Man, I hope Worley's ticked off...

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I just hope he actually keeps the ball and runs on a read option just once in a game.



Be careful what you hope for. He could run the ball in the first game and end up like Jerry Colquitt...... Then what?

Dobbs as the starter and Peterman as the back up with Peterman having a good chance to play this season, should Dobbs get hurt?
 
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Nick Marshall is the best QB in the SEC??

Who out there is better? The guy carried his team to the BCSNC game and nearly won it. The top guys are gone from last year, so I'm really not seeing the problem here. Unless the ranking is "How Well Will They Do as NFL Pocket Passers".
 
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a good point for sure,North should stand out this year and hopefully the rest will too,I'm like others though,the O Line is a big concern

what do you think about them ?

and who is this QB guru you speak of ?
George Whitfield is the QB guru. The list of guys he's worked with is like a who's who of NFL guys. Both Worley and Dobbs traveled to work out at his camp.
 
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Why? With all of the other weapons on this team? Maybe once or twice, but why do we want our QB to run the ball? He did outrun Maybin in the spring game so he may be more athletic than we are led to believe.

or maybe our defense really sucks.
 
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I remember a QB from the 90's who did not have a cannon arm or rocket legs, and never made the NFL to my knowledge but he won a lot of games because he managed the team. He got the ball to the right guy. Anyone remember Andy Kelly. I remember being at Notre Dame and seeing him toss a little flare to Aaron Hayden that put us ahead. I know he had more proven players around him, but I do believe if Worley makes the right mental decisions he has the skills to get the ball to the actual play makers on this team.

He will have a more experienced and deeper WR corps, plus a year of working with them.
He will have more and better weapons at TE.
He will have equal or better RB support.

He did lead us to a win over SC and almost did the same against UGA. I am not sure why everyone is down on him. I believe our OL will be a bigger determinant to this year's offense success than Worley.
 
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Other than the pure runners like Marshall, how many if any of the guys on that list would have been more successful with the situation Worley dealt with last fall? WR's played poorly while developing- no real "go to", dependable all the time guy until North began to "get it". Brand new system- which Worley didn't seem to struggle with from a mental standpoint but almost everyone around him did including the OL.
 
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They ranked QB's that have never played over a QB who led one of the worst teams in the History of the Vols to upset No.10 USC

I don't see how people who are payed to do this stuff can be so stupid.

Not saying he should be highly ranked... but that list is crapola on a stick

only time will tell. I dont think Worley is that great and I dont think a new o-line is going to make him any better.

At the end of the day I think its perfectly reasonable to see those new QBs end up with better numbers than Worley.

Some people just hang on to the idea that what Tennessee puts on the field is going to be good enough but our program was driven so far in the dirt by Dooley that we have some truly sorry QB play out of Worley.

Its the reason I called for a jihad against the Dooley family, but people just called me negative. But they just cant see past the orange colored glasses to see how badly our school was tarnished to the point that we get ranked last in so many categories.

Instead of making excuses and putting people down for pointing out the obvious, you should get mad as hell and start cracking skulls like the Bammers do. At least they have their priorities straight as fans. We just continue to make excuses instead of putting some Terry Tate hurting on somebody in the UTADs office.
 
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I just hope he actually keeps the ball and runs on a read option just once in a game.
Do the math.

Coaches wanted to RS both Ferguson and Dobbs and Worley passed on opportunities to run in spite of being pretty effective on his few run attempts. They could have NEVER come out and said, "Justin isn't running because we don't want to get him hurt"... but that's sure what it looked like.

He's not "nifty" but he isn't Bray either... and he isn't a coward by a long stretch.
 
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What a BS set of rankings! :banghead2:

I believe Worley beat SC, which ended the year ranked 4th in the nation, correct??? :blink:
take my advice and go back and watch that SC game, we won, despite of Worley. Worley does sucks, hes an qb with very limited abilities, did you watch him in the spring game? I still do not understand why Dooley gave this kid a scholarship!
 
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Do the math.

Coaches wanted to RS both Ferguson and Dobbs and Worley passed on opportunities to run in spite of being pretty effective on his few run attempts. They could have NEVER come out and said, "Justin isn't running because we don't want to get him hurt"... but that's sure what it looked like.

