McElroy questioning UT offense

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Oldvoldad said:
Only when we are playing backups. Pretty much every college team has that issue.
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Even worse in the NFL with salary caps and a 53 man roster. Having a really good to great QB makes a difference. Being able to throw quickly and checking into the right plays is critical. Manning, Brady, Rogers etc. all threw/throw quick passes to loosen the D and take the stress off of offensive lines depleted by injury. All those guys won at least one of their MVPs in a season when their LT was out most of the season. The 3 I mentioned have 12 MVPs between them. 5-4-3, Manning, Rogers and Brady
 
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Arkansas has the 3rd worst pass defense in the SEC and they haven't played anybody with a high powered passing attack. CJH will probably open up the offense in this game and Nico will likely go crazy. Next week this time the narrative will be Tennessee played a poor secondary followed by a whole lot of people jumping on the Gator bandwagon.
 
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Bad field aside, maybe someone with better knowledge can educate me here, but I read someone earlier say Oklahoma ran a specific 3-3-5 defense to slow Nico down and and Venables dialed up some excellent things to confuse Nico, but had Oklahoma played defense against us like they did Auburn, we likely do the same thing to them Auburn did in terms of yardage. That being said, Arkansas will not field remotely the same caliber of defense tomorrow, even if they are a decent, capable defense.
 
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WilliamDuVOL said:
Bad field aside, maybe someone with better knowledge can educate me here, but I read someone earlier say Oklahoma ran a specific 3-3-5 defense to slow Nico down and and Venables dialed up some excellent things to confuse Nico, but had Oklahoma played defense against us like they did Auburn, we likely do the same thing to them Auburn did in terms of yardage. That being said, Arkansas will not field remotely the same caliber of defense tomorrow, even if they are a decent, capable defense.
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I donā€™t put too much stock in the 3-3-5 thing. Everyone basically runs some form of nickel as their base now. Back in the day though the 3-3-5 was the only defense that slowed Art Briles down. Oklahoma had a good D against us because theyā€™re talented, not because of the 3-3-5 imo
 
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Sarms58 said:
Our offensive line is probably average to a little above average when healthy. We had one OT out the entire Oklahoma game and the other missed at least half the game. So as others have pointed out, itā€™s no surprise we had trouble protecting the QB and run blocking. But Oklahoma would have been difficult for our O even if fully healthy. Despite what McEroy says, they are a top defensive team and they were designed/aligned to stop the Heupel offense. Venables is great defensive coach and very familiar with Heupelā€˜s offense.

Oklahoma ran the same basic defensive set as NC State but Oklahoma has the talent to run it right. We only had two downfield completions and the touchdown came when we shifted into a different formation to give them a new look. Josh won that battle but they adjusted and I donā€™t believe we ever again got a WR deep without a safety helping the corner.

Is the Georgia offense overrated because Kentucky held them well below their normal yards and points? Look at the last three times Georgia has played in Lexington - their offense just has problems against the defense Kentucky plays. Matchups are always important.
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We are going to have to earn it. Arkansas, Florida, Bama, Georgia. Arkansas will tell us a lot about dbā€™s. If they show up then we need only worry about Oline health. Iā€™m not sure how you stop the teenager at Bama though. That kid is a bad azz.
 
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OrangeAllDay said:
I donā€™t put too much stock in the 3-3-5 thing. Everyone basically runs some form of nickel as their base now. Back in the day though the 3-3-5 was the only defense that slowed Art Briles down. Oklahoma had a good D against us because theyā€™re talented, not because of the 3-3-5 imo
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Fair, as I said, I wanted a take from someone more educated than me. I'm a big stats guy but when it comes to formations and plays, my knowledge is relatively basic. Thank you.
 
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J C Higgins said:
Greg McElroy has been and continues to be high on the Vols this year but he's not as sure the offense is as good as he thought at one time because he isn't sure Oklahoma's defense is anything special.

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/former_alabama_qb_explains_why_hes_questioning_if_the_tennessee_vols_offense_is_actually_good_in_2024/s1_17313_40995063#:~:text=The%20reason%20behind%20McElroy's%20sudden,15%20last%20month%20in%20Norman).&text=%22How%20good%20is%20the%20Tennessee%20offense%3F
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It's legitimate but I also think Heupel hasn't opened up the playbook.

