Marxist Black Lives Matter

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utvolpj said:
Officer of the peace? By blocking roads and pointing guns at cars? If someone blocks my path and points a gun at my vehicle then I have no right to self defense? There's no way I can view that as a threat to my safety?
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You can't shoot Foster because you think other people slapping your car is a threat to your safety. Especially if he's telling you to move along and taking other actions (as multiple witnesses stated) to maintain the peace. JC, WTF
 
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n_huffhines said:
You can't shoot Foster because you think other people slapping your car is a threat to your safety. Especially if he's telling you to move along and taking other actions (as multiple witnesses stated) to maintain the peace. JC, WTF
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Guy with a gun pointed at the car with multiple people hitting and kicking it. Yes I absolutely can see that as a threat. Hard to just move along as the "officer of the peace" told me when I'm surrounded.
 
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utvolpj said:
that's a threat. Especially given the atmosphere around many of those protests
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This is a fine position to take if Perry were just minding his own business, but he threatened the protesters first. You are ignoring that. We've had cars drive into protesters and kill them in this climate.

Based on the evidence we have, Foster behaved exactly like an officer of the peace should. Perry ****ed up twice. Foster did not **** up.
 
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Just curious, a question for @utvolpj or anybody who thinks Foster isn't a victim here...if you are a 2A guy trying to keep the peace and a car drives threateningly into a group of protesters, and then the protesters surround the car, and a confrontation arises, what do you do?

Seems like not pointing the gun at anybody, telling the guy to stay in his car and move along is a pretty reasonable way to handle it.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is a fine position to take if Perry were just minding his own business, but he threatened the protesters first. You are ignoring that. We've had cars drive into protesters and kill them in this climate.

Based on the evidence we have, Foster behaved exactly like an officer of the peace should. Perry ****ed up twice. Foster did not **** up.
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You're buying they felt threatened but he can't feel threatened? We've also had people pulled out of vehicles by mobs and beaten or killed. Those protesters were also a huge contributor to the climate
 
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utvolpj said:
You're buying they felt threatened but he can't feel threatened? We've also had people pulled out of vehicles by mobs and beaten or killed. Those protesters were also a huge contributor to the climate
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So don't drive your car into protesters. These protesters did nothing to him. He threatened them first.

I have never said he didn't feel threatened. I'm saying he created the problem, and he doesn't get to kill an innocent because he was scared about the problem he created.
 
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n_huffhines said:
This is a fine position to take if Perry were just minding his own business, but he threatened the protesters first. You are ignoring that. We've had cars drive into protesters and kill them in this climate.

Based on the evidence we have, Foster behaved exactly like an officer of the peace should. Perry ****ed up twice. Foster did not **** up.
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Interesting. So you see driving on a public road to be the initial threat rather than blocking the road?

If armed protesters block a road, are they not initiating the first threat?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Quick, pivot to everyone is lying.
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Their cause and the reason they were even there was a lie. I just look at who had the most to gain by acting like the biggest victim. Probably the professional victims who made a lifestyle out of it
 
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utvolpj said:
Their cause and the reason they were even there was a lie. I just look at who had the most to gain by acting like the biggest victim. Probably the professional victims who made a lifestyle out of it
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Perry CLEARLY has the most to gain by lying, which is why his story changed. You think witnesses had more to gain by lying than him? WTF
 
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n_huffhines said:
Just curious, a question for @utvolpj or anybody who thinks Foster isn't a victim here...if you are a 2A guy trying to keep the peace and a car drives threateningly into a group of protesters, and then the protesters surround the car, and a confrontation arises, what do you do?

Seems like not pointing the gun at anybody, telling the guy to stay in his car and move along is a pretty reasonable way to handle it.
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Mind my own business.

Actually I wouldn't be there in the first place unless it was by accident.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Oh, at the vehicle? I guess you got a whole lot of nothing there.
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There was a person in the vehicle and he waspoining the gun at him thru the window, that's a threat. Not to mention the surrounding people banging on his car...oh. And let's no forget there were **** fired and a bullet hole in his vehicle...

This is another Rittenhouse BS claim..
 
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n_huffhines said:
He never pointed the gun at him. Nobody said otherwise until the murderer changed his story later.

As far as we know with this incident, the deceased was behaving like a completely responsible officer of the peace, and the other guy was the one being dangerous, which is why Foster stopped him. If you care at all about responsible gun ownership and the benefit it brings to society, you need to be on the side of the deceased.
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Wow, the gun was clearly pointed at the driver in the still frame yet you claim otherwise.

