessee 38 the mumblin morons 21. Go vols!
 
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BigOrangePaddy said:
Check out this Tiger rant thread:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/lsu-sports/not-impressed-by-tennessees-schedule/104564989/

What they don't acknowledge is Florida still beat a top 10 team and mentally as well emotionally is easily our biggest win since we beat them in 2016.

These are the worst fans in the SEC who have made it their mission to slander Tony V as much as possible all across the internet. I want this win by multiple scores more than you could believe.
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They can continue to keep slandering Tony V.

In the meantime, he will keep kicking their fat drunk arses. :p
 
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volbound1700 said:
IMO, our secondary was just slower than the Florida Wide Receives and could not stay with them. This is why they played off so far. Against Pitt, our defensive speed was not as exposed because Pitt's WRs were not as fast as the ones from Florida.

Our secondary will hold up against teams like Vandy, Pitt, Missouri, UK, etc. that don't have significant speed at WR. However, teams with good WR core will burn us. I am not sure about LSU's WR core. We will see once game starts. I just could not grasp how they stacked up to Florida when I watched LSU last week against Auburn.

One reason that I actually have a fool's hope against Alabama is that Alabama's WR core has NOT looked good to date. Issue with Alabama is that we will need to out score them and I don't think our offense explodes on Alabama like they did against Florida.
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Hopefully Dee Williams will make a difference for us.
 
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scottchatt said:
That's exactly what we need. If we can get pressure without having to send additional rushers, our defense should hold up. It's not going to be great, but it should be enough.

Oljulari is a problem. I hope the plan for him works, because that is the real deal at DE. I'm honestly not super worried about LSU's secondary. A bunch of transfers that have 5 games together. It's not saying that they are bad, but it isn't Bama or UGA back there, and Hooker is careful with the ball.
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Wasn’t Ojulari committed to TN at one time? That one stings.
 
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It seems my thinking they will go into this game way overconfident is right on track. Can’t wait to burst that bubble in the 1st quarter.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Many of the issues would be corrected if our DBs tackled better. There were too many missed tackles against UF in space and when they had the offensive player in their grasp. I am convinced that we can beat LSU if our secondary is just mediocre at best and if the offense remains solid.
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They took some really bad angles on the receivers leading to arm tackles. I am sure that has been addressed during the bye week.
 
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