There's been no reason to.
 
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J C Higgins said:
Greg McElroy has been and continues to be high on the Vols this year but he's not as sure the offense is as good as he thought at one time because he isn't sure Oklahoma's defense is anything special.

https://www.yardbarker.com/college_football/articles/former_alabama_qb_explains_why_hes_questioning_if_the_tennessee_vols_offense_is_actually_good_in_2024/s1_17313_40995063#:~:text=The%20reason%20behind%20McElroy's%20sudden,15%20last%20month%20in%20Norman).&text=%22How%20good%20is%20the%20Tennessee%20offense%3F
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We donā€™t need no stinkin offense!

14-0
 
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Just throwing ish at the wall to see what sticks.

Starting offensive tackles out
OU is a legit defense
Heupel admitted to dialing it back.

Itā€™s foolish to judge our offense off of the OU game. Letā€™s see how we do tonight.
 
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I thought OUā€™s defense was pretty solid, especially their front seven. Went vanilla in the second half but they still shut down the run game effectively enough.
 
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The talking heads will acknowledge that weā€™re good while hoping we stumble. Unfortunately for them, they canā€™t speak it into existence.
WGWTFA.
 
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McElroy has been all over the place with his analysis of our Vols. At a point, we need to realize that he is writing or pontificating for the purpose of clicks. Clicks = Advertising $$$.


Edit: He changed his tune about the Vols when the gumps beat bow wows. Get ready for AL Promotion by Elroy leading up to the Vols - AL game. He has used the term "Not so fast, dummy" on himself.
 
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This is an ESPN Prime Time Game on ABC please keep that in Mind.
Second, analysis of this game by ESPN has this game at Vols -13.5
For viewership, ESPN/ABC has to create viewership for Advertising $$$$.
Arkansas is 3-2 and has to have a chance for there to be much viewership nationally.
It is a business, keep the predictions close, question the offense, and to run a bunch of slanted, negative ATS stats. All based on games of which circumstances were played, nowhere near the same conditions.
One ATS stat not pushed out for availability is that CJH is 8-1 after bye weeks.
Another thing is that the bye week afforded opportunities to clean up the messes, get players healed/rested, extra scouting time and a chance to look forward and self evaluate their own performance to date.
Who knows what will happen but this is a game that you take one game at a time.
Looking ahead, FL is the trap game.
 
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After we bum rush the hogs, am I supposed to start wringing my hands and thinking we havenā€™t been challenged? The gators are legit? Iā€™m not sure I have been watching the same games or maybe my football acumen has changed.
 
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Sarms58 said:
Our offensive line is probably average to a little above average when healthy. We had one OT out the entire Oklahoma game and the other missed at least half the game. So as others have pointed out, itā€™s no surprise we had trouble protecting the QB and run blocking. But Oklahoma would have been difficult for our O even if fully healthy. Despite what McEroy says, they are a top defensive team and they were designed/aligned to stop the Heupel offense. Venables is great defensive coach and very familiar with Heupelā€˜s offense.

Oklahoma ran the same basic defensive set as NC State but Oklahoma has the talent to run it right. We only had two downfield completions and the touchdown came when we shifted into a different formation to give them a new look. Josh won that battle but they adjusted and I donā€™t believe we ever again got a WR deep without a safety helping the corner.

Is the Georgia offense overrated because Kentucky held them well below their normal yards and points? Look at the last three times Georgia has played in Lexington - their offense just has problems against the defense Kentucky plays. Matchups are always important.
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UGA offense gave up either 3 or 4 INTs, a fumble, and a safety and that was just one game at Bama. Beck is no Heisman winner.
 
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The Offensive line isn't good, WRs are not getting open, and Nico can't scramble and make plays like I thought he would. Nico is a decent passer but isn't a scrambler.
 
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volbound1700 said:
The Offensive line isn't good, WRs are not getting open, and Nico can't scramble and make plays like I thought he would. Nico is a decent passer but isn't a scrambler.
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He can scramble. I question if he may be a bit banged up right now. He ran without hesitation the first 4 games
 
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