Mark Richt Fired

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Firing Mark Richt to hire Kirby Smart would be the absolute dumbest thing ever.

On second thought, go ahead Georgia, have at it!
 
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On one hand you want to feel bad for these coaches but they're also making millions per year to perform. I think UGA is silly to get rid of Richt unless they have something better lined up, but I don't feel sorry for someone who is now wealthy where there are millions struggling every day. With millions of dollars comes expectations.
 
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Zues1 said:
People keep talking about Richt to Miami because he played there. I just don't see Mark and his family fitting in that city at this point in his life.

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I agree. I don't think Maryland is either, coming from Athens. I do think that UVA would be a good fit in Charlottesville.
 
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jakez4ut said:
ok, then let's agree that it was a...bad...plan.
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It was not a bad plan when it was made. There are no guarantees in life so who could have predicted Kiffin would leave so soon? He seemed really all in at UT and pulling out all the stops to make the program relevant asap (and annoying the rest of the SEC while he was at it). Sometimes you do what's logical but things still don't work out which is what happened with Kiffin at UT.
 
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TGVol said:
It was not a bad plan when it was made. There are no guarantees in life so who could have predicted Kiffin would leave so soon? He seemed really all in at UT and pulling out all the stops to make the program relevant asap (and annoying the rest of the SEC while he was at it). Sometimes you do what's logical but things still don't work out which is what happened with Kiffin at UT.
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Of course having said all this does not mean I agreed with CPF being replaced at all - that should have never happened. But after that bad decision was made it was not wrong to try some young upcomer like Kiffin - especially since he already had NFL HC experience (even though it was with Raiders but still - you don't get those types of jobs unless you really know your X's and O's).
 
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Well this was certainly an interesting prediction for Richt's future:

https://www.dawgnation.com/football...joy-quiet-for-first-time-may-be-done-coaching

Just a guess: The bowl game will be the last time we’ll see Richt on any sideline, not just in Athens.

Richt said he misses coaching quarterbacks. He misses being hands-on with an offense. He misses calling plays. That’s only natural. CEOs of computer companies similarly hate board meetings and miss sitting in their garage, tinkering with gadgets. Coaches love to coach. They don’t love the administrative aspects of their job, or going on the burnt-brisket booster circuit, or getting 2 a.m. phone calls about a player in handcuffs.

Richt had planned for Monday to be the first of 14 straight days on the road recruiting. Instead, he’ll use the next two weeks to weigh outside coaching offers and an opportunity at Georgia to hang around, counsel young people and, basically, just be Mark Richt.

Then he’ll make a decision. Or he won’t.
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But he’s at peace. He loves living in Athens. For the first time in more than three decades, he will have free time to spend with his wife Katharyn. His ego also is not such that he feels the need to go elsewhere to prove the world wrong about something.

Just guessing, again: He’ll enjoy this down time, the relative absence of noise in his head. He can get the coaching out of his system by holding quarterback camps or making himself available as a consultant. But this is foreign territory, so even he doesn’t know what to expect.
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TGVol said:
Of course having said all this does not mean I agreed with CPF being replaced at all - that should have never happened. But after that bad decision was made it was not wrong to try some young upcomer like Kiffin - especially since he already had NFL HC experience (even though it was with Raiders but still - you don't get those types of jobs unless you really know your X's and O's).
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It wasn't wrong by any means to try a young up-and-comer.


What was probably wrong was trying someone who pretty much had that kind of laundry list of complaints/issues (or at least, that fairly verbal/public of one) following his time (/ his departures) from his previous places of employment.
 
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TGVol said:
It was not a bad plan when it was made. There are no guarantees in life so who could have predicted Kiffin would leave so soon? He seemed really all in at UT and pulling out all the stops to make the program relevant asap (and annoying the rest of the SEC while he was at it). Sometimes you do what's logical but things still don't work out which is what happened with Kiffin at UT.
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TGVol said:
Of course having said all this does not mean I agreed with CPF being replaced at all - that should have never happened. But after that bad decision was made it was not wrong to try some young upcomer like Kiffin - especially since he already had NFL HC experience (even though it was with Raiders but still - you don't get those types of jobs unless you really know your X's and O's).
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x's and o's weren't the issue with Kiffin (I liked the hire btw).

but like i said earlier, hiring Kiffin to begin with was a gamble, no way around it. he had baggage from Oakland and USC, and wasn't proven at anything but being a good OC and recruiter.

further, given the gamble that it was, there was only two ways this would work....complete success or an epic failure.

now, how it became a failure wasn't because of the on field product or trajectory, the failure was the structure of his contract, and not vetting him well enough to know that TN was not a destination for him.

that was a huge failure.
 
