Man, I hope Worley's ticked off...

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allenrikvik said:
I think that Worley will have a solid year, but the magnitude will depend on the O-Line. IIRC, Worley was a Gatorade Player of the Year, which is not a small achievement and not just handed out for any QB.

From a personal basis, Worleys' largest challenge may be overcoming the lack of talent development from Dooley's tenure. This can be said of many of the recruits from that window.
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Chaney is a good OC.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I most definitely never gushed about any of UTs QBs.... ever.

Butch Jones inherited Worley who in my opinion is a career backup at any other school. He wanted desperately for one of these "elite 11" QBs to step up. But that designation is such a crock when you look at the history of who ESPN thinks is going to be a good QB. Butch basically couldnt do anything about it, so he just hoped for the best and rode out the season. That was obvious by the ultra conservative play calling and the nervous shuffling of starting QBs. Just striking that flint hoping that something caught fire. This year the QB situation will probably be worse because Ferguson bolted because he couldnt handle not beating out Worleys sorry butt. We are in dire dire straights at the QB position.
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You tell really good stories at parties, don't you? I mean there are some elements of truth in this... but the things that make it interesting are BS.

Anything can happen in college football, but nobody has a right to criticize these analysis for ranking us dead last based on the body of work. It just isnt right to do that.
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I personally think ALL of the pre-season stuff is a crock. These writers never get held accountable. If someone has a bad season then those fanbases would rather just forget about it. If someone is better than expected then those fanbases forget to care.

I'd care more about these types of projections if there were stories about guys getting fired for underestimating Auburn and Mizzou last year. Then they'd actually have some motivation to put in some research and genuine thought.
 
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chad4930 said:
George Whitfield is the QB guru. The list of guys he's worked with is like a who's who of NFL guys. Both Worley and Dobbs traveled to work out at his camp.
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But I am sure he wastes his time on no talent bums....:whistling:
 
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Worley did not beat SC, they beat themselves, he threw one lame pass that the receiver made a great play on, and we kicked a field goal to beat them. You can say our defense beat them more than that Worley beat them, and he will be the same inconsistent passer he has always been. He will not be the starter by the end of the season, at least I hope not!
 
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LA vol7 said:
Worley did not beat SC, they beat themselves, he threw one lame pass that the receiver made a great play on, and we kicked a field goal to beat them. You can say our defense beat them more than that Worley beat them, and he will be the same inconsistent passer he has always been. He will not be the starter by the end of the season, at least I hope not!
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If the WR play is anywhere close to as inconsistent as it was for the first 5 games of last season... it simply won't matter who the QB is.

No one guy ever beats an opponent. But only an abject idiot refuses to give Worley credit for his part in winning that game. He threw for almost 400 yds between those two games, 2 TD's, had no turnovers, and managed the O to be in a position to win both games. He did that with a WR corps that was probably the least experienced in the SEC and that was at best unreliable.
 
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sjt18 said:
If the WR play is anywhere close to as inconsistent as it was for the first 5 games of last season... it simply won't matter who the QB is.

No one guy ever beats an opponent. But only an abject idiot refuses to give Worley credit for his part in winning that game. He threw for almost 400 yds between those two games, 2 TD's, had no turnovers, and managed the O to be in a position to win both games. He did that with a WR corps that was probably the least experienced in the SEC and that was at best unreliable.
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Th WRs were definitely an issue at times . . . but, come on, Worley just wasn't very good against SC. He threw for 179 and half of that was on two jump balls that North made insane catches on. In the 2nd half, other than the two jump balls, his longest completion was 6 yards.
 
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CroKev said:
Just saw this FoxSports ranking of SEC QBs and Worley's dead last at 14. Granted, Worley is not the next Manning but they rank a bunch of guys who've never started or even played in the SEC ahead of him. I hope he's really ticked off about this and plays with a chip on his shoulder this year.

Ranking the SEC quarterbacks from best to 'most to prove' | FOX Sports on MSN
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That's more about indecision as to who is going to be the QB this year.

It's going to be Dobbs, not Worley. Dobb's game is coming on and he lets CBJ's offense go Full Monty. Worley makes sense only if you got another pocket passer who hasn't out done him.

I think even Peterman will have shown massive improvement. He was thrown to the wolves last year, with UF's defense being the best in the country at that point in the year (before all those injuries). Remember, even Peyton Manning looked BAD in the Superbowl, against a really stout defense

Peterman was literally a freshman last year...having no previous playing experience and under a totally new staff/system. All his critics conveniently forget that.

