Manti Te'o's Dead girlfriend never existed?

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VolMaster14 said:
Passing judgment? From the details in that article, I have as much right to call him out as you do to protect him.
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From Deadspin? And Notre Dame already states that Manti was part of a hoax.

So why believe Deadspin over Notre Dame, who is putting their reputation on the line here.

Anyways, I'm not trying to ultra protect him or anything. I want to believe this was a cruel joke because this is awful if ture. I'm just trying to make sense of it for the most part. And at no point have I heard a reasonable explanation for why Manti Te'o would have a fake girlfriend and then fake her death.
 
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bentenn said:
Also, if she flew to Hawaii to see him...they either did in fact meet, or it was made up by him. The ND statement sounds like 100% crap
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Notre Dame is putting its neck out for Manti, when they don't actually have to at this point.

I think it holds a little bit of credence.
 
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zjcvols said:
Let's, for a second, imagine this conversation:

Friend (Ronnie Tuisappo or whatever): "Dude, I got an idea as to how to boost your popularity."

Manti: "Okay, let's hear it."

Ronnie: "You have this fake girlfriend for a year or so. We put it on twitter and everything. Then, we say she dies of leukemia. People will eat it up!"

Manti: "Sounds good! Let's do it!"

Who has that conversation?

Remember, the article states they met either in 2009 or starting twittering each other in 2010. So they carried this out for allegedly 2-3 years...
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And he became a sympathetic figure due to the stories that came out. Some people cut themselves. Some people are drama queens. Some people seek sympathy.
Doesn't seem far fetched to me. Just because he is a football player and Mormon doesn't mean he isn't an idiot.
 
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zjcvols said:
From Deadspin? And Notre Dame already states that Manti was part of a hoax.

So why believe Deadspin over Notre Dame, who is putting their reputation on the line here.

Anyways, I'm not trying to ultra protect him or anything. I want to believe this was a cruel joke because this is awful if ture. I'm just trying to make sense of it for the most part. And at no point have I heard a reasonable explanation for why Manti Te'o would have a fake girlfriend and then fake her death.
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You need to quit wanting to believe something and look at the facts.
 
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zjcvols said:
From Deadspin? And Notre Dame already states that Manti was part of a hoax.

So why believe Deadspin over Notre Dame, who is putting their reputation on the line here.

Anyways, I'm not trying to ultra protect him or anything. I want to believe this was a cruel joke because this is awful if ture. I'm just trying to make sense of it for the most part. And at no point have I heard a reasonable explanation for why Manti Te'o would have a fake girlfriend and then fake her death.
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lol you dont find it weird that Notre Dame releases this statement after the deadspin article breaks, even though it was supposed to be known a hoax since dec 26th according to them?
 
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golfballs said:
So pretty much seals him as a liar.
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That's fine. I think most individuals would be justified in lying, about having an internet relationship/love affair, to a generation that in no way understands such things and would pass judgment for those things.

It was not more than ten years ago that internet dating was absolutely frowned upon and individuals who resorted to dating sites were viewed as absolutely desperate pariahs. Now, internet dating is just seen as another medium for meeting people and it is quite popular (at least in Boston/Chicago/Seattle/Kansas City).

Te'o may have felt ashamed for falling in love with someone on the internet and having a relationship that only consisted of internet chats (and, quite possibly, phone calls if there was a girl in on it...which would make his dad's story, that he had spoken with her on the phone, entirely legit). That does not meant that Te'o could not have legitimately had feelings for this phantom, though.
 
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zjcvols said:
Let's, for a second, imagine this conversation:

Friend (Ronnie Tuisappo or whatever): "Dude, I got an idea as to how to boost your popularity."

Manti: "Okay, let's hear it."

Ronnie: "You have this fake girlfriend for a year or so. We put it on twitter and everything. Then, we say she dies of leukemia. People will eat it up!"

Manti: "Sounds good! Let's do it!"

Who has that conversation?

