Mac McClung

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TheMookieMonster said:
Yep. Two years of McClung is not worth the off chance you miss out on Chandler because of it. Pass. Pons will be back and we’ll be fine.
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MM played the 2 at GT. Ajeno was point and when he quit mid season Allen took the point. Mac has played the point sparingly when lineup/foul trouble warranted it.
If KC is worried about a former 3 star then that's another story.:confused:
 
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Lankykong said:
I would say in basketball it can be more deceiving to only rely on stats because it’s a team game. It’s why the best player on terrible teams (Kevin Love) ends up being only okay when you put him on a team with a ball dominating player who is actually good (Lebron).
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Yeah, you can't just rely on stats only, especially when you don't know how to interpret them (watching helps interpret them). You can generally trust scoring efficiency stats.

Love's numbers went down because he changed his role, slimmed down, and took fewer shots (same thing happened to Bosh) because they had 3 stars and one ball. After he got the hang of the league, no matter what team he's been on or what role he's played, he's been an efficient* scorer:

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*O.535 was league average for the last 3 decades and then it went up to about .550 in 2018
 
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@Huffhines, I always enjoy your well-thought-out posts, but think this is a indeed a case where we miss the forest for the trees if we focus on just shooting%. It's a little pedantic.

First, the book on McClung was ALWAYS that he was extremely raw coming out of HS, and played against low-level competition that made him a bit harder to gauge. He stayed with his local team instead of transferring to a hoops factory.

Second, the game is all about measurables and potential. A 48" vertical, from a guy who can pass and dribble and passed the transition test to major college ball, and apparently has a huge workout ethic. Are you kidding me? Everyone wants that athleticism and potential.

Third, what that leaves us with is a guy that needs to be in a place to refine and develop. Ewing never coached at any level before, and is quickly showing he is not that coach. Barnes is basically the opposite.

Any coach confident in their ability to develop talent will be salivating over McClung. It sounds like a major decision factor will be McClung's desire to develop as a point guard, per NBA feedback.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
So UT did not offer out of High School but are interested now?
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UT did not offer then, but have offered him now if a spot comes open, they're telling him to sit tight, which he doesn't exactly want to wait. Other SEC schools are pursuing hard, and we'll regret not taking a local kid, that's a huge rock star amongst his peers, and wants the ball in crucial situations.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
@Huffhines, I always enjoy your well-thought-out posts, but think this is a indeed a case where we miss the forest for the trees if we focus on just shooting%. It's a little pedantic.

First, the book on McClung was ALWAYS that he was extremely raw coming out of HS, and played against low-level competition that made him a bit harder to gauge. He stayed with his local team instead of transferring to a hoops factory.

Second, the game is all about measurables and potential. A 48" vertical, from a guy who can pass and dribble and passed the transition test to major college ball, and apparently has a huge workout ethic. Are you kidding me? Everyone wants that athleticism and potential.

Third, what that leaves us with is a guy that needs to be in a place to refine and develop. Ewing never coached at any level before, and is quickly showing he is not that coach. Barnes is basically the opposite.

Any coach confident in their ability to develop talent will be salivating over McClung. It sounds like a major decision factor will be McClung's desire to develop as a point guard, per NBA feedback.
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Ewing's coached for decades. This is his first HC job.

If McClung is all of these things people claim, how can the result be so bad? What is he working on with his incredible ethic when he's so talented and the quality of the scoring is not improving? I just hear a bunch of excuses about his coaching and teammates, but he was playing with 3 bombers and a quality big. What more can you ask for? We don't have 3 bombers to spread the floor for him. He had three big minute teammates who were better shooters than our best shooter.
 
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OrngeJuiceJones said:
UT did not offer then, but have offered him now if a spot comes open, they're telling him to sit tight, which he doesn't exactly want to wait. Other SEC schools are pursuing hard, and we'll regret not taking a local kid, that's a huge rock star amongst his peers, and wants the ball in crucial situations.
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If the staff wanted him they’d take him now, not ask him to wait.
 
