Mark Richt Fired

[UTwild82]

Between South Carolina, Miami, Virginia, Maryland, and Missouri I think Virginia would be the best fit. Missouri and South Carolina are second tier programs in the division. Miami would seem to be a culture nightmare. Maryland would be the Big 10 equivalent to Missouri, stuck playing Ohio state, Penn state, Michigan, and Michigan state every year.

Virginia has a much easier schedule, solid recruiting ground, and much less pressure.

 

[Sin City Vol]

I would like to see Richt go to Miami and take his staff with him. They recruit well and would hopefully take away a lot of recruits from Miami and FSU

 

[Backwards K]

Agree with pretty much all this. He wasn't implicated in anything at USC and the guy that was, was fired. I'm also of the belief that his transgressions at UT are greatly overblown. Giving some girls travel money to go cheer on Corey Miller and Brandon Willis is nothing in the grabs scheme of dirty college recruiting. We recruited well under him because we had a rockstar staff of recruiters. Orgeron, Lance Thompson, Frank Wilson and Kiffin are 4 of the best in the business regardless of where they've been.

Recruited well? The class that the Kiffin gang brought to the Hill turned out to be one of the worst recruiting classes in recent Tennessee history. That class is one of the reasons UT has been so bad for the last few years.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Recruited well? The class that the Kiffin gang brought to the Hill turned out to be one of the worst recruiting classes in recent Tennessee history. That class is one of the reasons UT has been so bad for the last few years.

It's bad cause kids left on their own or got in trouble and it wasn't a big class to begin with so the affect was bigger. It's not a bad class because they weren't great players. Had he stayed in 2010 we would've had a top 5 and very likely the number 1 class in the nation. He also took risks in 2009 to make noise and get our name out there. If you question that staffs ability to recruit I question your sanity. He signed top 5 classes to USC when kids knew they couldn't play in a bowl or be eligible to win the conference.

 

[volfanhill]

Raiders and USC are both known to be so problematic that it was as easy to assume there was something wrong with Al Davis and USC rather than Kiffin being the main problem which is probably the way Hamilton looked at it.
I also happen to think that if USC job did not come open and if they did not want Kiffin he would still be our HC right now (if he did not bend NCAA rules enough to get fired which was looking kind of likely to be honest). However I think USC was about the only college job he would have taken over UT which is not that surprising given it is home for him. I actually have more difficulty understanding Tee Martin not wanting to come home to UT and instead prefering USC.

His play calling at USC was terrible. I mean fire you on the team bus bad.

 

[Backwards K]

It's bad cause kids left on their own or got in trouble and it wasn't a big class to begin with so the affect was bigger. It's not a bad class because they weren't great players. Had he stayed in 2010 we would've had a top 5 and very likely the number 1 class in the nation. He also took risks in 2009 to make noise and get our name out there. If you question that staffs ability to recruit I question your sanity. He signed top 5 classes to USC when kids knew they couldn't play in a bowl or be eligible to win the conference.

Kiffin was a loser and the University of Tennessee was lucky that he only stayed one year. He has never won at any level in which he was the head coach. Just another one of Mike Hamilton's great contributions to the University.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Kiffin was a loser and the University of Tennessee was lucky that he only stayed one year. He has never won at any level in which he was the head coach. Just another one of Mike Hamilton's great contributions to the University.

Guess you just ignore, what many have called, the worst sanctions since SMU, that he had to deal with at USC?

Regardless, none of that diminishes his or his staff's ability to recruit.

 

[Backwards K]

Guess you just ignore, what many have called, the worst sanctions since SMU, that he had to deal with at USC?

Regardless, none of that diminishes his or his staff's ability to recruit.

What excuse do you have for him at Oakland? Saban has propped him up pretty good and made him look presentable but other than that Kiffin is one of the least respected head coaches in football history.

Glad that idiot is not representing the University of Tennessee.

 

[jakez4ut]

had kiffin stayed, we'd of been the team that took over the East the last 6 years. i have no doubt about that.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

What excuse do you have for him at Oakland? Saban has propped him up pretty good and made him look presentable but other than that Kiffin is one of the least respected head coaches in football history.

Glad that idiot is not representing the University of Tennessee.

The Raiders? Seriously that's your "proof"? They're on their 8th HC since 2002. No one has won there since Gruden.

 

[ajvol01]

It's bad cause kids left on their own or got in trouble and it wasn't a big class to begin with so the affect was bigger. It's not a bad class because they weren't great players. Had he stayed in 2010 we would've had a top 5 and very likely the number 1 class in the nation. He also took risks in 2009 to make noise and get our name out there. If you question that staffs ability to recruit I question your sanity. He signed top 5 classes to USC when kids knew they couldn't play in a bowl or be eligible to win the conference.

Rivals disagrees

https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1336343

 

[CountVolcula]

Richt will get snatched up right away

Just gonna leave this here

 

[ajvol01]

Just gonna leave this here

Don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Rivals disagrees

https://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1336343

That doesn't prove they weren't good athletes. Which is what you highlighted.

Brown - transferred
Oku - transferred
Williams - transferred
Revis - transferred
Nelson - transferred
Mitchell-Thornton - transferred
Nukeese - removed
Edwards - removed
Jackson - removed
Myles - removed

What in there says these were poor talents? If Kiffin stays, Oku stays, Brown stays, Teague stays on offense, Oliver doesn't flip-flop both sides of the ball, etc. I said exactly what Rivals says about why it was ultimately a poor class; none of it has to do with talent/skill.

