Majors on Butch: Best UT Coach in 10 Years

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whobethis16 said:
And, you know NOTHING about what was in Fulmer's head. I know I've applied for jobs that I didn't necessarily really want, but did anyway. He may love Tennessee and didn't want to leave the state. He did have another job that had fewer hours than coaching, so maybe he wanted to continue having more time for his family. Fact is, you don't know anything except that you want to drag the man through the mud.
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I am not dragging anyone through the mud. I don't believe neither Majors nor Fulmer were great coaches. Good? Yes, but nowhere near great.

The fact remains though, that Fulmer couldn't land another head coaching gig of any significance. He didn't help himself when he publicly declared he was interviewing the schools as much as they were interviewing him. Like Majors, he's completely delusional about himself.
 
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volfanecs said:
Do you have a link proving it happened? Let me help you. NO!!!!!!!!!!!
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A link wouldn't prove anything. More often than not, links are tied to someone's opinion.

Let me help you. I know for a fact Fulmer went behind his back. I can't say for certain that he badmouthed Majors, but he did lobby for the job during the 1992 season. That much is well known.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
If Peyton beats Florida, Peyton wins Heisman.
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Exactly. I've never seen a fanbase act so silly over an award. Peyton didn't deserve it because he choked against Florida. I am not saying Woodson deserved it either. It's not a career award, but for some reason, our fanbase thinks so.
 
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114VOL said:
A link wouldn't prove anything. More often than not, links are tied to someone's opinion.

Let me help you. I know for a fact Fulmer went behind his back. I can't say for certain that he badmouthed Majors, but he did lobby for the job during the 1992 season. That much is well known.
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Well known by? You know for a fact, but can't say for certain is a long way from "he stabbed him in the back".
 
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volfanecs said:
Well known by? You know for a fact, but can't say for certain is a long way from "he stabbed him in the back".
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He lobbied for the job during the 1992 season . That's a fact. I didn't say he stabbed Majors in the back, BUT it isn't too often that you see an assistant coach or coordinator lobby for a HC position during the middle of a season when the current HC hasn't been fired yet.

It would probably help you to reread some posts before responding. It seems like you aren't comprehending very well. Like I said, neither were great coaches. Sorry, that's the way most informed and objective observers see it, which again, is why Phillip couldn't land another HC job. He just wasn't that highly thought of by others outside of this region. We got our azzes handed to us far too often by Florida when we had better players. See, when we lost to Florida, it was usually a hammering. When we beat them, it was in the final minutes. Those things don't go unnoticed by the informed and nondelusional
 
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114VOL said:
He lobbied for the job during the 1992 season . That's a fact. I Those things don't go unnoticed by the informed and nondelusional
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Fulmer was leaving for the East Carolina job; that's what caused the decision to keep him rather than stick with Majors, who was busy demanding pay raises for the work Fulmer, not Majors, had done since 1989. Before 1989, Majors was mostly a major failure on the hill.
 
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114VOL said:
He lobbied for the job during the 1992 season . That's a fact. I didn't say he stabbed Majors in the back, BUT it isn't too often that you see an assistant coach or coordinator lobby for a HC position during the middle of a season when the current HC hasn't been fired yet.

It would probably help you to reread some posts before responding. It seems like you aren't comprehending very well. Like I said, neither were great coaches. Sorry, that's the way most informed and objective observers see it, which again, is why Phillip couldn't land another HC job. He just wasn't that highly thought of by others outside of this region. We got our azzes handed to us far too often by Florida when we had better players. See, when we lost to Florida, it was usually a hammering. When we beat them, it was in the final minutes. Those things don't go unnoticed by the informed and nondelusional
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My comprehension is fine, but a piece of advice for you. You now represent most informed and objective observers? Were you voted into that role which allows you to claim the way "they see it"? Neither were great coaches? 152-52 in the SEC NC HOF. Sounds great to me, but I do not speak for most informed and objective observers, that you represent.
 
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VegasVol said:
Fulmer was leaving for the East Carolina job; that's what caused the decision to keep him rather than stick with Majors, who was busy demanding pay raises for the work Fulmer, not Majors, had done since 1989. Before 1989, Majors was mostly a major failure on the hill.
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Truth A couple of the SEC titles at the end of Majors career should really go in Fulmer's hat, he was the one running the offense while someone was battling his "sickness".
 
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volfanecs said:
My comprehension is fine, but a piece of advice for you. You now represent most informed and objective observers? Were you voted into that role which allows you to claim the way "they see it"? Neither were great coaches? 152-52 in the SEC NC HOF. Sounds great to me, but I do not speak for most informed and objective observers, that you represent.
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Why couldn't we challenge for more national titles? Why did we always get hammered by Florida?

It might sound great to you, but it's only good to me. Sorry. I like the guy, he just wasn't a great coach. It's easy to throw out a statistic. Let me clue you in: Statistics are meaningless without detail. From 2002-2008, we moved into the world of mediocrity and became less and less nationally relevant. In the 152-52 record, there were only two seasons where we were legitimate national title contenders. Lots of really good seasons, which I am thankful for, but I am not going to anoint someone a label of greatness just because he's a nice guy and well liked. Great is reserved for coaches like Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, McKay, Wilkinson, Osborne, etc.

