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goldenvol said:
I'm going dumb down what you said so I'm taking some liberties with your statement.

Religious thinking people can't believe in man made climate change due to lacking the ability for rational thought.

Is that close to your line of thinking ?
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More like, most science denial in the United States can be traced to religious origin, namely Christianity.
 
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OHvol40 said:
More like, most science denial in the United States can be traced to religious origin, namely Christianity.
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There was definitely a faction of fundamentalism that had a broad reaching affect on the US church. This was fall out from the Puritanical pilgrims who were instrumental in colonizing America. It spawned anti-intellectualism. Sad because the church has a rich history of leading education and medicine. Keep in mind that our greatest universities were all founded by Christian groups and the church.

Consequently, we see scientism and naturalism replacing true, objective scientific process. Science is NEVER opinion polls, nor is in an entity or being.
 
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jp1 said:
Let's cut to the chase....put it out there what specifically you are trying to say.
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I could be wrong, but I get the impression that he/she is saying that the poor un-educated sheep that is the most of us would have full clarity if we came into the light.

I could be off, but that's the feeling I get.
 
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OHvol40 said:
I don’t understand how I’m not being comprehended here. I’m NOT equating intellect to utility. I’m not talking about contemplation or anything close to that.

I understand what you’re saying. I’m saying that intellectualism, or, rationalism if you prefer (not intellect or education) is under attack in our society. The pragmatic, fact-driven people in the sciences including engineering, biology, medicine, climatology, etc are being discounted in our society. A theory is that it’s rooted to religious fundamentalism.
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Overall I tend to disagree with the bolded sentence. In some ways I think much of our society is actually seduced by technology and the thought that it improves a person's life - the consumption aspect. The thought of a new device whether it be a new phone or related tech doesn't seem to turn people against tech at all.

Medicine gets iffy - particularly attitudes like anti vaxxers; some of that is driven by religious beliefs, but I don't think it extends to the majority. It's much more likely to be the endless studies that say eggs, for example, are bad for you one week and the next week you have to have eggs in your diet - probably highly linked to higher education and the proliferation of poorly researched articles spawned by the "publish or perish" mindset in academia and non-engineering science. There are very different mechanisms driving jobs in engineering vs those in the "pure" sciences.

I have seen very very little connection between discounting climatological predictions and religion; it's much more fueled by people who simply remain unconvinced by the argument. I'd say, in fact, climate change is more a religion than religion itself. As an engineer familiar with data and interpretation, I'm certainly unconvinced by the arguments that proponents of man made climate change make. If you believe in their analyses, then you would also have to believe that we have to dramatically depopulate the world; and nobody is going to go there - that one issue, in fact, could be linked to religion.
 
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AM64 said:
Overall I tend to disagree with the bolded sentence. In some ways I think much of our society is actually seduced by technology and the thought that it improves a person's life - the consumption aspect. The thought of a new device whether it be a new phone or related tech doesn't seem to turn people against tech at all.

Medicine gets iffy - particularly attitudes like anti vaxxers; some of that is driven by religious beliefs, but I don't think it extends to the majority. It's much more likely to be the endless studies that say eggs, for example, are bad for you one week and the next week you have to have eggs in your diet - probably highly linked to higher education and the proliferation of poorly researched articles spawned by the "publish or perish" mindset in academia and non-engineering science. There are very different mechanisms driving jobs in engineering vs those in the "pure" sciences.

I have seen very very little connection between discounting climatological predictions and religion; it's much more fueled by people who simply remain unconvinced by the argument. I'd say, in fact, climate change is more a religion than religion itself. As an engineer familiar with data and interpretation, I'm certainly unconvinced by the arguments that proponents of man made climate change make. If you believe in their analyses, then you would also have to believe that we have to dramatically depopulate the world; and nobody is going to go there - that one issue, in fact, could be linked to religion.
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Check out the multi-departmental, interdisciplinary report I posted and refute the information if you wish on climate change.
Climate Science Special Report: Executive Summary
 
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OHvol40 said:
More like, most science denial in the United States can be traced to religious origin, namely Christianity.
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Do you have also have an issue with the “intellectual” science believing left telling us men need tampons and have periods too? That gender doesn’t exist, or little Timmy with a penis and some nuts is actually a girl if he chooses to be? The left likes to pick and choose on science.
 
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615vols said:
Do you have also have an issue with the “intellectual” science believing left telling us men need tampons and have periods too? That gender doesn’t exist, or little Timmy with a penis and some nuts is actually a girl if he chooses to be? The left likes to pick and choose on science.
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That’s a social science issue, not a physical science issue.
 
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AM64 said:
You are associated with the party of the indoctrinated. A degree that allows one to carry on stimulating intellectual discussions with fellow sales clerks and burger flippers doesn't really mean much in the world. There could be a better than even mix of the liberal type in research - often funded primarily by grants and government infusion of funds. I don't think you'll find the same mix at all in sciences like engineering.
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Do you think that is all a degree is good for? It just feels like you’re making an excuse for supporting the lower IQ party. Would you vote Democrat if the shoe was on the other foot 🤷‍♂️
 
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AM64 said:
Obviously the uneducated, minority, Republican rabble has managed to somehow overachieve and systemically enslave the more educated majority party. Boggles the mind, but there it is.
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Agree!!! Let’s do away with the electoral college.
 
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