He's not "nifty" but he isn't Bray either... and he isn't a coward by a long stretch.

I think Butch Jones did not fully trust any of the QBs he had when he coached his first year. He saw how sorry his options were and just decided to go 3-and-out as much as possible.
 
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only time will tell. I dont think Worley is that great and I dont think a new o-line is going to make him any better.

At the end of the day I think its perfectly reasonable to see those new QBs end up with better numbers than Worley.

Some people just hang on to the idea that what Tennessee puts on the field is going to be good enough but our program was driven so far in the dirt by Dooley that we have some truly sorry QB play out of Worley.

And some people ignore the situation Worley had to deal with and just simplistically blame everything on him or his supposed "lack of talent".

I do not know how good Worley is capable of being. I am absolutely sure that he's much better than we saw last year.
 
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Other than the pure runners like Marshall, how many if any of the guys on that list would have been more successful with the situation Worley dealt with last fall? WR's played poorly while developing- no real "go to", dependable all the time guy until North began to "get it". Brand new system- which Worley didn't seem to struggle with from a mental standpoint but almost everyone around him did including the OL.

Its just going to be a whole new set of troubles that he has to deal with this year. New o-line, very raw and inexperienced receivers and backs, a defense that is going to give up a ton of points such that Worley is going to be forced to run a pass-happy offense.

Its going to be ugly, at least as ugly as last year until our key play makers have a chance to grow up in the SEC.
 
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I think Butch Jones did not fully trust any of the QBs he had when he coached his first year. He saw how sorry his options were and just decided to go 3-and-out as much as possible.

Yeah. That sounds reasonable... :no:

There is almost no doubt that Jones wanted his QB of the future to emerge before last season... they guy who would be with him for '15 or maybe even '16. He seemed to do everything he could to give the other 3 guys ample opportunity to take the job away from Worley. They flat couldn't do it. He did the same again this spring. Still... no one could take the job from him including Ferguson (who I believe you were gushing about).
 
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Its just going to be a whole new set of troubles that he has to deal with this year. New o-line, very raw and inexperienced receivers and backs, a defense that is going to give up a ton of points such that Worley is going to be forced to run a pass-happy offense.

Its going to be ugly, at least as ugly as last year until our key play makers have a chance to grow up in the SEC.

Wow, don't see it that way at all. Last year we had a bad combination of inexperience at QB/WR and a whole new offense. Granted the OL may be a concern but I expect to see a much improved offense overall.
 
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Yeah. That sounds reasonable... :no:

There is almost no doubt that Jones wanted his QB of the future to emerge before last season... they guy who would be with him for '15 or maybe even '16. He seemed to do everything he could to give the other 3 guys ample opportunity to take the job away from Worley. They flat couldn't do it. He did the same again this spring. Still... no one could take the job from him including Ferguson (who I believe you were gushing about).

I most definitely never gushed about any of UTs QBs.... ever.

Butch Jones inherited Worley who in my opinion is a career backup at any other school. He wanted desperately for one of these "elite 11" QBs to step up. But that designation is such a crock when you look at the history of who ESPN thinks is going to be a good QB. Butch basically couldnt do anything about it, so he just hoped for the best and rode out the season. That was obvious by the ultra conservative play calling and the nervous shuffling of starting QBs. Just striking that flint hoping that something caught fire. This year the QB situation will probably be worse because Ferguson bolted because he couldnt handle not beating out Worleys sorry butt. We are in dire dire straights at the QB position.

Anything can happen in college football, but nobody has a right to criticize these analysis for ranking us dead last based on the body of work. It just isnt right to do that.
 
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What a BS set of rankings! :banghead2:

I believe Worley beat SC, which ended the year ranked 4th in the nation, correct??? :blink:


take my advice and go back and watch that SC game, we won, despite of Worley. Worley does sucks, hes an qb with very limited abilities, did you watch him in the spring game? I still do not understand why Dooley gave this kid a scholarship!

It's sad to listen to fans like yourself berate an athlete who's a D1 player.. or any kid for that matter on scholarship when you have never set foot on the field in that capacity. Truly amazing. But then again, you always have pee-wee football to look back on and remember your glory days.
 