 

[CountVolcula]

Don't pull a muscle patting yourself on the back.

Lol

 

[ajvol01]

That doesn't prove they weren't good athletes. Which is what you highlighted.

Brown - transferred
Oku - transferred
Williams - transferred
Revis - transferred
Nelson - transferred
Mitchell-Thornton - transferred
Nukeese - removed
Edwards - removed
Jackson - removed
Myles - removed

What in there says these were poor talents? If Kiffin stays, Oku stays, Brown stays, Teague stays on offense, Oliver doesn't flip-flop both sides of the ball, etc. I said exactly what Rivals says about why it was ultimately a poor class; none of it has to do with talent/skill.

Revis & Mitchell-Thornton were not SEC caliber.

Oku and Nu'keese were extremely overrated.

Other than Bryce Brown none of the guys that left ever did anything significant. If they were so talented why is that?

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

Revis & Mitchell-Thornton were not SEC caliber.

Oku and Nu'keese were extremely overrated.

Other than Bryce Brown none of the guys that left ever did anything significant. If they were so talented why is that?

Revis was a Fulmer commit. Nu'Keese played half a year of D-1 football not sure how a judgement can be made, but you will anyway. Oku had 1200+ yards of offense at Arkansas State his JR year under Malzahan. Janzen Jackson murdered a guy. Mike Edwards led the country in KO return yards and avg with 3 TD's on KO. Most were such trouble makers they blew 2nd chances. The class was not top 10 in the country without containing talent.

I grew up 25 miles from Nu'Keese and played Pahokee annually; his type story is a dime a dozen in our area. The best football players you'll find anywhere in the country and most wind up back home before their careers are over. You can take a player out of the Muck but you can't take the Muck out of the player.

 

[StoVol]

Revis & Mitchell-Thornton were not SEC caliber.

Oku and Nu'keese were extremely overrated.

Other than Bryce Brown none of the guys that left ever did anything significant. If they were so talented why is that?

exactly, recruiting is getting a great athlete and at least an adequate student who doesnt rob gas stations, they have to be on the field, what good is getting 6 five star recruits when 5 leave for one reason or another

 

[Backwards K]

At UT, Kiffin proved himself to be classless and of low character. I wonder about anyone who would try to support and/or defend the legacy he left in Knoxville.

 

[onevol74]

Guess you just ignore, what many have called, the worst sanctions since SMU, that he had to deal with at USC?

Regardless, none of that diminishes his or his staff's ability to recruit.

UT would have suffered the same consequences if he had stayed here. Probably worse. Everyone knows that Kiffin and Orgeron were cheating and it would just be a matter of time before making headline news.

Also, I can not stand the thought of him putting up USC material in our facilities. That was treason in the highest degree.

 

[NashVol11]

At UT, Kiffin proved himself to be classless and of low character. I wonder about anyone who would try to support and/or defend the legacy he left in Knoxville.

Hahaha. This guy's mad

 

[NashVol11]

UT would have suffered the same consequences if he had stayed here. Probably worse. Everyone knows that Kiffin and Orgeron were cheating and it would just be a matter of time before making headline news.

Also, I can not stand the thought of him putting up USC material in our facilities. That was treason in the highest degree.

Everyone? They're like Calipari: smart enough to bend the rules, but not dumb enough to get major violations for it.

The USC highlights were much ado about nothing, IMO. If Cutcliffe, in his first year at Duke, had Peyton Manning Tennessee highlights playing in the Duke facilities to show recruits what he helped build, would anyone here be mad?

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

UT would have suffered the same consequences if he had stayed here. Probably worse. Everyone knows that Kiffin and Orgeron were cheating and it would just be a matter of time before making headline news.

Also, I can not stand the thought of him putting up USC material in our facilities. That was treason in the highest degree.

Except the recruiting violations at USC were pinned to RB coach Todd McNair only. USC wouldn't have hired Kiffin, Orgeron and ultimately Sarkasian if they were involved. That would've been two middle fingers to the NCAA.

What concrete evidence is there that the staff was cheating here, outside of sending a couple hostesses to a HS game and paying for their travel and Willie Mack Garza paying Lyles for "recruiting info"? Did we even sign a kid out of TX? If everyone knows, surely there's legit information out there.

 

[NashVol11]

Except the recruiting violations at USC were pinned to RB coach Todd McNair only. USC wouldn't have hired Kiffin, Orgeron and ultimately Sarkasian if they were involved. That would've been two middle fingers to the NCAA.

What concrete evidence is there that the staff was cheating here, outside of sending a couple hostesses to a HS game and paying for their travel and Willie Mack Garza paying Lyles for "recruiting info"? Did we even sign a kid out of TX? If everyone knows, surely there's legit information out there.

"Everyone knows Kiffin paid refs and killed puppies. If you disagree, you have bad moral character." - Backwards K

 

[ajvol01]

Kiffin gets tons of credit for being a great recruiter, but not many talk about all the high profile guys he landed that were busts.

Markeith Ambles
Kyle Prater
Dillon Baxter

Three 5 stars of 2010 USC recruiting class.

All 3 of them left USC after doing nothing.

Just like Clubber Lang called Balboa in Rocky III - that is what I call being a "paper champion".