Maymon Should be 100 percent by July

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“You’ve got to be patient,” he said. “Sometimes I’m at home and I’m upset and angry. I can’t just go out there and play in an open gym anytime and do things I used to do. And when I am able to play I still think I can do certain things without having my strength, but I can’t.

So don't expect anything mind blowing people.
 
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Dougie_D said:
“You’ve got to be patient,” he said. “Sometimes I’m at home and I’m upset and angry. I can’t just go out there and play in an open gym anytime and do things I used to do. And when I am able to play I still think I can do certain things without having my strength, but I can’t.

So don't expect anything mind blowing people.
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He's clearly saying at this point he's not physically 100%, but that he's working back towards that. It's not his knee, it's strength and conditioning now at this point is what it sounds like.

What're you trying to say, that he's done?
 
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Dougie_D said:
Meaning that Maymon is giving excuses for himself or even coach CCM if he doesn't perform on a a level of what is expected from him.

What would happen if he said his leg was 100% but only averaged 4 pts, 3 rebounds a game? We'd be like WTF?

If he never said anything about his leg and he produces the same result, we would all say "Hmm...maybe his leg is still bothering him."
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Wth?
 
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These forums are truly amazing. Either there are people in this world who spin negative thoughts for every single thing or there are people who use these forums to get a rise out of others. Not sure which, but the same **** gets old, old, old.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
He's clearly saying at this point he's not physically 100%, but that he's working back towards that. It's not his knee, it's strength and conditioning now at this point is what it sounds like.

What're you trying to say, that he's done?
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No... I just took it as if Maymon is saying that he may not succeed the expectations of his return.

I have no clue if he will or not but from his statement it seems like he's giving us a hint that, we as fans, shouldn't expect a huge impact immediately.
 
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Dougie_D said:
No... I just took it as if Maymon is saying that he may not succeed the expectations of his return.

I have no clue if he will or not but from his statement it seems like he's giving us a hint that, we as fans, shouldn't expect a huge impact immediately.
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Reading way too much into it IMO.
 
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Dougie_D said:
“You’ve got to be patient,” he said. “Sometimes I’m at home and I’m upset and angry. I can’t just go out there and play in an open gym anytime and do things I used to do. And when I am able to play I still think I can do certain things without having my strength, but I can’t.

So don't expect anything mind blowing people.
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Pssst...[whispers] the season is about 5 months away.
 
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Dougie_D said:
I'm not giving Maymon an excuse! He is! I'm just stating the facts. Why bother even saying he's not going to be 100 percent soon. Even if he's only 80% he should be on the floor.
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I'd be surprised if he's playing more than 20 minutes by mid season.
Those expecting him to take up where he left off with over a year out of the game, live in a dream world.
100% of what?
 
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I think there is red flags all over this. I'm not expecting the Maymon we saw 2 years ago. Hope I'm wrong, but it just seems the injury / infection was much worse than we will probably ever know. Could have been other complications that we will never know. Info doesn't seem to flow very easy from the CCM lock down on info. As far as any info from players saying how well he looks and can take over games...remember we heard from multiple players last year that McBee was the "Best" shooting guard in the country and that he never misses a 3 in practice. I bought the orange cool aid on that one. Regardless of Maymon's condition, a 50% Maymon will be better than 2012/2013 without Maymon.
 
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If Maymon isn't 100% I do think we'll see quite a bit of 4 guard lineup. As long as he can give us a good 20 minutes that will be important IMO. Could see:

Barton 30/Thompson 10
McRae 30/ Hubbs 10
Richardson 20/ Hubbs 20
Maymon 10/ Moore 20/ Richardson 10
Stokes 30/ Maymon 10


And you still have AJ Davis if you want to go a little bigger in place of Moore depending on the matchups.
 
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johnnybravo said:
...remember we heard from multiple players last year that McBee was the "Best" shooting guard in the country and that he never misses a 3 in practice. I bought the orange cool aid on that one.
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Appears you don't remember the reports of McBee's shoulder injury at the start of the season which affected his shot. There's no reason to believe that McBee wasn't performing pre-injury as reported by his teammates.
 
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johnnybravo said:
I think there is red flags all over this. I'm not expecting the Maymon we saw 2 years ago. Hope I'm wrong, but it just seems the injury / infection was much worse than we will probably ever know. Could have been other complications that we will never know. Info doesn't seem to flow very easy from the CCM lock down on info. As far as any info from players saying how well he looks and can take over games...remember we heard from multiple players last year that McBee was the "Best" shooting guard in the country and that he never misses a 3 in practice. I bought the orange cool aid on that one. Regardless of Maymon's condition, a 50% Maymon will be better than 2012/2013 without Maymon.
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Obviously, you just dismiss any comment about McBee being the "best" shooting guard, but I have no doubt that he shot well in practice. Since sports began, there have been players who play well in practice and can't always shine during the games. I had a discussion a couple of weeks back about playing pickup against a couple of the bench players when I was in school, and it is amazing how much better they are compared to "good pickup players." When you play in D1 games, everyone is good. I have no doubt that McBee could light up a practice, and then he is defended well in games.

As far as the Maymon injury, I have no problem with info that we don't know about. It's a HIPAA thing, not always a CCM thing. If Maymon doesn't want his injury disclosed, then he has that right.
 
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walkenvol said:
Appears you don't remember the reports of McBee's shoulder injury at the start of the season which affected his shot. There's no reason to believe that McBee wasn't performing pre-injury as reported by his teammates.
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Best shooting guard in the country? Really? I guess I should have just went by his 34.6% 3 pnt average then.

All I know is I will be way less frustrated this coming year not having to endour watching Skylar wearing orange.
 
