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Longsufferingvol said:
I was reading an article earlier today where Heupel admitted that having Nico on the roster makes it hard to get an experienced quality QB in the portal. Heupel also admitted that lack of qb experience is a concern. My question to Heupel would be why haven't you given either of your backups meaningful playing time? What's especially perplexing to me is how Gaston Moore followed him over from UCF and knows the offense and he hasn't gotten any snaps really. I'm going to be really mad if I don't see Nico or Gaston throwing passes to starting receivers in the bowl.
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Fulmer did the same thing, If I remember correctly Tee Martin played 2 or 4 snaps Peyton's senior year, that used to frustrate me as well.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I was reading an article earlier today where Heupel admitted that having Nico on the roster makes it hard to get an experienced quality QB in the portal. Heupel also admitted that lack of qb experience is a concern. My question to Heupel would be why haven't you given either of your backups meaningful playing time? What's especially perplexing to me is how Gaston Moore followed him over from UCF and knows the offense and he hasn't gotten any snaps really. I'm going to be really mad if I don't see Nico or Gaston throwing passes to starting receivers in the bowl.
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And I am sure if there were to play a lot and Tennessee lost, you will be upset and complaining about that.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
There is a relationship between experience and efficiency. Or we can just ignore that and draw straws to see who plays.
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Carson Beck had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for UGA.
Jalen Milroe had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for Bama.

If Nico is capable as what folks think he is, he will be just fine.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Carson Beck had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for UGA.
Jalen Milroe had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for Bama.

If Nico is capable as what folks think he is, he will be just fine.
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They were both playing behind 2 of the best quarterbacks their schools have produced.

Nico was not. No reason not to play him and be better prepared for next season. Watching 7 was tough knowing CJH was not going to pull him. Ever.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I was reading an article earlier today where Heupel admitted that having Nico on the roster makes it hard to get an experienced quality QB in the portal. Heupel also admitted that lack of qb experience is a concern. My question to Heupel would be why haven't you given either of your backups meaningful playing time? What's especially perplexing to me is how Gaston Moore followed him over from UCF and knows the offense and he hasn't gotten any snaps really. I'm going to be really mad if I don't see Nico or Gaston throwing passes to starting receivers in the bowl.
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Ok
 
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This is the last time Joe gets to play QB for Tennessee. It's over after this. Let's not get too worked up about it on either side of the argument. By all accounts, Nico has improved greatly as the year has went along. He'll be fine. No need to throw a true freshman QB to the wolves if you can help it. He is our future and will win us a lot of games....book it.
 
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DaddyChad said:
What I took from this thread is several people know little to nothing about football and are going to be mad.
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Fans gonna fan lol.

…and it seemingly never occurs to them that the head coach has a 7 figure income on the line and has no interest in drawing straws, guessing, playing favorites or doing anything with the depth chart other than what’s best for the program.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Carson Beck had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for UGA.
Jalen Milroe had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for Bama.

If Nico is capable as what folks think he is, he will be just fine.
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Exactly got thrown out as basically a kid 😂 I was there lol Nico will be fine
 
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volfan102455 said:
Carson Beck had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for UGA.
Jalen Milroe had limited playing time last year - He did just fine for Bama.

If Nico is capable as what folks think he is, he will be just fine.
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Stop that! Just stop it! This thread was going and growing and YOU had to get truthful on us! SMH ….Now… got to drag myself out of bed WITH THE FLU and act like giraffes really aren’t selfish…just running around looking out for #1. 🙄🙄🙄
 
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Jxn Vol said:
They were both playing behind 2 of the best quarterbacks their schools have produced.

Nico was not. No reason not to play him and be better prepared for next season. Watching 7 was tough knowing CJH was not going to pull him. Ever.
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Oh please - Joe was the experienced QB. He was winning games and keeping us in others. You don't bench a QB just because fans want to see the backup when he is leading the team just fine.

Nico would have played more if the season allowed but the way the games played out, there was not that much opportunity to give him playing time.

And while some of you seem to be 'okay' with throwing the season away just so NICO could play, had that happened and we really tanked - like not make a bowl or lose 6 games you all would be asking why he didn't start Milton and calling for the coach to be fired.