BTW, I don't represent anyone but myself. I realize you probably just don't know any better, but again, there's good reason why no one of any significance let CPF within sniffing distance of their program.

Sorry, I am sure you mean well.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
Truth A couple of the SEC titles at the end of Majors career should really go in Fulmer's hat, he was the one running the offense while someone was battling his "sickness".
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It's already been said, but maybe you should think about David Cutcliffe before making such a remarkably ignorant statement.

The biggest deficiency of Fulmer was the FACT that he got the program fully loaded with talent and depth and then left it 16 years later a small shell of itself. That can't be disputed.
 
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114VOL said:
Why couldn't we challenge for more national titles? Why did we always get hammered by Florida?

It might sound great to you, but it's only good to me. Sorry. I like the guy, he just wasn't a great coach. It's easy to throw out a statistic. Let me clue you in: Statistics are meaningless without detail. From 2002-2008, we moved into the world of mediocrity and became less and less nationally relevant. In the 152-52 record, there were only two seasons where we were legitimate national title contenders. Lots of really good seasons, which I am thankful for, but I am not going to anoint someone a label of greatness just because he's a nice guy and well liked. Great is reserved for coaches like Saban, Spurrier, Meyer, McKay, Wilkinson, Osborne, etc.

BTW, I don't represent anyone but myself. I realize you probably just don't know any better, but again, there's good reason why no one of any significance let CPF within sniffing distance of their program.

Sorry, I am sure you mean well.
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You are the one who says these facts are well known. Did you stand on a corner and hand out a questionaire? I just wonder how you know what everyone thinks of CPF?

Also and BTW. I am sure you mean well, but if you like those other coaches so much, go root for them. I will stick with our "average" HOF coach.
 
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114VOL said:
It's already been said, but maybe you should think about David Cutcliffe before making such a remarkably ignorant statement.

The biggest deficiency of Fulmer was the FACT that he got the program fully loaded with talent and depth and then left it 16 years later a small shell of itself. That can't be disputed.
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It can be disputed. He did not leave.
 
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volfanecs said:
You are the one who says these facts are well known. Did you stand on a corner and hand out a questionaire? I just wonder how you know what everyone thinks of CPF?

Also and BTW. I am sure you mean well, but if you like those other coaches so much, go root for them. I will stick with our "average" HOF coach.
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Fulmer is not our coach anymore. I didn't say I liked those coaches. I said they were great. I can't stand Saban, but he's a great coach. Two things mutually exclusive of one another.

It's painfully obvious you are in over your head. You can't even debate in context. Do yourself a favor and move on.

BTW, I do know what the ADs at Notre Dame, Louisville and Kansas think about Fulmer. They made their sentiments known publicly when Phillip put himself in the mix for those open jobs. They didn't want him. It's that simple.
 
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munsterlander said:
agree, and also not even close.
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Agreed. Talk about having to rebuild a football program. Dickey had to find a QB out of a bunch of single wing TBs for heavens sake and the program had basically "head coachless" for almost a year due to Wyatt being fired in the spring of 1963 and McDonald being the intern coach.
 
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114VOL said:
Fulmer is not our coach anymore. I didn't say I liked those coaches. I said they were great. I can't stand Saban, but he's a great coach. Two things mutually exclusive of one another.

It's painfully obvious you are in over your head. You can't even debate in context. Do yourself a favor and move on.

BTW, I do know what the ADs at Notre Dame, Louisville and Kansas think about Fulmer. They made their sentiments known publicly when Phillip put himself in the mix for those open jobs. They didn't want him. It's that simple.
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You "know for a fact" CPF went behind Major's back. You know what most informed fans are thinking. You are right. I should stop responding to such an impressive poster such as yourself.

You have done a fine job of tearing down CPF and building up the "great" coaches. So I believe you should move on. Enjoy rooting for the Ole Ball coach.
 
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volfanecs said:
You "know for a fact" CPF went behind Major's back. You know what most informed fans are thinking. You are right. I should stop responding to such an impressive poster such as yourself.

You have done a fine job of tearing down CPF and building up the "great" coaches. So I believe you should move on. Enjoy rooting for the Ole Ball coach.
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I am not tearing him down. AND I will stack my loyalty to UT up against yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I am not going to give praise where it isn't due. I said he was a good coach and I meant it. I just don't believe him to be a great coach.
 
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114VOL said:
OK..more proof you're in over your head. Majors didn't "leave" either, but left the program in excellent condition. And I don't think Johnny was any better as a coach.
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nope, sonny. Youre waaay over your head. Sadly you don't realize how stupid your attempts at debates are. Having to resort to lines like "you're over your head" further proves you have nothing else to add and its time to resort to name calling.

Just stop before you make a complete idiot out of yourself. You're 99% there.
 
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