Besides the above illustrating ignorance of the situation everything else you've started is a colossal stretch. Nothing the decedant did that night with his weapon was responsible or reasonable unless he counted on the person he's pointing a weapon at is either unarmed or unwilling to use it if also armed.

Remember he had been warned already by others to stop pointing his weapon at people. He advanced at an armed individual with his weapon at the ready and pointed at him. That is a threat, and by Texas law he's afforded the right to stand his ground.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Bump.
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Are we to believe the people who rushed his car menacing him after the fact?

Imagine this scenario:

You pull around s corner to find a mob and see armed individuals milling about in protest. You want to get out of there. I also read that protestors said they would have let him by........ But they didn't...... Think about it. Why would they need to let him by? Because they were blocking the street in protest. You remember the news? Seeing protestors beat on cars and in some cases pull people out and beat them? It's not unreasonable to believe he was under threat.

Yet we are to believe the mob...... We didn't do nothin, we were minding our business protesting in the road when a car came toward us!


Keep protests off the roads, if on roads protest in areas baracaded for protest by police and authorities. Quit threatening and or menacing people who may or may not agree with you. Respect people and expect the be respected. Menace people and you create or at the very least invite the atmosphere that breeds violence like this.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
There was a person in the vehicle and he waspoining the gun at him thru the window, that's a threat. Not to mention the surrounding people banging on his car...oh. And let's no forget there were **** fired and a bullet hole in his vehicle...

This is another Rittenhouse BS claim..
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There is no evidence of this whatsoever. If that's why Perry shot him, why didn't he initially say that instead of saying Foster wasn't pointing at him?
 
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n_huffhines said:
I read the article and didn't find it convincing in the least bit. Did you read it? The guy could be right, but this is not exonerating evidence.
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I watched he trial and saw him testify....perry was rail roaded...even the police...only saying otherwise are fencing sitting libs and Dems..this is Rittenhouse 2.0....hope he is pardoned
 
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KB5252 said:
Wow, the gun was clearly pointed at the driver in the still frame yet you claim otherwise.

Besides the above illustrating ignorance of the situation everything else you've started is a colossal stretch. Nothing the decedant did that night with his weapon was responsible or reasonable unless he counted on the person he's pointing a weapon at is either unarmed or unwilling to use it if also armed.

Remember he had been warned already by others to stop pointing his weapon at people. He advanced at an armed individual with his weapon at the ready and pointed at him. That is a threat, and by Texas law he's afforded the right to stand his ground.
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Spot on; however, remember Marxism is based on lies and deception. When someone says something to the sort of "how dare you suggest the protesters were lying", don't allow yourself to waste the mental energy in argument. This comes down to the fact that Marxist cannot accomplish their goals if citizens are allowed to protect themselves. This is why you see the Marxist DA Bragg in Manhattan try to press charges against the bodega owner who defended himself (along with the other BS coming from his office). This is why there is such a push to ban guns instead of addressing the true underlying societal issue of mental health. Marxist must neuter the populace in order to force a communist form of government on us. Anyone that espouses Marxist tactics and beliefs should be summarily dismissed as an individual capable of reasonable discourse.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I watched he trial and saw him testify....perry was rail roaded...even the police...only saying otherwise are fencing sitting libs and Dems..this is Rittenhouse 2.0....hope he is pardoned
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Cool. Since your link isn't convincing and you can't produce evidence he was pointing his weapon at anyone, I'll have to take your word on your perception of how the entire trial went.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Cool. Since your link isn't convincing, I'll have to take your word on your perception of how the entire trial went.
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Nothing I can post or say is going to convince you....you literally saw a photo of Foster with with AK at his shoulder in ready fire position pointed at Perry in the car...and you refused to say he was ..there is nothing anyone could do to convince you....you still think Rittenhouse wasn't self defense to don't you?
 
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n_huffhines said:
Just curious, a question for @utvolpj or anybody who thinks Foster isn't a victim here...if you are a 2A guy trying to keep the peace and a car drives threateningly into a group of protesters, and then the protesters surround the car, and a confrontation arises, what do you do?

Seems like not pointing the gun at anybody, telling the guy to stay in his car and move along is a pretty reasonable way to handle it.
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You mean the confrontation he was participating in?

Your attempt to paint him as a peace officer in this situation is mind numbingly awkward.
 
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