Let the coach coach the team.
 
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And those on this thread that are saying play Nico, if we do that and lose and then fall out of the top 25, you will be complaining about that.

We have much greater things to worry about like - who is going to play in the defensive back field. It is probably good that we are playing against a team that doesn't usually have much offense. With all the players who have hit the portal they may all of a sudden start scoring and scoring a lot.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I was reading an article earlier today where Heupel admitted that having Nico on the roster makes it hard to get an experienced quality QB in the portal. Heupel also admitted that lack of qb experience is a concern. My question to Heupel would be why haven't you given either of your backups meaningful playing time? What's especially perplexing to me is how Gaston Moore followed him over from UCF and knows the offense and he hasn't gotten any snaps really. I'm going to be really mad if I don't see Nico or Gaston throwing passes to starting receivers in the bowl.
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The key is that the PRACTICES are invaluable. The game is meaningless. It’s Joe’s team, let him play if he wants to.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Happened this year also.

Fact is not getting Nico meaningful snaps this year has the potential to hurt us next year.
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I trust JH here. We don't know what's behind the scenes. For all we know, Nico + family may have wanted the RS season, knowing pencil thin QB's can get broken in the SEC gauntlet. Though I'd have liked to see Nico have more action, in theory, he's only going to get 3 years in Vol uniform, so may as well max out on those three years. Sometimes you get shell shocked as a frosh if the situation's not right...
 
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orangemadam said:
Just an old cliche

Nico will have bowl game, spring game, fall, and a few cupcakes to start the season.
Plenty of experience leading up to meaningful games in SEC.
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NC State won't be easy, but the schedule in '24 definitely sets up for about the most gentle start an SEC team could ask for while breaking in a new QB. And when the schedule does ramp up, Oklahoma in week 4 tends to give up yards and points.
 
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One of the reasons for Joe to get all the work was that our most challenging games were late in the season - Bama, UGA, Mizzou. So giving our starter (who needed all the experience and confidence he could get) most of the game reps made sense.
 
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Fact
Nico had more pass attempts this year than the main backups at the following schools.
Michigan, Washington, Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Missouri, and Penn State. 7 of the top t0. And those teams had more blow out wins than Tenn..
I guess the coaches for all those teams are idiots.
 
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volfan102455 said:
Oh please - Joe was the experienced QB. He was winning games and keeping us in others. You don't bench a QB just because fans want to see the backup when he is leading the team just fine.

Nico would have played more if the season allowed but the way the games played out, there was not that much opportunity to give him playing time.

And while some of you seem to be 'okay' with throwing the season away just so NICO could play, had that happened and we really tanked - like not make a bowl or lose 6 games you all would be asking why he didn't start Milton and calling for the coach to be fired.

Let the coach coach the team.
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OL, DL, and RBs kept us in games. Not JM. Better QB play could have been the difference in games also.

JH has a blind spot with 7. Just the way it is. I wish him well but I am ready to watch a QB that can actually run the offense like Hooker. Because what we saw this year was not great. I won’t apologize for wanting us to be great.
 
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Longsufferingvol said:
I was reading an article earlier today where Heupel admitted that having Nico on the roster makes it hard to get an experienced quality QB in the portal. Heupel also admitted that lack of qb experience is a concern. My question to Heupel would be why haven't you given either of your backups meaningful playing time? What's especially perplexing to me is how Gaston Moore followed him over from UCF and knows the offense and he hasn't gotten any snaps really. I'm going to be really mad if I don't see Nico or Gaston throwing passes to starting receivers in the bowl.
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Getting people playing time does not make them quality. He means a veteran QB that knows the system and has had some game time. His point is that QB's in portal want to start they see Nico they dont see a path to starting outside of injury. We played QB's every time we had a chance which wasn't much this season because we were trying to win.
 
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iuvol said:
Fulmer did the same thing, If I remember correctly Tee Martin played 2 or 4 snaps Peyton's senior year, that used to frustrate me as well.
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Tee was 6-12 on pass attempts in 1997 for 85 yards and 1 interception.. also had 8 rushing attempts for 22 yards.. Its was Peyton's Heisman campaign that limited him..
 
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