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SamRebel35 said:
Just Watching his press conference, he looked like a new man. I haven't seen him look happy or relaxed in years. He genuinely looked glad not to be the head coach for UGA. I doubt he takes another head coaching gig.
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He has already stated he will and wants to continue coaching. I think part of him is relived of the stress of coaching in the SEC and at Georgia. If he take a job at Virginia, Maryland or somewhere like that there will be a new excitement and expectations but not like in the SEC
 
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jakez4ut said:
he had baggage from Oakland and USC

not vetting him well enough to know that TN was not a destination for him.
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Raiders and USC are both known to be so problematic that it was as easy to assume there was something wrong with Al Davis and USC rather than Kiffin being the main problem which is probably the way Hamilton looked at it.
I also happen to think that if USC job did not come open and if they did not want Kiffin he would still be our HC right now (if he did not bend NCAA rules enough to get fired which was looking kind of likely to be honest). However I think USC was about the only college job he would have taken over UT which is not that surprising given it is home for him. I actually have more difficulty understanding Tee Martin not wanting to come home to UT and instead prefering USC.
 
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TGVol said:
Raiders and USC are both known to be so problematic that it was as easy to assume there was something wrong with Al Davis and USC rather than Kiffin being the main problem which is probably the way Hamilton looked at it.
I also happen to think that if USC job did not come open and if they did not want Kiffin he would still be our HC right now (if he did not bend NCAA rules enough to get fired which was looking kind of likely to be honest). However I think USC was about the only college job he would have taken over UT which is not that surprising given it is home for him. I actually have more difficulty understanding Tee Martin not wanting to come home to UT and instead prefering USC.
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Agree with pretty much all this. He wasn't implicated in anything at USC and the guy that was, was fired. I'm also of the belief that his transgressions at UT are greatly overblown. Giving some girls travel money to go cheer on Corey Miller and Brandon Willis is nothing in the grand scheme of dirty college recruiting. We recruited well under him because we had a rockstar staff of recruiters. Orgeron, Lance Thompson, Frank Wilson and Kiffin are 4 of the best in the business regardless of where they've been.
 
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jakez4ut said:
either way, the public backlash was TERRIBLE for LSU. then they beat aTm, he's carried off the field.....

there was NO WAY they could fire him then, and if they did, do you want to be the guy that comes in and has to clean up the mess the administrators and boosters made?

uh, no, especially if/since Jimbo was the plan. as much as he may want to leave FSU, the way they handled all of that at LSU made it as unattractive of a job as it could possibly be.

Frankly, i wouldn't have been surprised if Miles had quit, Quanzo style.......
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Jimbo won't leave FSU for UGA or anywhere else in the nation at this time.

He's going through a rather tense divorce proceedings. While most would think that would make a perfect opportunity to get out of town, it's not the case here. Jimbo has a child with special needs whom he is very dedicated to and his wife will not relocate as she is comfortable with the care provided in Tallahassee.
 
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Interviewing at Miami according to josh ward. Not sure if this has been posted.
 
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TGVol said:
Raiders and USC are both known to be so problematic that it was as easy to assume there was something wrong with Al Davis and USC rather than Kiffin being the main problem which is probably the way Hamilton looked at it.
I also happen to think that if USC job did not come open and if they did not want Kiffin he would still be our HC right now (if he did not bend NCAA rules enough to get fired which was looking kind of likely to be honest). However I think USC was about the only college job he would have taken over UT which is not that surprising given it is home for him. I actually have more difficulty understanding Tee Martin not wanting to come home to UT and instead prefering USC.
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i don't care where the baggage came from, just that he did have it, that's all.

i agree, had the USC job not come open, he would have not had much reason to leave. though i don't know that he could have resisted the West Coast had say some other Pac 12 schools comed calling, but we'll never know. we do know that he did leave.
bowlinggreenvol said:
Agree with pretty much all this. He wasn't implicated in anything at USC and the guy that was, was fired. I'm also of the belief that his transgressions at UT are greatly overblown. Giving some girls travel money to go cheer on Corey Miller and Brandon Willis is nothing in the grabs scheme of dirty college recruiting. We recruited well under him because we had a rockstar staff of recruiters. Orgeron, Lance Thompson, Frank Wilson and Kiffin are 4 of the best in the business regardless of where they've been.
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agreed.

and i loved the aggressive nature of how they coached.
 
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