Peterman was like most freshmen....getting adjusted to the speed of college football and more importantly, the SEC. With another offseason under the same staff, he took will likely make a major leap.

But Worley, I'm not sure his ceiling is as high as either Dobbs or Peterman, in CVJ's offense. I wouldn't be surprised if CBJ split the Utah State game up to see who really shines when the lights come on.
 
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GAVol said:
Th WRs were definitely an issue at times . . . but, come on, Worley just wasn't very good against SC. He threw for 179 and half of that was on two jump balls that North made insane catches on. In the 2nd half, other than the two jump balls, his longest completion was 6 yards.
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Managed the game. Threw for 55%. Didn't turn it over. Didn't make the "big" mistake. Helped put his team in a position to win. Made plays when he had to.

He did his job. He did it with Clowney pretty much owning Tiny. He did it with WR's that struggled to get off coverage.

He did what he had to do... I'll take it.

Weren't you not long ago chastising me for questioning questionable coaching? Now you want to take a shot at a player who was a leader when UT's O needed one?
 
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You know this list is bad when they take a guy who hasn't played that much, apparently isn't a guaranteed starter, and says "Screw it. NUMBER EIGHT!"
 
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thomaseusin said:
I Hurd we beat the 6th ranked team in the country last year, with Worley at the Helm.

He's been a loyal soldier and a great Pearson.

He won't carry this team mAlone and with a great supporting cast, has a Gaulden opportunity to Wolf down his critics and lead us to a Medley of Berries and Cream(er).
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Von is a great Pearson JMO
 
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Worley's accuracy was way off early, which led to the Peterman experiment. Even on a little Flare route to RN...Worley would throw it at his feet.
He showed improvement later in the season and made some awesome throws... North endzone catch was beautiful.
I hope he really steps it up this season...and if not, I hope Dobbs brings it AND continues to rush..... which Worley most likely won't do for yds, in key games, that may be the difference in us getting to a bowl game or not.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
That's more about indecision as to who is going to be the QB this year.

It's going to be Dobbs, not Worley. Dobb's game is coming on and he lets CBJ's offense go Full Monty. Worley makes sense only if you got another pocket passer who hasn't out done him. .
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Worley makes sense if he's the guy who wins the job... so far... he has... consistently.

Dobb's development should result in Worley running more whether you believe he chose not to or they told him not to. He was effective when he ran. IIRC, I think Jones said he didn't want his QB running but a couple of times per game regardless of who it is. You seem to think he wants much more than that.

If he does then he has a really, really strange way of showing it. His top QB in the '15 class is like Worley. He's a pro-style QB with enough athleticism to run and keep D's honest. If Jones wanted what YOU think he wants then he wouldn't waste a scholarship on a kid like that.
 
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sjt18 said:
Worley makes sense if he's the guy who wins the job... so far... he has... consistently.

Dobb's development should result in Worley running more whether you believe he chose not to or they told him not to. He was effective when he ran. IIRC, I think Jones said he didn't want his QB running but a couple of times per game regardless of who it is. You seem to think he wants much more than that.

If he does then he has a really, really strange way of showing it. His top QB in the '15 class is like Worley. He's a pro-style QB with enough athleticism to run and keep D's honest. If Jones wanted what YOU think he wants then he wouldn't waste a scholarship on a kid like that.
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Dormady is only a 4* on 247. He's a 2 or 3* on all the others....so, don't be christening him the QB of the future just yet. He didn't even play last year.

What's more is, Jennings is the No.1 player from the state of TN this year (4* on most services) and looks like he fits CBJ's system better than Dormady. He went through Gruden's camp here recently and got rave reviews, so HE is likely going to be the next starter after Dobbs...not Dormady.

Dormady is probably more like Peterman...not a real threat to hurt teams when pulling the ball, but athletic enough to get some 1st downs now and then.

Worley doesn't run the ball cause he knows he sucks at it. And just like Kaepernick in the NFL...he doesn't run it a lot, but when he DOES, his speed and athleticism has the potential to break the backs of opponents and blow the game open.

That's what Dobbs and Jennings give Bajakian. Worley doesn't...period.
 
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sjt18 said:
Worley makes sense if he's the guy who wins the job... so far... he has... consistently.

