'24 MD CB Ify Obidegwu (Oregon commit)

Dobbs probably the 4th best QB we have had in the 21st century maybe?

Hendon
Clausen
Ainge
Dobbs
Bray
Can’t quibble with that list. Wins AND production are legacy benchmarks for a QB. Clausen had both but veered more towards the former than the latter imo.
 
I’ve praised this staff many times. Just because I’m not part of the cult that believes this staff can do no wrong and tells everyone to “trust X position coach’s talent evaluation” when none have shown they’re able to build a roster capable of winning an SEC championship doesn’t mean I try to point out every negative. As great as Heupel has been for us people seem to forget even his initial evaluation at the most important position on the field was terrible. If Joe doesn’t get hurt in year 1 how long would it have been until Hooker got a chance? I’m just speaking truths. Our DB and OL recruiting simply hasn’t been up to par with the rest of our position groups. We missed on Igbinosun twice, Ja’Keem Jackson, Strozier, Scott, Smith, Ify, and Turrentine still hasn’t been able to lock down a starting position in what is a very bad secondary and outside of landing Mincey and Umarov Elarbee has yet to show he can find a diamond in the rough or beat out a top tier program for a blue chip OL
This from the guy who blindly trusts recruiting stars. lolol

"Coach cult"... It's like someone from the Manson family mocking the My Three Sons.


It's just too dam rich.
 
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Some other in-state kids at CB that can take this spot🤔.

More worried about rushing the passer
 
Can’t quibble with that list. Wins AND production are legacy benchmarks for a QB. Clausen had both but veered more towards the former than the latter imo.
Clausen has the best road winning percentage of any Tennessee quarterback. He drove me crazy sometime but he was a fearless competitor. GBO
 
This from the guy who blindly trusts recruiting stars. lolol

"Coach cult"... It's like someone from the Manson family mocking the My Three Sons.


It's just too dam rich.
I’m not blindly trusting stars. I think Rickey Gibson is a much better corner than Mike Matthews, and that’s no slight towards Matthews. Gibson is just that good of a prospect. I thought Jalen Smith should’ve been a top 15-20 LB and Telander should’ve been a 4 star also. I thought Tyler Scott was better than Cristian Conyer. I could go on and on. I’m just judging by what I see. I thought he was a 5 star caliber corner long before he got his bump on 247. The dude is 6’1-6’2 with extremely long arms that mirrors WRs and plays a national schedule in HS. He’s the kind of player that could immediately make our defensive backfield better the day he steps on campus. There’s currently not another corner that we’re in actual contention for that could’ve done that. Agard is good in coverage but he’s not physically ready to play in the SEC and doesn’t have anywhere near the upside and there’s not enough film on Wilson in man coverage to know how he is
 
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I’m not blindly trusting stars. I think Rickey Gibson is a much better corner than Mike Matthews, and that’s no slight towards Matthews. Gibson is just that good of a prospect. I thought Jalen Smith should’ve been a top 15-20 LB and Telander should’ve been a 4 star also. I thought Tyler Scott was better than Cristian Conyer. I could go on and on. I’m just judging by what I see. I thought he was a 5 star caliber corner long before he got his bump on 247. The dude is 6’1-6’2 with extremely long arms that mirrors WRs and plays a national schedule in HS. He’s the kind of player that could immediately make our defensive backfield better the day he steps on campus. There’s currently not another corner that we’re in actual contention for that could’ve done that. Agard is good in coverage but he’s not physically ready to play in the SEC and doesn’t have anywhere near the upside and there’s not enough film on Wilson in man coverage to know how he is

Gibson is "much" better than Matthews?? Idk about that.

Like I said, Ify is a loss for sure, but it's not like we aren't getting good players at DB.
....we're not done there. And you DON"T KNOW. DON'T KNOW. DON'T KNOW who else we're in on heavily.
 
Dobbs probably the 4th best QB we have had in the 21st century maybe?

Hendon
Clausen
Ainge
Dobbs
Bray
Super tough to rank these guys as they were playing in different levels of disfunction within the program. Hooker is probably #1, but in light of the total mess Dobbs had to navigate it could be argued he’s #2. Bray probably had the most arm talent and Clausen was a gamer but on much better teams.
 
Gibson is "much" better than Matthews?? Idk about that.

Like I said, Ify is a loss for sure, but it's not like we aren't getting good players at DB.
....we're not done there. And you DON"T KNOW. DON'T KNOW. DON'T KNOW who else we're in on heavily.


I just don't get the teeth gnashing about this kid...Ogiddybigetybugetyboo chose to go somewhere else...so let's just move on to the next 4* DB we're in on...it's not like we're limited in our options at this point in the cycle
 
Super tough to rank these guys as they were playing in different levels of disfunction within the program. Hooker is probably #1, but in light of the total mess Dobbs had to navigate it could be argued he’s #2. Bray probably had the most arm talent and Clausen was a gamer but on much better teams.
I'd love to have seen Dobbs in this offense with Heupel coaching him. He feels like a replica of Hendon Hooker.

