Majors on Butch: Best UT Coach in 10 Years

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We played football at Huntland. He was about 25+ years before me though. He was a great coach and player. And he has an eye for talent, especially in the coaching ranks. He still has the fire too!
 
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esarmstrong said:
Very underrated post. Majors does his legacy a huge disservice very time he opens his mouth and makes one of his now patented thinly masked jabs at Fulmer.

I love Majors, but his attacks on Fulmer are low class and they have long since worn thin.
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Gotta agree here. Reserve the hate for Bama, Johnny.
 
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Rifleman said:
Major Majors endorsement of Butch Jones today, also perhaps a little jab at Coach Fulmer's last few years.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/2...s-Butch-Jones-Vols-best-coach-10-yearshttp://



He also went on to say . . .



You have to love the old guy's toughness. This guy was jobbed out of the Heisman Trophy, got fired while recuperating from a heart attack, but has never been anything less than all Vol. It will be a sad day when rejoins General Neyland's team again. Hopefully, not for a long while.
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Norte Dame and PAUL robbed Jonny in 56 ND won only 2 games and Paul still took home the prize.:banghead2:
 
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DiderotsGhost said:
Good point. I'd add to hard to compare the two based solely on record, since Johnny Majors took over the program in rotten shape, whereas he left the program as one of the best in the country. One might argue that it was the reverse for Fulmer.

Excluding Majors' first two years, his record improves significantly.

Majors: 107 - 50 - 7 (.652)

If you exclude first four years, it improves even more.

Majors: 95 - 39 - 7 (.674)

Also, Fulmer benefited from what Majors did, which likely inflates his record. Even Ron Zook and Derek Dooley would have looked good for awhile taking over Tennessee in 1993.

Tennessee had only one losing season after Majors' first four years (1988 at 5-6) and won the SEC title three times Fulmer had two losing seasons and won two SEC championships. Though, Johnny coached when the SEC had fewer teams making it easier to win SEC title.

All in all, I think they're about even. Johnny did a lot of things great that Fulmer did poorly. Fulmer did a lot of things great that Majors did poorly.
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Look i love where we are heading would not trade coach Jones for no one, but think about it for a minute we fired a HALL OF FAME coach, you just dont do that unless you going to pay and in one way we are still paying, i know the game passed him by and his record against the gators but you just dont do what we did and get away with it.:ermm:
 
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esarmstrong said:
Very underrated post. Majors does his legacy a huge disservice very time he opens his mouth and makes one of his now patented thinly masked jabs at Fulmer.

I love Majors, but his attacks on Fulmer are low class and they have long since worn thin.
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Looooooooong since. He pouted for decades but that's Ole Johnny, he never let good taste get in his way.
 
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terrypedigo said:
Norte Dame and PAUL robbed Jonny in 56 ND won only 2 games and Paul still took home the prize.:banghead2:
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Perhaps... but in reality the person robbed was Jim Brown. If he had played for any recognized team other than Syracuse (which was not viewed as a decent football program and received little to no attention) then Brown would have been the Heisman winner that year.

I agree, however, that Majors had a much better year than Hornung... arguably one of the most questionable Heisman winners in history.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Perhaps... but in reality the person robbed was Jim Brown. If he had played for any recognized team other than Syracuse (which was not viewed as a decent football program and received little to no attention) then Brown would have been the Heisman winner that year.
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If, dare I say it..I dare! :rock:...Brown had not been brown...:unsure:
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Perhaps... but in reality the person robbed was Jim Brown. If he had played for any recognized team other than Syracuse (which was not viewed as a decent football program and received little to no attention) then Brown would have been the Heisman winner that year.

I agree, however, that Majors had a much better year than Hornung... arguably one of the most questionable Heisman winners in history.
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it was also 1956 and he was black
 
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livefaith said:
Johnny sang Kiffen's praises in similar fashion. Lane had him at practices and Johnny spoke @ how well practices were run and how successful it would be. Just FYI.
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Ppl may not wanna admit it, but Kiffin did a pretty good job in that one year. Not just with Cromp, but McCoy, CWalk, and Dan Williams. Sullins boys, too.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Perhaps... but in reality the person robbed was Jim Brown. If he had played for any recognized team other than Syracuse (which was not viewed as a decent football program and received little to no attention) then Brown would have been the Heisman winner that year.

I agree, however, that Majors had a much better year than Hornung... arguably one of the most questionable Heisman winners in history.
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The biggest robbery was not giving the Heisman to Peyton Manning.

SEC still gets the Heisman shaft because former winners vote on it and the North/West/ND still has a lot of biased voters that take care of their boys first. Peyton was a prime example of that.

If the vote is reasonably close, you can bet the athlete from OSU, MI or ND will get it because of past wieners.
 
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really not much of a compliment to CBJ. Tennessee has had pitiful coaching the last 10 years.....absolutely pitiful.

Now, I know some FOP will say 'what about the national championship coach?" Well, FulmerI (1993-2001) wasnt the same as FulmerIII (2005-2008). FulmerIII wasnt much better, just luckier, than Dooley, JMO.
 
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IBlvNTmWrk said:
Perhaps... but in reality the person robbed was Jim Brown. If he had played for any recognized team other than Syracuse (which was not viewed as a decent football program and received little to no attention) then Brown would have been the Heisman winner that year.

I agree, however, that Majors had a much better year than Hornung... arguably one of the most questionable Heisman winners in history.
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Charles freakin Woodson comes to mind yet again!:banghead2:
 
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Rifleman said:
Fulmer and Majors were fairly comparable game coaches. Fulmer recruited better and most years had a very strong overall staff.

Fulmer took over a program in pretty good shape, whereas Majors had to build it up in the beginning. My earliest memories are of Tennessee being a pushover. Majors made us a contender again. Finally beating Bama in 1982 was epic.
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You tell them. These young whipper snappers have no clue what they're talking about. Majors had that Sec mentality. Fulmer lost his after 98 and gained a true appreciation for Weigel's. ( catch a clue)
 
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