Dobb's development should result in Worley running more whether you believe he chose not to or they told him not to. He was effective when he ran. IIRC, I think Jones said he didn't want his QB running but a couple of times per game regardless of who it is. You seem to think he wants much more than that.

If he does then he has a really, really strange way of showing it. His top QB in the '15 class is like Worley. He's a pro-style QB with enough athleticism to run and keep D's honest. If Jones wanted what YOU think he wants then he wouldn't waste a scholarship on a kid like that.
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I agree SJT, I don't think Jones is looking for a QB that is a constant threat to run....but wanting an accurate QB that runs more than twice a season. I don't know if Worley can keep Defenses honest in regards to "run threat". Dobbs leans more that way....the little we've seen him. So, like you mentioned... athleticism is the key in addition to.......
 
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GrowVol said:
I agree SJT, I don't think Jones is looking for a QB that is a constant threat to run....but wanting an accurate QB that runs more than twice a season. I don't know if Worley can keep Defenses honest in regards to "run threat". Dobbs leans more that way....the little we've seen him. So, like you mentioned... athleticism is the key in addition to.......
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I don't think CBJ's system is much different than Oregon's. Look at Mariotta. He doesn't pull it down and run it a high percentage, either. But when he does, he has the speed and athleticism to make defenses pay a hefty price for ignoring him.

That's what we have with Dobbs, and when Jennings gets here. Jennings tape shows one play that should be an ESPN top 10 of the year. He's being converged on by several defenders, and it looks like he's just going to duck down and prepare to be tackled...but at the last second he spins out in a way that would make Houdini blush.

CBJ prefers an athlete who can sling the rock pretty well. To me, Peterman and Dormady are somewhat borderline in that regard. They are athletic ENOUGH. But it's like asking a girl to the prom. Do you want fair enough, or the prettiest girl you can get to go with you?

Personally, I don't think Worley fits that mold. He's pretty much a led-footed statue being asked to run enough to keep defenses honest...to just get a few yards. He had seniority going for him last year. That's not really an advantage for him this season.

Remember, Munchie Legeux was starting ahead of Kay (when Butch was coaching UC in 2012)...even though Kay got the nod later on in the season. That shows his preference.
 
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janthony81 said:
take my advice and go back and watch that SC game, we won, despite of Worley. Worley does sucks, hes an qb with very limited abilities, did you watch him in the spring game? I still do not understand why Dooley gave this kid a scholarship!
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Pretty much lost me there. I could highlight the whole post as crap too. Just sayin.
 
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sjt18 said:
If the WR play is anywhere close to as inconsistent as it was for the first 5 games of last season... it simply won't matter who the QB is.

No one guy ever beats an opponent. But only an abject idiot refuses to give Worley credit for his part in winning that game. He threw for almost 400 yds between those two games, 2 TD's, had no turnovers, and managed the O to be in a position to win both games. He did that with a WR corps that was probably the least experienced in the SEC and that was at best unreliable.
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Even the coaches were quoted that Worley had the ball where the receivers supposed to be. The offense is a west coast timing offense. A certain spot at a certain time. The receivers route running is what was off. I totally agree with you.
 
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janthony81 said:
take my advice and go back and watch that SC game, we won, despite of Worley. Worley does sucks, hes an qb with very limited abilities, did you watch him in the spring game? I still do not understand why Dooley gave this kid a scholarship!
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I don't think Worley "sucks"...I just don't see him fitting Bajakian's offense as well. Butch said last year, when Dobbs went in, that Dobbs allowed the staff to open the playbook up more, because of his athleticism.

Experience/seniority got Worley the nod last year (remember, he was never handed the starting job until the week before the first game). If there were clear separation between him and the others, Worley would have gotten the nod sooner and more reps with the first team.

I'm sure CBJ wants to reward Worley for his patience, but if he really feels he has a better chance to win with Dobbs, I don't think he hesitates to make that call.

This is why I personally expect to see Dobbs getting the majority of snaps a few weeks before the season kickoff.
 
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GAVol said:
Did you actually watch the SC game? The offense was Marquez North catching jump balls. Worley didn't beat anybody. He was missing key throws all day.
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I'm trying to understand. You're saying that Worley made the throw and North made a lot of catches in the USCe game last yr. Sounds like completions to me doesn't matter how you spin it.

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