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VolGee4 said:
Obviously, you just dismiss any comment about McBee being the "best" shooting guard, but I have no doubt that he shot well in practice. Since sports began, there have been players who play well in practice and can't always shine during the games. I had a discussion a couple of weeks back about playing pickup against a couple of the bench players when I was in school, and it is amazing how much better they are compared to "good pickup players." When you play in D1 games, everyone is good. I have no doubt that McBee could light up a practice, and then he is defended well in games.

As far as the Maymon injury, I have no problem with info that we don't know about. It's a HIPAA thing, not always a CCM thing. If Maymon doesn't want his injury disclosed, then he has that right.
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His team mates said he was the "best" shooting guard in the country.

HIPAA doesn't protect info on why Hall was suspended last year, or Yemi situation in Feb, Golden "repeated" cheating. Any info is always in "lockdown" mode with CCM's crew.
 
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johnnybravo said:
His team mates said he was the "best" shooting guard in the country.

HIPAA doesn't protect info on why Hall was suspended last year, or Yemi situation in Feb, Golden "repeated" cheating. Any info is always in "lockdown" mode with CCM's crew.
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Despite what his teammates said, only a fool would allow himself to believe McBee was the best shooting guard in America. He wasn't the best shooting guard on his own team. If you fell for that with three years of results to the contrary, you only have yourself to blame.
 
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walkenvol said:
Appears you don't remember the reports of McBee's shoulder injury at the start of the season which affected his shot. There's no reason to believe that McBee wasn't performing pre-injury as reported by his teammates.
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His shoulder wasn't injured the first game was it? He was shooting poorly pre-injury.
 
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johnnybravo said:
His team mates said he was the "best" shooting guard in the country.

HIPAA doesn't protect info on why Hall was suspended last year, or Yemi situation in Feb, Golden "repeated" cheating. Any info is always in "lockdown" mode with CCM's crew.
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I am pretty sure that his teammates weren't going to call him the "worst" in the country. It's team speak. I don't recall those words, but it wouldn't be a very good "team" if they didn't support each other.

HIPAA directly rules the Maymon situation- doesn't matter what has been donw with other players. Those other cases aren't relevant. CCM won't reveal anything unless he is allowed to.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Despite what his teammates said, only a fool would allow himself to believe McBee was the best shooting guard in America. He wasn't the best shooting guard on his own team. If you fell for that with three years of results to the contrary, you only have yourself to blame.
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As BTO would say, Like I said, we heard that the team mates said that McBee was the best shooting guard in the country, SO I wouldn't take in account everything that the current team is saying about Maymon's condition like we have been hearing.
 
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VolGee4 said:
I am pretty sure that his teammates weren't going to call him the "worst" in the country. It's team speak. I don't recall those words, but it wouldn't be a very good "team" if they didn't support each other.

HIPAA directly rules the Maymon situation- doesn't matter what has been donw with other players. Those other cases aren't relevant. CCM won't reveal anything unless he is allowed to.
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CCM doesn't reveal ANY information if he is allowed to or not.
 
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walkenvol said:
Appears you don't remember the reports of McBee's shoulder injury at the start of the season which affected his shot. There's no reason to believe that McBee wasn't performing pre-injury as reported by his teammates.
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uh there's 3 years as a below average 3 point shooter to believe he wasn't performing.
 
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johnnybravo said:
As BTO would say, Like I said, we heard that the team mates said that McBee was the best shooting guard in the country, SO I wouldn't take in account everything that the current team is saying about Maymon's condition like we have been hearing.
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That's a fine analogy except comparing someone's ability and someone's health and conditioning are apples and oranges.

We had three years of results to surmise that McBee as the best shooting guard in the country was laughable.

We have nothing definitive to suggest that Maymon isn't in the kind of shape the team says he is in. We can only assume that he will be less impactful having missed an entire season. How much so remains to be seen.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That's a fine analogy except comparing someone's ability and someone's health and conditioning are apples and oranges.

We had three years of results to surmise that McBee as the best shooting guard in the country was laughable.

We have nothing definitive to suggest that Maymon isn't in the kind of shape the team says he is in. We can only assume that he will be less impactful having missed an entire season. How much so remains to be seen.
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We have nothing definite? How bout Maymon himself? Did you read the article and do you even know what some of the players have said?
 
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johnnybravo said:
We have nothing definite? How bout Maymon himself? Did you read the article and do you even know what some of the players have said?
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I shouldn't even dignify your unwarranted, pompous attitude with a response, but here goes.

I guess I'm interpreting it differently than you. You take his comments to mean he is physically unable to go out there and do what he's used to being able to do. And by definitive, I mean we haven't seen anything in person.

I feel like he's suggesting that he is being held back by the staff/trainers and himself from a mental standpoint (trusting the knee). He feels sluggish from having not played competitively in a year. When he gets back into playing shape, I don't think pain or comfortability in the knee will be an issue. Stokes comments seem to suggest he still has the moves and ability.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If Maymon isn't 100% I do think we'll see quite a bit of 4 guard lineup. As long as he can give us a good 20 minutes that will be important IMO. Could see:

Barton 30/Thompson 10
McRae 30/ Hubbs 10
Richardson 20/ Hubbs 20
Maymon 10/ Moore 20/ Richardson 10
Stokes 30/ Maymon 10


And you still have AJ Davis if you want to go a little bigger in place of Moore depending on the matchups.
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Probably just a bias, but I'm expecting AJ to be special.
His dad was one of my favorites and he's ahead of where SR was coming out of high school.
Christopher has 5 months to build some college class strength.
He'd be higher rated if his growing spurt hadn't come so late. Caused problems with his identity. thought he was going to be a guard.
 
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