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It's sad to listen to fans like yourself berate an athlete who's a D1 player.. or any kid for that matter on scholarship when you have never set foot on the field in that capacity. Truly amazing. But then again, you always have pee-wee football to look back on and remember your glory days.

I think you should have some integrity and also say that if you have never set foot on the field, you have no business giving your support to a player blindly.

Now, I think both those points are absolute garbage to begin with. I may never have been gifted enough physically to play football but that doesnt mean that I dont know what I am looking at. Your excuse is just a cop-out for athletes.
 
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I think you should have some integrity and also say that if you have never set foot on the field, you have no business giving your support to a player blindly.

Now, I think both those points are absolute garbage to begin with. I may never have been gifted enough physically to play football but that doesnt mean that I dont know what I am looking at. Your excuse is just a cop-out for athletes.
Actually, I think Janthony is annoyed by your impetuous negativity regarding subjects about which you overrate yourself. "Dooley Jihadist?" Your subjectivity leans toward casting aspersions toward people/athletes who can't possibly be as bad as you portray. BTW, I played a lot of football and "from my perspective" I disagree with yours. Worley's a gifted athlete and, start or not, he'll be much improved this year.
 
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Actually, I think Janthony is annoyed by your impetuous negativity regarding subjects about which you overrate yourself. "Dooley Jihadist?" Your subjectivity leans toward casting aspersions toward people/athletes who can't possibly be as bad as you portray. BTW, I played a lot of football and "from my perspective" I disagree with yours. Worley's a gifted athlete and, start or not, he'll be much improved this year.


I think if you are referring to me you should re-read what I wrote. I only offered my opinion on those that tear down athletes.
 
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Actually, I think Janthony is annoyed by your impetuous negativity regarding subjects about which you overrate yourself. "Dooley Jihadist?" Your subjectivity leans toward casting aspersions toward people/athletes who can't possibly be as bad as you portray. BTW, I played a lot of football and "from my perspective" I disagree with yours. Worley's a gifted athlete and, start or not, he'll be much improved this year.

Actually Janthony was responding to another post. Not mine. I simply pointed out how one-sided his comment was.

Also, Derek Dooley has and will continue to go down as the worst college football head coaching flop of all time. He will be infamous for all time in the history of UT football and SEC football. People tend to underestimate the depths of his ineptitude, I believe, because they dont want to face the fact that this guy was associated with the great UT. Like a dog that just took a crap on your floor, you brush it under the rug, gloss over the whole thing and "move on".

Worley can be a gifted athlete, more than I ever was, and that still does not change that he had no business being a starter in the SEC. His existence in our program is solely the function of the shape our program was put in by the series of calamitous events that ensued after the firing of Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer apologist nor do I think Fulmer should have remained our coach. But nary a program in the history of football has bungled a coaching transition in such a monumentally inept was as the UTAD.

Soon Coach Jones will begin winning big games again simply through the attrition of Dooley's players, adding to it his own recruits who are a cut well above what Dooley brought in, including but not limited to Worley.
 
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I think that Worley will have a solid year, but the magnitude will depend on the O-Line. IIRC, Worley was a Gatorade Player of the Year, which is not a small achievement and not just handed out for any QB.

From a personal basis, Worleys' largest challenge may be overcoming the lack of talent development from Dooley's tenure. This can be said of many of the recruits from that window.
 
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Its just going to be a whole new set of troubles that he has to deal with this year. New o-line, very raw and inexperienced receivers and backs, a defense that is going to give up a ton of points such that Worley is going to be forced to run a pass-happy offense.

Its going to be ugly, at least as ugly as last year until our key play makers have a chance to grow up in the SEC.

That's some confidence you show in the coaching staff.

Can you remind me again what they're getting paid for? If they have not developed the guys they have beyond the expectations you have expressed here... then you can stop blaming Dooley for EVERYTHING.

Three of the OL starters could have stepped in last year with no drop off whatsoever... I think Crowder and Jackson would have been upgrades over Stone and Bullard.

If North, Pig, Smith, and Croom aren't ready to be "key play makers" then again... what exactly is Azzanni getting paid to do?
 

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