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OrngeJuiceJones said:
UT did not offer then, but have offered him now if a spot comes open, they're telling him to sit tight, which he doesn't exactly want to wait. Other SEC schools are pursuing hard, and we'll regret not taking a local kid, that's a huge rock star amongst his peers, and wants the ball in crucial situations.
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How can we take him without an available scholarship? Give another local kid in Pember the boot?
 
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SockeyeVol said:
@Huffhines, I always enjoy your well-thought-out posts, but think this is a indeed a case where we miss the forest for the trees if we focus on just shooting%. It's a little pedantic.

First, the book on McClung was ALWAYS that he was extremely raw coming out of HS, and played against low-level competition that made him a bit harder to gauge. He stayed with his local team instead of transferring to a hoops factory.

Second, the game is all about measurables and potential. A 48" vertical, from a guy who can pass and dribble and passed the transition test to major college ball, and apparently has a huge workout ethic. Are you kidding me? Everyone wants that athleticism and potential.

Third, what that leaves us with is a guy that needs to be in a place to refine and develop. Ewing never coached at any level before, and is quickly showing he is not that coach. Barnes is basically the opposite.

Any coach confident in their ability to develop talent will be salivating over McClung. It sounds like a major decision factor will be McClung's desire to develop as a point guard, per NBA feedback.
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Love the use of the word PEDANTIC...Wonder how many were sent scrambling for the search button? However it CAN be a most insulting word. I don't think that was your intent here though :):)
 
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tennrich1 said:
Love the use of the word PEDANTIC...Wonder how many were sent scrambling for the search button? However it CAN be a most insulting word. I don't think that was your intent here though :):)
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Correct, it was not meant to insult, merely to underscore that McClung is very much the kind of player who's future headroom cannot (yet) be boiled down so narrowly to a stat.

I never intent to criticize posters here, just the arguments. Huff's contributions in this thread are really good, the counterweight to evaluating McClung based on dunk highlights.
 
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I'm not surprised by Ewing's culture. Knew several staff members with the Magic when he was on the coaching staff during Dwight-era. He truly believed he should've been an NBA head coach after the Magic made it to the Finals in 09 and internally pouted/crapped on a lot of people that said he wasn't ready. He interviewed for several HC NBA jobs and was never fully considered. He took it all personal. I don't think I saw it going this badly at Georgetown but attitude reflects leadership so I'm not surprised to see it heading the way it is currently.
 
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SockeyeVol said:
Correct, it was not meant to insult, merely to underscore that McClung is very much the kind of player who's future headroom cannot (yet) be boiled down so narrowly to a stat.

I never intent to criticize posters here, just the arguments. Huff's contributions in this thread are really good, the counterweight to evaluating McClung based on dunk highlights.
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You're good. I'm more offended by bad arguments than I am specific words, and we had a good exchange
 
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cncchris33 said:
How?
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By running someone off, not saying it would be a good move by any means, but it’s a route they could take if it’s a guy they truly coveted.

The staff continued to recruit Cisse, if it’s a guy they feel they need to have they were gonna find a way to make room. See Blackshear last year as well.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
So months before Burns left the staff knew he was going to get in some trouble and opt to transfer back home? Interesting.
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We were one short of 13 this season.

Blackshear is a terrible example to make your point. In fact there are no examples of Barnes clearing space for one more recruit in his time here.

So maybe they would in this case but there is no example you can use to make that point. At least that makes any sense.
 
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BruinVol said:
We were one short of 13 this season.

Blackshear is a terrible example to make your point. In fact there are no examples of Barnes clearing space for one more recruit in his time here.

So maybe they would in this case but there is no example you can use to make that point. At least that makes any sense.
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Might want to redo the math...on May 17th we were full, we had added Bailey and Plavsic, and Walker had already transferred out. We were sitting at 13 scholarships and in pursuit of Blackshear for weeks after that date, and it wasn’t until July that Burns departed.

If you recall that is when all the talk was going on about would Bailey pay his own way, and you even were discussing his mom being a coach at Texas and how that could come into play. And then there was also talk about Pember potentially paying his own way or taking a prep year.

We were full and then Burns left, Kent left in November putting us 2 short and then we added Vescovi bringing us to being 1 down.
 
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