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#127
#127
0nelilreb said:
I’m just speaking of what I know . Insurance will play a really big part on the business end but DOT isn’t going to allow us to smoke and drive . I’m all for it being legal for everyone , but if I’m honest I’m not really excited about a SWIFT driver hauling 60k pounds at 75 mph down the interstate high . That’s probably hypocritical of me somehow but I’m just being honest .
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I wouldn't worry.

Insurance already has code 10 ready for rating which is completely autonomous driving.

There are actually trucks on the road right now that are driverless with just the driver there for back up.

Eventually long haul is moving to self driving.

It will crash the economy though. But it's coming nevertheless.
 
#128
#128
Rickyvol77 said:
well i am sure there is probably a guy rotting away in federal prison for bootlegging too, but we are discussing the modern era.

AND NO ONE is arrested and put in prison JUST for simple possession of weed.
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What do you consider simple possession?
 
#130
#130
NEO said:
This is why I love volnation....

Take a simple weed debate and by page 2 its about not legally hiring smokers and by page 3 it's about TDOT and by page 4 we learn hog is the guy to go to if u need either into mexico or out of it.
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So how many joints did you smoke this morning b4 hog took you on a joy ride to Mexico?
 
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NEO said:
I wouldn't worry.

Insurance already has code 10 ready for rating which is completely autonomous driving.

There are actually trucks on the road right now that are driverless with just the driver there for back up.

Eventually long haul is moving to self driving.

It will crash the economy though. But it's coming nevertheless.
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I’m not worried I do heavy hauling . When the machines take over heavy hauling we should be more worried about sky net and what our imperial emperor Elon Musk wants us to do next . Lol
 
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InVOLuntary said:
You have to prove they're high hence the drug test. If they have a valid prescription the positive test is omitted due to HIPPA. I own my own company and called both a health care provider that performed the test and a lawyer. HIPPA prevents the employer from know what prescription drugs the employee is lawfully using. Check it out. I know what I'm talking about.
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HIPAA has nothing to do with that, most HRs have a requirement that if someone is using narcotics (even legal prescriptions) they have to declare them to their employer...and it does not exempt them from being under the influence while at work, which is both fireable and a crime
 
#134
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PEPPERJAX said:
@Rickyvol77 You were or are in law enforcement correct? If pot were decriminalized, would this decline commercial pot from crossing our borders illegally from Mexico?
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All it would do is make cartel weed cheaper in the short run, and still they would be selling it illegally.
The only people who would make money on it would be pharm and growers who would be granted licensing by politicians in exchange for tax money.
 
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#135
PEPPERJAX said:
In HS and college my buddies and I smoked weed A LOT while drinking beers or whiskey. Most potheads keep it green and only green for the most part. The doctors and medical professionals that throw patients opioids like candy are far more dangerous to society than bud smokers and the fourth meal they crave at 3am. The opioid epidemic in this country is a serious problem.
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#137
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Rickyvol77 said:
All it would do is make cartel weed cheaper in the short run, and still they would be selling it illegally.
The only people who would make money on it would be pharm and growers who would be granted licensing by politicians in exchange for tax money.
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If the various levels of government tax and fee it to death you are correct, if they don't then there is no way illegal weed will be cheaper. Hell untaxed whiskey isn't cheaper than what you buy at the liquor store unless it's crappy stuff.
 
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hog88 said:
Making producing your own illegal is plain stupidity. The only reason a legal product would be more expensive than a legal product is taxes and fees which again is pure stupidity.
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Almost all states that have legalized recreational weed allow something between 3 and 12 plants per household to be grown. As a part time resident of sunny SoCal, I can assure you that 3 plants will produce enough bud to keep almost any household in more than enough quality weed to nullify any need to buy weed, legally or not. And I am not talking about having some hi-tech grow room. No taxes involved.
 
#140
#140
NEO said:
If just 10 percent of people use weed and spend 100 per month this would generate 190 million in tax revenue per month. Not including a state tax on top of it.
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I'm less interested in the tax revenue it would generate and more interested in the massive budget reductions that would result in ending the war on drugs.
 
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NEO said:
I wouldn't worry.

Insurance already has code 10 ready for rating which is completely autonomous driving.

There are actually trucks on the road right now that are driverless with just the driver there for back up.

Eventually long haul is moving to self driving.

It will crash the economy though. But it's coming nevertheless.
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Why do you think this? OTR drivers are getting harder and harder to find. Autonomous driving will solve that problem.
 
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#143
Legalize it. Tax it. I've turned 180 in the past 10 years. It's not a "gateway drug", IMO.

If you know the right stretch of I-95 to look at, I'd guess there's a long line of it growing on the side of the road from all the weed I've let the holder throw out rather than cite therm for Misdemeanor Possession. FYI, I'm generally the same on open container. If I happen to trip over you with a "go-home beer", as long as all else is good I'll let you pour it out, and send you on your merry, sober way.

Somebody keep an eye on Ras. This post is liable to send him into a seizure...

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#144
DancingOutlaw said:
Why do you think this? OTR drivers are getting harder and harder to find. Autonomous driving will solve that problem.
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I for one can't wait for driver-less trucks. I'll never get to take advantage of them but still.
 
#145
#145
hog88 said:
This^^^!

Screw taxing legal drugs, the savings on the justice system and policing would increase cash flow.
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How was alcohol convictions treated after prohibition ended?

My understanding is that if you are convicted of a crime they dont just let you go if its later legalised. Maybe it's just a mass pardon, but I have never heard.

I would think at some point in the trial/sentencing you are guilty and get to suffer.

Sort of the opposite of doing something legal, then it's made illegal, they cant go backwards and charge you.
 
#146
#146
LouderVol said:
How was alcohol convictions treated after prohibition ended?

My understanding is that if you are convicted of a crime they dont just let you go if its later legalised. Maybe it's just a mass pardon, but I have never heard.

I would think at some point in the trial/sentencing you are guilty and get to suffer.

Sort of the opposite of doing something legal, then it's made illegal, they cant go backwards and charge you.
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You could pass companion legislation to invalidate and expunge those convictions. The government makes the laws, it can change them.
 
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#149
DancingOutlaw said:
You could pass companion legislation to invalidate and expunge those convictions. The government makes the laws, it can change them.
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If it's part of the law or a new one that makes sense. But I havent seen that aspect actually discussed.
 
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#150
LouderVol said:
How was alcohol convictions treated after prohibition ended?

My understanding is that if you are convicted of a crime they dont just let you go if its later legalised. Maybe it's just a mass pardon, but I have never heard.

I would think at some point in the trial/sentencing you are guilty and get to suffer.

Sort of the opposite of doing something legal, then it's made illegal, they cant go backwards and charge you.
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Good question, I don't know BUT even if they didn't let everyone out already convicted going forward it would be a huge savings.

Did a quick gaggle and found this interesting article.

Were Bootleggers Released When Prohibition Ended?
 
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