Mass Shooting in Rock Hill, SC

[LouderVol]

There is no possible way to know that. The guy also suffered ankle injuries so it is very possible his drug abuse started with pain killers prescribed for that.

I started with the hypothetical that it was the CTE that lead to drugs.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

There is no possible way to know that. The guy also suffered ankle injuries so it is very possible his drug abuse started with pain killers prescribed for that.

I don’t think we know enough yet. I also don’t care what the cause was, he murdered 5 people. It takes a soulless individual to shoot children.

 

[n_huffhines]

I work with TBI patients..... we hear the same kind of things about people that commit very similar acts daily that do not have CTE..... I don’t think players know how to adjust to life outside of football which leads to depression in some of these athletes.... The facts still remain that people outside of football are as prone to these kind of acts as football players that have experienced multiple concussions.

It's an interesting question. Football players have way more testosterone than the average person but they may also have a better support system

 

[hog88]

I don’t think we know enough yet. I also don’t care what the cause was, he murdered 5 people. It takes a soulless individual to shoot children.

Agreed we don't know. I just think it's inexcusable for people to paint him as a sympathetic figure or a victim because he might have CTE.

 

[volbeast33]

I don’t think we know enough yet. I also don’t care what the cause was, he murdered 5 people. It takes a soulless individual to shoot children.

My son plays travel ball in a team in the city that the two workers were from.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Nothing on violence/mood swings/depression/confusion?

Considering this is arguably the first time CTE is being linked to murdering children I dont think that qualifies as "prone".

Why is it being linked at all?

 

[Y9 Vol]

We have plenty of history linking CTE to violence, so you cannot rule it out. There is no reason to. The absence of proof that it caused a murder is not proof that it can't be the cause.

On a side note, where can I find the documented history of "the" causes of murders? I don't think this is a thing. In every case, it's a matter of opinion, so any CTE linked to murder would count as a documented case for those that buy that opinion.

Opinion is not a cause nor should it be “documented” as shat.

 

[AM64]

CTE can't be "the cause". At most it could be a down the line contributing factor.

You can almost hear the wheels spinning up over undiagnosed CTE and gun control ... we can't trust anybody - you just never know ... They may be trying to exhume John Wilkes Booth as we speak.

 

[Y9 Vol]

CTE can't be "the cause". At most it could be a down the line contributing factor.

If you are of that “opinion”.

 

[KB5252]

My wife raced 4 wheelers on the national level for many years. She has had multiple concussions, two of them requiring hospital stays.

She has random debilitating migraine headaches and during these she cannot string words together in ways that make sense to anyone but my daughter and I. I can actually see her eyes flicker and twitch when this happens.

The brain is a very funny thing. She remembers every damn thing I ever did wrong but forgets every time she's agreed to buy me a heavy duty 4 wheel drive truck.

 

[hog88]

My wife raced 4 wheelers on the national level for many years. She has had multiple concussions, two of them requiring hospital stays.

She has random debilitating migraine headaches and during these she cannot string words together in ways that make sense to anyone but my daughter and I. I can actually see her eyes flicker and twitch when this happens.

The brain is a very funny thing. She remembers every damn thing I ever did wrong but forgets every time she's agreed to buy my a heavy duty 4 wheel drive truck.

I hate to tell you this but that's normal.

 

[volinsd]

All I know is....if it were a white NFL player killing 5 of a family of black people..........it would most CERTAINLY be called a hate crime. THIS IS A COMPLETE FACT.

Its stupid, but it is still a fact.

 

[KB5252]

All I know is....if it were a white NFL player killing 5 of a family of black people..........it would most CERTAINLY be called a hate crime. THIS IS A COMPLETE FACT.

Its stupid, but it is still a fact.

That works be the knee jerk from media etc but let's wait and see what the facts play out in this instance. Have to be better.

 

[allvol123]

All I know is....if it were a white NFL player killing 5 of a family of black people..........it would most CERTAINLY be called a hate crime. THIS IS A COMPLETE FACT.

Its stupid, but it is still a fact.

It would have carried the weekend news cycle..

 

[AM64]

I wish I knew what study it was that I read but they study the data for all football players and compared it with the rest of society.... There was very little difference in football players and everyone else when it came to violent outbursts, suicide or anything of that nature. Differences were shown in an increase in memory loss, early onset dementia, and Alzheimer’s..... I think CTE is becoming an excuse when things like this happens.

It's probably a liberal thing that people can't just go off the rails for no reason at all. For liberals there has to be a reason - then they have something else to "fix". That fix is always going to involve victims (not including the real victims), rights for "victims" of whatever malady, taxes, and a loss of freedoms for everyone else ... maybe even a new diversity or two to be celebrated.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

It's probably a liberal thing that people can't just go off the rails for no reason at all. For liberals there has to be a reason - then they have something else to "fix". That fix is always going to involve victims (not including the real victims), rights for "victims" of whatever malady, taxes, and a loss of freedoms for everyone else ... maybe even a new diversity or two to be celebrated.

There are people that aren’t fixable.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

My wife raced 4 wheelers on the national level for many years. She has had multiple concussions, two of them requiring hospital stays.

She has random debilitating migraine headaches and during these she cannot string words together in ways that make sense to anyone but my daughter and I. I can actually see her eyes flicker and twitch when this happens.

The brain is a very funny thing. She remembers every damn thing I ever did wrong but forgets every time she's agreed to buy me a heavy duty 4 wheel drive truck.

The last paragraph is normal. I still have trouble at times linking words. Made going through nursing school interesting.

 

[LouderVol]

Agreed we don't know. I just think it's inexcusable for people to paint him as a sympathetic figure or a victim because he might have CTE.

no one here is saying that.

people were asking why. Instead of the same tired "racism" argument CTE got brought up.

its not an excuse, doesn't make him a victim here, but it could be part of the story. maybe its just his dad being a parent but CTE got brought up outside this board. if you don't like it fine, but when there are as many questions as we have you can't shut down a line of conversation just because you don't like it.

 

[Blake25p]

Interesting this one is being labeled a mental health issue and not a gun issue...

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It takes a soulless individual to shoot children.

Chris Kyle and a bunch of Marines might disagree with that.

Of course it also depends on how one defines 'children'. Personally I don't consider the killers of Mr Mohammed in DC to be 'children'.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Chris Kyle and a bunch of Marines might disagree with that.

Of course it also depends on how one defines 'children'. Personally I don't consider the killers of Mr Mohammed in DC to be 'children'.

I think 5 and 8 qualify. Don’t think these kids were militarized.

 

[Septic]

He killed 5 innocent people. He knew what he was doing. He knew right from wrong. There is no excuse. If this had been a white person there wouldn’t even be the slightest suggestion that he suffered from any illness/injury. Let someone say that maybe Dylan Roof might have suffered from CTE.

Was Dylan Roof a NFL defensive back with a history of head injury?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Was Dylan Roof a NFL defensive back with a history of head injury?

Have you seen that boys picture? The lights aren’t even on.

 

[VolFaninFla]

Make it six murdered. Initial survivor has died.
Sole survivor of South Carolina shooting by Phillip Adams dies

 

[Septic]

Is there any evidence he killed them because they were white? Or is this conjecture?