Remember, the article states they met either in 2009 or starting twittering each other in 2010. So they carried this out for allegedly 2-3 years...
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A megalomaniacal sociopath. This entire thing is odd. You can't make this stuff up. Someone is lying and I find it hard to believe that he was deceived by an imaginary girlfriend or that he would perpetuate this entire thing. They met, kept a long-distance relationship, and then she ended the relationship with some faux ailment and eventually death. The girl actually exists, she ran a fake name and education, etc. I'm still not sure what the the goal was by the girl if true.
 
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therealUT said:
That's fine. I think most individuals would be justified in lying, about having an internet relationship/love affair, to a generation that in no way understands such things and would pass judgment for those things.

It was not more than ten years ago that internet dating was absolutely frowned upon and individuals who resorted to dating sites were viewed as absolutely desperate pariahs. Now, internet dating is just seen as another medium for meeting people and it is quite popular (at least in Boston/Chicago/Seattle/Kansas City).

Te'o may have felt ashamed for falling in love with someone on the internet and having a relationship that only consisted of internet chats (and, quite possibly, phone calls if there was a girl in on it...which would make his dad's story, that he had spoken with her on the phone, entirely legit). That does not meant that Te'o could not have legitimately had feelings for this phantom, though.
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If it were true. Doesn't appear to be the case.
 
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zjcvols said:
Notre Dame is putting its neck out for Manti, when they don't actually have to at this point.

I think it holds a little bit of credence.
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True dat. Though it would of been a good idea to make this known after Dec 26 as opposed to wait till it's dragged out across the internuts.
 
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jpope9 said:
lol you dont find it weird that Notre Dame releases this statement after the deadspin article breaks, even though it was supposed to be known a hoax since dec 26th according to them?
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You mean, over Christmas and leading up to the biggest ND football game in over twenty years?

No, I do not find that weird at all...
 
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zjcvols said:
From Deadspin? And Notre Dame already states that Manti was part of a hoax.

So why believe Deadspin over Notre Dame, who is putting their reputation on the line here.

Anyways, I'm not trying to ultra protect him or anything. I want to believe this was a cruel joke because this is awful if ture. I'm just trying to make sense of it for the most part. And at no point have I heard a reasonable explanation for why Manti Te'o would have a fake girlfriend and then fake her death.
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At the very least, he claimed to talk on the phone every night and fall asleep on the phone... but I guess they could have some random girl talk to him as well, but it seems strange.
 
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golfballs said:
If it were true. Doesn't appear to be the case.
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What do you mean it does not appear to be the case? The reverse does not appear to be the case, either. The only thing that can be asserted is that she did not exist. There are reasons to believe that Te'o was a victim; there are reasons to believe that Te'o was in on it. Both reasons involve Te'o being stupid, but one of them is a stupidity induced by infatuation (which we can all attest to), the other is just massive, cold, calculating idiocy.
 
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zjcvols said:
From Deadspin? And Notre Dame already states that Manti was part of a hoax.

So why believe Deadspin over Notre Dame, who is putting their reputation on the line here.

Anyways, I'm not trying to ultra protect him or anything. I want to believe this was a cruel joke because this is awful if ture. I'm just trying to make sense of it for the most part. And at no point have I heard a reasonable explanation for why Manti Te'o would have a fake girlfriend and then fake her death.
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Why does anyone do stupid sh*t? I don't know Manti Te'o so I have no reason to think he's a good person just because the media portrays him so? Maybe he didn't plan on ever going public with it but espn wanted to do a story on it and he was in to deep. Dead Spinmay not be the NY Times but like iI said earlier, it was a pretty detailed article and why would Dead Spin wanna go after Manti Te'o?
 
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CMcEver said:
At the very least, he claimed to talk on the phone every night and fall asleep on the phone... but I guess they could have some random girl talk to him as well, but it seems strange.
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Or, he could be lying, because he did not want to say, "Yeah, I chatted with her and fapped to pictures she was sending every night".
 
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