Hooker was more accurate as a passer while Dobbs was more dynamic as a runner, but they were very comparable and HH obviously benefitted from playing in a much more friendly system behind competent coaching.

In their Jr and Sr years...
Hooker: 6080 yds passing, 58 TDs, 5 INTs, 69% comp, 1046 yds rushing, 10 TDs

Dobbs: 5237 yds passing, 42 TDs, 17 INTs, 61% comp, 1502 yds rushing, 21 TDs
 
I’m not blindly trusting stars. I think Rickey Gibson is a much better corner than Mike Matthews, and that’s no slight towards Matthews. Gibson is just that good of a prospect.
Based on what? Star rankings and highlight videos, right? The coaches wanted Gibson and were able to get him. I hope he walks on water. But we are past the speculative value of a "prospect" now. He has to develop and produce.

I thought Jalen Smith should’ve been a top 15-20 LB and Telander should’ve been a 4 star also. I thought Tyler Scott was better than Cristian Conyer. I could go on and on. I’m just judging by what I see.
But you are too profoundly ignorant and arrogant to understand that you "see" very, very, very little of most of these kids. What do you "see" outside of star ratings and highlight videos? One of the best CBs UT has had in the past few years was Moseley. He was a HS QB. Like the rest of us, you have access to a small fraction of the information the coaches have. Unlike most of us... you believe yourself to be an expert critic.

I thought he was a 5 star caliber corner long before he got his bump on 247. The dude is 6’1-6’2 with extremely long arms that mirrors WRs and plays a national schedule in HS. He’s the kind of player that could immediately make our defensive backfield better the day he steps on campus.
You've beaten the Scott drum for a long time. Get over it. Throughout his recruitment the reports and actions of the staff suggested there was uncertainty about him. Maybe academic or character questions. Maybe something they noticed in his talent or skills. But... after meeting the recruits, putting them through personal work outs, watching every moment of their film, investigating their character/attitude/personality, looking at their academics... the staff chose to sign Conyer and either did not choose Scott or else simply did not win that battle. Maybe Scott just didn't fit their CB profile well for whatever reason.

247's eval says this: "Top-end speed remains a bit of a question mark, but has tools to work with and could blossom into a multi-year contributor in the SEC." The LAST thing UT needs is a CB without good top end speed.

Where he landed may offer a hint. He went to one of the most troubled programs in the SEC to play for a new coach who was fired just a few years ago for character issues. I happen to like Freeze and believe that people should get a chance to repent and set things right. He has been a good, not great, recruiter in the past. However Auburn at this juncture is not the destination at the top of every recruit's list.

There are just so many ways that UT was a better option than Auburn in this moment in time to suggest that he may not be at UT because the staff saw things they didn't like. Maybe they backed off when he fell in love with Auburn for whatever reason.


There’s currently not another corner that we’re in actual contention for that could’ve done that.
Pure arrogant ignorance.



Agard is good in coverage but he’s not physically ready to play in the SEC and doesn’t have anywhere near the upside and there’s not enough film on Wilson in man coverage to know how he is
Which team are you talking about now?
 
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I'd love to have seen Dobbs in this offense with Heupel coaching him. He feels like a replica of Hendon Hooker.

Hooker was more accurate as a passer while Dobbs was more dynamic as a runner, but they were very comparable and HH obviously benefitted from playing in a much more friendly system behind competent coaching.

In their Jr and Sr years...
Hooker: 6080 yds passing, 58 TDs, 5 INTs, 69% comp, 1046 yds rushing, 10 TDs

Dobbs: 5237 yds passing, 42 TDs, 17 INTs, 61% comp, 1502 yds rushing, 21 TDs
I think we win a National Championship with either if they were on 2001 team
 
Clausen has the best road winning percentage of any Tennessee quarterback. He drove me crazy sometime but he was a fearless competitor. GBO
Yeah still crazy that he beat Florida on the road twice. Obviously Travis Stephens had a KILLER game in that 2001 win.
 
I’m not blindly trusting stars. I think Rickey Gibson is a much better corner than Mike Matthews, and that’s no slight towards Matthews. Gibson is just that good of a prospect. I thought Jalen Smith should’ve been a top 15-20 LB and Telander should’ve been a 4 star also. I thought Tyler Scott was better than Cristian Conyer. I could go on and on. I’m just judging by what I see. I thought he was a 5 star caliber corner long before he got his bump on 247. The dude is 6’1-6’2 with extremely long arms that mirrors WRs and plays a national schedule in HS. He’s the kind of player that could immediately make our defensive backfield better the day he steps on campus. There’s currently not another corner that we’re in actual contention for that could’ve done that. Agard is good in coverage but he’s not physically ready to play in the SEC and doesn’t have anywhere near the upside and there’s not enough film on Wilson in man coverage to know how he is
Mike Matthews? The 24 kid out of Georgia, we're recruiting at WR; or...JORDAN Matthews?
 

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