Manziel Being Investigated

#51
#51
Wonder how much he can get for his Heisman?

Aggie boosters gave Eric Dickerson a Trans Am to go to SMU where CJK5H...alledgedly.
 
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bamawriter said:
If JFF is out, our only real competition is LSU, and they lost a ton this year. So Atlanta is guaranteed, and I like our chances against the little sister division.

So yeah. Threepeat confirmed.
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You sir are a smug and obnoxious sports fan that represents a school with a fairly long history of cheating. You must be the one with the bammer tattoo (see other thread). Please go away and drink your tea. Don't count your tea bags before they are brewed, any given Saturday.

P.S. That football coach you worship could never beat THE GENERAL. I know it's useless but trying to educate you a little bit.
 
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davethevol said:
I don't see how signing autographs for $20,000 makes him a pro-athlete. The NCAA is stupid, and this is the kind of stuff that proves they need to go away.
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20k? That sounds a lot like a profession to me.
 
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GoVols15 said:
You sir are a smug and obnoxious sports fan that represents a school with a fairly long history of cheating. You must be the one with the bammer tattoo (see other thread). Please go away and drink your tea. Don't count your tea bags before they are brewed, any given Saturday.

P.S. That football coach you worship could never beat THE GENERAL. I know it's useless but trying to educate you a little bit.
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We own you. And we are abusive to our property.
 
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Then we will agree to disagree on our definition of "professional athlete." There are innumerable ways for athletes to benefit financially from "their athletic ability" without being overtly paid to play in their respective sports. Jim Thorpe was stripped of his Olympic medals for being paid a nominal sum of money to play in a semi-pro baseball league, a clear violation of amateurism although he had no conception of its ramifications at the time. When a certain Alabama tight end received $2,000 per season for his allotment of complimentary season tickets, he most definitely benefited financially from his athletic ability, but he did not, in my mind, violate the spirit of amateurism. On the other hand, he most definitely was guilty of being the recipient of improper benefits, although I do not know categorically whether they were defined as such at that time.
 
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bamawriter said:
If JFF is out, our only real competition is LSU, and they lost a ton this year. So Atlanta is guaranteed, and I like our chances against the little sister division.

So yeah. Threepeat confirmed.
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If he's out I agree.

Whats your opinion? Considering the state of Alabama's track record with $ and players it would be valuable at this point.
 
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bamawriter said:
It's all about documentation. No paperwork, no worries.
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I guess there are instances where documentation would not be a problem.

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BruinVol said:
I disagree. By definition a professional athlete is someone who earns money from their athletic ability. That is exactly what is happening here. Accepting money changes his amateurism status.
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I disagree. A professional athlete is someone that plays professional sports.
 
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GoVols15 said:
You sir are a smug and obnoxious sports fan that represents a school with a fairly long history of cheating. You must be the one with the bammer tattoo (see other thread). Please go away and drink your tea. Don't count your tea bags before they are brewed, any given Saturday.

P.S. That football coach you worship could never beat THE GENERAL. I know it's useless but trying to educate you a little bit.
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You are an embarrassment to the Tennessee fan base. Can you please stop living in the past?
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
I disagree. A professional athlete is someone that plays professional sports.
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Think About a golfer. He can play in professional tournaments but as soon as they accept money they lose their amateur status. Very similar thing here. College athletics sign every year a clearly defined statement against accepting money. The second they do so the are professionals.
 
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bamawriter said:
We own you. And we are abusive to our property.
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"Own" and "property,"you must be confused, this is not a "I married and abused my sister" episode of Jerry Springer. This is VOLNATION, home of the greatest fans in the world, greatest coach in history (THE GENERAL), and we are just a few short years from destroying the bammers just like we did a few years ago! RISE TO THE TOP'. WE'RE COMING!
::hi:
 
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volfanbill said:
You are an embarrassment to the Tennessee fan base. Can you please stop living in the past?
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What is your problem! This is the second time you have attacked me. You must be a troll. Maybe you got upset when I referenced Barack ... You are definitely a lib because you like to tell everyone else how to think! Excuse me, I will live anywhere I want and if you don't like then ...
 
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GoVols15 said:
"Own" and "property,"you must be confused, this is not a "I married and abused my sister" episode of Jerry Springer. This is VOLNATION, home of the greatest fans in the world, greatest coach in history (THE GENERAL), and we are just a few short years from destroying the bammers just like we did a few years ago! RISE TO THE TOP'. WE'RE COMING!
::hi:
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A few years? You do realize that your streak ended almost 12 years ago, right?
 
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mkil5 said:
Not true. This was the punishment for Julio Jones and Mark Ingram's boat ride.

AJ Green did however miss 4 games for selling a signed game worn jersey.
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Difference is 5 figures. Just stating what was said in the article about missing the season.
 
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GoVols15 said:
What is your problem! This is the second time you have attacked me. You must be a troll. Maybe you got upset when I referenced Barack ... You are definitely a lib because you like to tell everyone else how to think! Excuse me, I will live anywhere I want and if you don't like then ...
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No. You just can't bring anything to a forum other than what Tennessee did in the previous century like it is somehow relevant to a discussion in an around the NCAA thread.
 
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If the NCAA does have a case, the IRS will have one also --- dont mess with Obamas tax boys, the Dems need every cent they can spend.
 
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bamawriter said:
All kidding aside, there is no way Manziel misses a single second of the upcoming season.
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It will be interesting to watch how the NCAA handles such a high-profile player, especially if more evidence of rule-breaking surfaces.
 
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Ashevillevol said:
Whether it is him or someone else, at some point I think someone needs to challenge the authority of the AA to regulate these kids lives to the degree they do. These schools rake in millions if not billions of dollars on the backs of these kids that they work like government mules. They "allow" them to attend their schools for no tuition and proceed to tell them they cannot profit off of their own likeness or autographs when most of them can't even afford to go buy a pizza on Friday night. It is disgustingly hypocritical and borders on legalized indentured servitude.
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They gave him a 100K trophy! And all Heisman winners get seven-figures worth of endorsement deal's the day they walk out. Thats pretty good money for three years worth of sports management classes:thumbsup:
 
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While bamawriter is a cocky pain in the you-know-what and is pretty much trolling some of y'all for the lulz, Johnny Manziel's d-bag status and history cancels out both bamawriter and Bama hate on this issue.

Yes, he's fun to watch but so is Marshall. And the fact is he needs to be cut down to size and A&M appears powerless to do it despite his family claiming A&M does nothing to help and his entire family/entourage displaying extreme paranoia that A&M is out to get him (as is everyone else in this world according the Paul Manziel). Ideally, he'd have been disciplined long ago for his own dam good. Let Bama keep thinking they're unstoppable -- I guarantee you Saban's worst fear is his team thinking that.

If Manziel did what is alleged he deserves to be punished and punished severely for his actions. We're talking a huge amount and while this may be the only thing where witnesses will go to the press, his postseason/offseason doesn't indicate someone who has never taken benefits other players don't even get offered. If you disagree with the rules lobby for a change.

While A&M's PR machine is good, his father's comments say much as does the article in ESPN the Magazine which can be read online. Articles prior to stardom don't indicate a wealthy family at all or even a family that is above breaking the law to earn $$ despite an alleged 'oil wealth.' I believe it was Manziel's uncle who was caught selling drugs out of his nightclub recently (an oil heir would hardly need to do that). Something is rotten about the whole Manziel myth and it smells like it's rotten to the core.
 
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